RyneOh1040
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I'm a huge fan of the series but I really think the critics got this right. It's the most bloated film by far and I think the script is the weakest of the series (yes, weaker than Last Stand). That being said, it's like the Half-Blood Prince of the saga for me as overall it's one of if not my least favorite overall but has some of the best moments to date (Last 15 minutes are really something).
The series needs to really play it smart with whatever the next entry is or I could see them doing a complete reboot in the next 5-7 years (especially with Jackman out and what I'm sure will be a MUCH higher salary from Lawrence).
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Even though the numbers for Alice are terrible, if it still manages 450-500 million WW (seems doable) won't this still turn some kind of a profit for Disney? I can't imagine marketing and back end deals getting this to where it needed to net 500 to see the green.
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1 hour ago, pieman said:
So glad that Civil War is such a massive disappointment. I hope it's a sign that people are getting sick of this superhero crap; and yes I hated BVS as well. Civil War was crap and it's failure at the box office reflects that.
yeah a film that is easily going to crack a billion WW will def. get studios to stop making them lmao.
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I think PP3 will 100% drop, PP2 had a perfect storm surrounding its release. But I honestly think a lot of people enjoyed the sequel, enough so that they're not quite burnt out on the concept yet. The range seems like 100-120 to me.
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1 hour ago, zenithtim said:
Where did you get the idea that it got an "incredible reception" at Cannes? Its reception there was middling at best.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/jodie-fosters-money-monster-cannes-893260
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So pumped to see The Nice Guys tomorrow been getting hype for it for weeks now. Caught Money Monster this week and honestly thought it was kind of a snooze fest. Everything in it was just paint by numbers to me and I'm confused why it got such incredible reception out of Cannes. Wasn't terrible or anything but as middle of the road as it gets.
My favorite film of the year (along with Cap) so far is Hello My Name Is Doris. Caught a matinee last weekend and absolutely LOVED it.
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11 hours ago, Jay Hollywood said:
The first maze runner is favorite YA dystopian movie after Catching Fire.
Same. Really a gem of a movie.
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40 minutes ago, jandrew said:
Where?
And I have not heard of Easter monday either.
In the atrocity that is Gaffney, SC
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I have no bias towards this movie at all, I just know that in the south (where Easter is a huge deal) no one would know what the hell you're talking about if you mentioned 'Easter Monday'. It's just not a real world thing.
I don't think it having a solid drop has as much to do with it being the day after a religious holiday as much as it does with a huge majority of public schools being on Spring Break. Films always have lighter drops on dailies the first week of April, but it's not because Easter was the weekend before, lol. I went to a private Christian college in Nashville and we never got the Monday after Easter out, but I know that's a very limited experience and could see some private schools making it a holiday.
Bottom line it's a one day hold and there's only so much you can analyze. But it having a good drop today and maybe staying even tomorrow has way less to do with 'Easter Monday' and way more to do with the fact that it's a new film with a gigantic opening and a lot of IMAX screens. Historically they don't increase much on their first Tuesday regardless of release date.
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It's way more likely that this has to do with Spring Break more than anything. This week and next week are when a good majority of public schools have it.
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1 hour ago, Hatebox said:
Wikipedia tells me that Americans don't get Easter Monday off.
I've lived in either South Carolina or Tennessee (the Bible Belt) my entire life and have never even heard of 'Easter Monday'. Good Friday, sure, but I don't and have never known a single business or office to close on the Monday following Easter so I don't think we can view this as a holiday drop unless it's strictly related to the North/West/Midwest which wouldn't make sense.
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Gonna stan here for a minute and just say I'm glad HP kept the WB record. IT LIVES.
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Really great weekend all things considered. Still a monster number. I didn't like the film very much at all but I tip my hat to a good performance when I see it.
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Obviously the GA interest is there. And it's huge. The small town in SC I saw this in usually has about 20-30 people in a theater on a Saturday at noon. There was easily 150.
