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Descent number! That bodes well for a strong weekend. Clearly the marketing did it's job.

But your analogy of the 'boats in the rising tide' still incorrectly suggests that percentages are all equal in how they arrive at their figure. And that's mathematically not true. All I was pointing out is that a 22% increase from a film being shown on 4,324 screens took far more business to accomplish than one playing in 1,790 screens that went from a paltry $66.00 a screen to $102.00. It's not apples to apples, or even the same tide in the same ocean. To use that analogy ASM2 is in the ocean tide and Bears is in the bathroom with you running the water. Two entirely different measures.

I'm not picking on the movie for its subject matter. I'm just illustrating that Telemacho's diminished views on Spider-man's accomplishment for Tuesday receipts is not anchored on sound reasoning.

Nope. That's YOUR movie because of the emphasis you're making to percentages. I know everyone is trying to find something early in the numbers to offer a prognosis of what's to come. But I don't think there's anything definitive to make a call too far ahead just yet. There's allot of strong positive opinion out there that one normally does not see with films that get mixed reviews. I think the big Tuesday increase reflects some degree of influence from those contrasting opinions. So it's my belief there is still curiosity on the part of general audiences to decide what this movie is. I think this weekend will tell us what side swayed them the most.

That might be a fair assessment if you were comparing apples to apples here. But for instance the tenth place movie, "Bears", had a whopping 54.9% increase from Monday. Sounds impressive until you realize not much had to be done to get there. It's only playing in 1,790 theaters. On Monday it averaged a lowly $66.00 per theater. On Tuesday it averaged $102.00. I hate to tell you this but it didn't take too many pre-school birthday parties to reach that number. As Billy Preston said, "Nothing from nothing leaves nothing." Spider-man sits in 4,324 theaters. It's going to be take allot more effort to move that percentage dial on that many theaters. Even the second place movie, TOW, was more than three times behind ASM2 playing in 3,238 theaters. So 22% for a movie playing in this many theaters is quite good. Give me Spider-man's $1,443.00 per theater average. It spends better than your Bear's 54.9 % debacle.

Just for you Baumer. Miracles do happen... http://youtu.be/gdhmsHX7HTc

When I think of "mixed" I see a common agreement in the middle where the differences vary only in a small way to measure okay or bad. With this film there is a huge margin between those who love it and those who don't. So I don't think the general audience has determined where they stand on that yet. That's why I say there is still a curiosity factor in play. No consensus has been reached. I think after this weekend, we'll know better how the general audience plays to those opinions. Tuesday's number definitely showed an interest that demonstrates people are deciding for themselves by going in to find out what the talk is all about. So this weekend will tell us if there are still a good portion of people making that trek for themselves along with those who are coming back for multiple viewings. Should be very interesting.

That report states ASM2 has grossed north of $420 million worldwide already. BOM needs to do some serious updates on their foreign numbers. No where close to that over there.

I think the Tuesday number spoke well of what people must be hearing that stretches far beyond just a discounted ticket. Since we're comparing with Cap, he only enjoyed a 12% bump that first Tuesday. Spider-man tends to be more of a family friendly character, so I think we could see better (or equally as good) numbers than Cap for that second weekend, especially given that some people stayed away opening weekend. WOM has been a tough one to gauge because it's a polarizing movie. But it seems to favor Spider-man on the good more than the bad. So the curiosity factor is still in play for those who didn't see it, while the ones who loved it are going back. I don't expect the Wednesday number to be anything more than a isolated retraction based on elevated business from yesterday. Now if the drop is relatively low, this could mark a new trend worthy of being looked at. But either way, I think the second weekend is still in play. I don't believe the general public has fully weighed in given the 'love it' or 'hate it 'reviews. So a overall consensus is still in play.

I think it goes without saying that events from this past film and the upcoming Avengers sequel will likely take us straight into the registration act storyline for Cap 3. Crossbones and Bucky will be major players...

That's very good for Spidey. I wouldn't count him down and out just yet. That 2nd weekend tally though will really give us a good idea of where the general audience stands.

Winter Soldier fell 73% it's first Monday and is doing very well.

I don't see any of China's numbers figured into the overseas gross on BOM on the international breakdown.

Looks like ASM2 is doing exceptionally well in the new markets opening overseas. Early estimates seem to think it's foreign tally will pass $250 million after this weekend and that's before China has a chance to weigh in. Sounds like the numbers may be descent for this film for the moment. I think week two will mean EVERYTHING for this movie with regards to whether audiences embraced it. That's what we don't know. I've heard from allot different sources at work and just being out and about that they liked this movie. Even our waitress today at a restaurant said she saw it and really liked it. So the movie is being talked about almost like it's a big film opening. So I'm not getting any impression the general audience is in sync with the critics at this moment.

I'm not surprised by that number. My theater at a 8 PM showing had roughly 35 people in it and that screening holds 325. Had my pick of quality seats 2 minutes before the house lights went down. Glad I stuck with my $85 million prediction. I'm also glad I saw it too. Completely surprised by how good it was. I hope more people feel that way and WOM from the general audience is more positive than the critics. But the truth is this is probably too early a release after the last one. Less than two years doesn't give the public much time to miss Spidey.

I saw this last night at a 8 PM showing. First let me say this - I went to get tickets at 6:30. Bought two. I asked if there was a line I needed to get in and the girl said, " Well actually your tickets only makes 23 sold for this show. We need over 300 more to fill it up. I think your safe to come back." So I ended up walking into the theater literally with two minutes to go and had my pick of seats. If there were thirty-five people in the whole theater, I would be surprised. Now the movie - I have to say I was completely surprised. I was so totally sold on this being a suck-fest, I was completely taken back to find a movie that was enjoyable on levels I had not experienced in a Spider-man film. Halfway through the movie, I was thinking, "Where is this terrible movie everyone cringed over?" I fully expected a Batman & Robin experience. I got nothing of the kind. Without giving away any specific spoilers let me say what I believe Marc Webb was attempting here. What is buried in Spider-man 2 is a love story about Peter and Gwen coupled with a cautionary tale about the dangers that comes from living this fantastic life as Spider-man. This is truly the first film where I really, truly see Spider-man. I felt like I was really looking at him. With only a few exceptions in the beginning, I felt like I was truly looking at my childhood hero. His personality was spot on. His costume, mask ( and especially his eyes) - perfect. His swinging through town was just incredible. Marc Webb essentially puts you on his shoulder and gives you one heck of a ride as you see exactly what Spider-man sees. And when the camera pulls back, you see Spider-man in all his comic-book glory making the poses you always wanted to see. It's absolutely the comic book come to life - in a very good way. But I also understood where the disconnect with critics and some of the audience may lie.It's a story about the fantastic life of Spider-man. It's not about pitting one fantastic villain against our hero. Thematically it's a story about how Parker tries to find meaning in being this fantastic hero (who brings miracles and hope to the public in daily doses) in contrast to this insecure kid who doesn't understand why his parents abandoned him, which feeds his conflict with walking away from Gwen. Gwen is the love of his life and you absolutely believe it and feel it. Their chemistry is truly the movie on every level. The villains are really intended to represent the uncertainty that faces Spider-man every day (like the crime element and inherent dangers a police officer might face). It also serves as a reminder that no matter how incredibly strong and swift Spider-man is, he can't be that hero to everyone. Spider-man's intentions can be misunderstood as well. It's a far more intriguing story than what I expected. What ultimately may be the artistic pitfall of this film, is that Marc Webb doesn't just want you to feel what its like to swing as Spider-man, he wants you to truly feel the conflict and heartache of being Spider-man. And he does that to great effect. And that right there may be what leaves you feeling conflicted as you leave the theater. You feel the excitement and exhilaration of being Spider-man. But you also feel the heavy emotional price in that role as well. It's not a garbage film at all. It's a good movie, done very well. And it's VERY coherent in it's purpose. But not everyone may see that. If you let the film come to you on it's own terms, it plays out beautifully. If you're looking for a color-by-the-numbers good vs bad installment, you may get lost. Go see it. I highly recommend it. Just go in with no expectations to an a-typical superhero structure and let the story unfold. I think you'll like it. 8/10

Deadline seems to feel the movie is not getting depressed numbers. Is there really reason to worry yet or is this early concern overshooting the mark? Here's the article... http://www.deadline.com/2014/04/amazing-spider-man-2-box-office-international-launch/

Where are the overseas numbers for Amazing Spiderman 2? Most of what I've read suggest the box office while good is nothing to feel insired about for Sony. Mix that with the luke warm reviews, this could lower results when the movie hits stateside.

Grudge Match only $3.9 mill for Christmas? Ouch...

Adjusted for inflation, it appears MOS will finish behind Superman II for ticket sales domestically. Superman the movie and Superman II remain the top box office draws for this character in America.

If you adjust the Superman Returns domestic gross for inflation where does that place it? This film seems to be getting the same business as that film. It's definitely the overseas markets that appears to be saving it this time. If I were WB, I would consider pulling back on so much marketing costs if that number is going to be that predictable.

I agree with this. The NBA most likely ate into yesterday's receipts for MOS. But then again Monsters opens today. The question becomes, 'Did MOS make a big enough impression to bring the repeat business plus more from WOM? Or was it simply last week's talk at the theaters and people are ready to move on to Monsters?' That question gets answered this weekend. It's first post weekend performance was unremarkable. But as we saw with IM3, week days do not always bare out on what happens for the weekends. We'll see if that twist holds true for MOS. I would think this weekend is it's biggest hurdle to date. My gut tells me MOS will need considerable help from the foreign markets to get in the black.

I'm curious to see overseas numbers

Plus not everyone is a chronic Walmart shopper. So many never heard about that promotion anyway. What Walmart sold or didn't sell really can't be fairly used to gauge universal interest in the film. So whether they sold them all publicly, purposely held some back for employees, or wallpapered their bathrooms, it doesn't really matter. They came to the "counter" as a buying customer and there you go. The public showed up strong without their help at midnight anyway. So demand for Man of Steel is there.

That's a good point. A purchase is a purchase, whether it's a church or a company. I purchased IMAX tickets for Saturday. If I don't make it, they should still count. The fact that Walmart tried to spin a profit on theirs doesn't change that rule. Okay, from that perspective, I feel better about it. It makes sense. It all counts.