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Just got back from my showing. I guess now we know that even with $250 million dollars it is possible to buy only wasted potential.
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Yeah if that estimate holds that is a POINT 7% drop for Zootopia from last friday. Jesus!
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Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't that be the exact same Friday as LAST week for Zootopia. What a monster.
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1. Rth is a god amongst men, as always. 2. Fantastic number.
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Massive $82M FRI (incl THU pre-shows) for #BatmanvsSuperman
. Ties JurassicWorld for #4 opening day of all-time. #BoxOffice
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This thread is nuts. Seriously if we can't celebrate a movie opening to 165+ we've truly lost our perspective, I don't care what the film is. The ONLY film I think I would feel 'disappointed' in with that kind of opening would be the next episode of Star Wars. Everyone keeps throwing out that this is the two most popular DC characters (which of course is true) but look at the constant uphill battle it's faced. Coming off the Nolan trilogy, which the GA sees as the quintessential idea of Batman, a lukewarm reception to MOS and now VERY tepid reviews, the fact that it still opened above tracking is great. (I saw someone say tracking was 178 a few threads ago, I have never seen that number. Just last week Hollywood Reporter said tracking was 150).
I also don't understand the argument that this is DC's answer to Avengers. That's LITERALLY what the concept of the Justice League is and Marvel had years of solo films to craft that. It was a long process that took a lot of patience and really paid off. This is DC's first real shot (you could argue second with MOS) at building their universe. And if you want to argue that the GA doesn't really know The Flash, Cyborg, and Aquaman I'd say the SAME amount of people cared about Deadpool before it's release. It's all about good marketing, awareness and in the end, delivering quality wise. Then people care. I think everyone just expected WB to pull a rabbit out of their hat and with ONE film be competing with Marvel at the height of it's brand. That idea is way more nuts to me than BvS not having a 200 OW.
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lololololol at anyone bashing this number. the devil is a lie in this forum sometimes.
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Even with Twitter and various social media sites affecting the speed at which WOM travels, I think this is essentially bulletproof for OW. Nothing will stop people from having interest in this the first three days, it's just that big of a draw with that much scope in terms of fanbase (ranging from fanboy to causal). I think 160 is the floor with somewhere around 190 being the ceiling.
I think the real fallout (if it really is a terrible film) will obviously be in the multiplier and the way the rest of the DC universe is perceived from here on out, and whether the general public starts seeing it as a cheap version of whatever Marvel's releasing. Any who should be a fun weekend. I'm catching it tomorrow and hoping I don't hate it.
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27 minutes ago, Kung Fu Panda Tree said:
well yeah, obviously Jennifer Lawrence is the reason it made that money. no one is denying that she has star power. She's one of the biggest actors on the planet at the moment.
you must have come in late on this one, that's the entire point of the original post you quoted, which as been a big majority of the discussion in this thread.
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also, yaaaaaaaaas for Cloverfield, that sub 50% drop is what I wanted to see. I would love nothing more than getting a new addition to the series based in this universe every 4-5 years.
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MEH-MORIAL DAY WEEKEND BOX OFFICE | Abandon all hope, the box office is dead. 3 day weekend #s X-Men 65M, Alice 28.1M, Angry Birds 18.7M, Civil War 15.1M, Neighbors 9.1M. Bad openings, horrible holdovers.
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What an absolute shit show of a weekend.
I DO think there are some reasons why the X-Men opening makes more sense than some of us are willing to believe. Cast wise, this is literally a sequel to First Class (and is a continuation of that storyline). I also think DoFP truly may have been the ceiling for the franchise, in the same way that Avengers will be the ceiling for MCU. It had great reviews and was truly what the franchise had been building up to for 7+ films. It was the outlier, not the standard.
Again, I'm not saying the weekend isn't somewhat disappointing. But we've been spoiled by 100+ openers over the past two years and everything feels like a let down when it doesn't hit those marks. Even thinks that probably never had a chance of doing so.