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Yeah, it's called Hollywood.

Very glad about Ben-Hur's inclusion. Wrath of Khan is fine to make it but I'd honestly just say Motion Picture should be given the spot.

Good with both of those scores, Finding Nemo is probably my favorite Pixae score but Wall-E is very strong too.

People need to realize a few things from both sides. 1.Competition doesn't necessarily mean something's going to do poorly, but it does mean the audience will need to like the film enough to choose it over the competition. 2.Some people like going to the movies for the sake of it and will pick what seems like the best option at the time for what they like. If Home and Blart are the only options for a family wanting to see a movie and they've already seen Home and they're going to a movie then they'll go see Blart. 3.Theres a reason films drop lightly when nothing big released that reason, and there's a reason films drop hard when there's a big blockbuster released or when a popular movies that's direct competition comes out. 4.No Competition doesn't necessarily mean success, but it can make it easier to be more successful than the film would have been. An audience will be more willing to give an on the fence movie a chance if there's nothing else out that they haven't seen. No Good Deed (or something like that) opened to over 20m last September when there had been no real wide releases for a few weeks. It wouldn't have made that money had it been in a more competitive market. If Blart or Home still manage decent drops next week against the Avengers then you can say they hit a decent chord, but it's more likely both (especially Blart) have fairly substantial drop offs.

Elfman's superhero scores are probably the only ones deserving to make it, that and William's Superman score.

It's not a terrible score, in fact its one of Zimmers good ones, but zimmer as a whole is very overrated. It has nothing to do with me not liking the movie, there's a few films I didn't like at all the made my list.

Pan's Labyrinth making the list more than makes up for The Dark Knight Rises, Thor, and HTTYD2 making an unnecessary appearance. Don't get me wrong I like httyd2s score but it's very copy and paste from the first, and given hat I assume that made it too it doesn't deserve two spots. Zimmer is one of the most overrated composers out there, he has some great scores, but people seem to think everything he makes is some masterwork when most of its loud thumping, non-melodious, noise.

What the heck is Star Trek Into Darkness and Angels and Demons doing on here?

Why are you considering this a disappointment? Avengers 1 opened in 70% of its markets compared to 2 opening only on 55% and there's bad exchange rates as of right now which is going to deflate the numbers from showing the real admissions in the European countries. This is a great number.

I completely forgot to put Monoke on my list, I'm glad it made it.

Sunset Boulevard and Bridge on the River Kwai are some great inclusions. I like Her, it's a strong score and I'm good with it making the list, I didn't put it on mine, but it's a good inclusion. The rest are fairly meh.

I'd disagree with what you said about those films. Only Memento and The Dark Knight are on par with Children of Men, Azkaban, and Gravity. Inarritu is probably a bad example, he isn't very comparable and is a very different kind of director. I shouldn't have brought him up. Del Torro's early works are better than anything Nolan made besides Memento and the Dark Knight (Although I'd say Pan's Labyrinth and Devil's Backbone are both of them fairly easily), when he went Hollywood I'll agree he's worse than Nolan. PTA and Fincher are both easily better filmmakers than Nolan, I forgot to mention Fincher (there were quite a few I did forget to mention that were around Nolan's level, I was just giving a summation). Nolan is a really good (and consistent) director, don't get me wrong, but he's not the second coming that everyone makes him out to be, far from it actually. Also, just because Nolan has had fairly good consistency lately, it doesn't make him one of the greats, it doesn't mean he'll never be one of the greats, but he has to truly earn it first and he hasn't, none of these directors that we are talking about truly have (Linklater and Fincher are worth discussing if they're some of the greats or not. They're directors that this thread should be about, not Nolan). This thread will be much more interesting in ten years or so when Nolan has more to show for than a couple of high concept thrillers, a batman trilogy, and a space epic that received polarizing reception. I'll give you Great Expectations, but Y Tu Mama Tambien and Little Princess are solid films and easily better than The Dark Knight Rises, and I'd say better than Insomnia and The Prestige (I have no idea how people are so in love with this) as well. I'd also say they're nearly on par with Inception. Besides, Nolan's worst is probably better than Spielberg's for example, but Nolan isn't close to being on the level Spielberg is yet (one of the greats), and neither is Cuaron. You're acting like all Nolan films are masterpieces, they're not, that's fanboyism talking (the only director that I listed that I think is at the stage to discuss if he's one of the greats or not is Linklater) I'll disagree with you heavily on Pan's Labyrinth. It's a masterpiece. But I'll give you modern Del Torro that directs Pacific Rim, Blade 2, and Hellboy is not better than Nolan, old Del Torro that directed spanish masterpieces like Pan's Labyrinth and Devil's Backbone definitely is. I was talking about Linklater being one of the greats before Boyhood was released, before I had seen it, and before I had even known about it. His Before Trilogy ranks within my top 25 movies of all time, and I'd definitely say Boyhood will end up there too. Sure he had a bit of a slump after Before Sunset, but all directors do.

The Fountain has a pretty good score, definitely much more deserving than the former two.

So we're going to be overloaded with comic book soundtracks... And shame Finding Nemo missed out, its score is impeccably beautiful. None of the Dark Knight batman scores are any good, they're a typical score that Zimmer farts out in his sleep. Captain America's soundtrack is one of the better MCU scores, but that's really not saying much. I feel like people let how much they liked the movie and what franchises they're fanboys of blind them on how they rank things.

Cuaron = Gravity, Children of Men, Prisoner of Azkaban, and Y Tu Mama Tambien. All of those are stronger films than anthing Nolan has made. Now, I wouldn't list Cuaron among one of the greats either. Innaritu is a much better director than Nolan, he just doesn't do mainstream movies. Del Torro's newer movies aren't as strong as his older ones but Pan's Labyrinth and Devil's Backbone are both much stronger than anything Nolan has made. He's also not one of the greats, but I could see him in the future being considered one of the great Horror film makers. Linklater is fantastic, he has Boyhood, the Before trilogy, Dazed and Confused, School of Rock, etc. He is very diverse and one of the strongest and most original filmmakers working today. Making popular films doesn't make a filmmaker one of the greats, it helps if its a massive hit. But Nolan's rabid fanbase are mostly there because of the Dark Knight trilogy, and a rabid fanbase doesn't make a filmmaker great. Twilight and 50 Shades of Grey have rabid fanbases, but it doesn't make them great. Is Nolan a pop culture icon? Sure. Can he currently be considered one of the greats on par with Spielberg, Scorsese, and Kubrick? Not in hell's chance right now. Also, ask the average non-cinephile who Orson Welles, Hitchcock, or John Ford are and they probably won't be able to answer. Doesn't mean theyre not part of the greats.

Better young and modern filmmakers than Nolan Cuaron, Linklater, Innaritu, Jonze, PTA and Wes Anderson, Docter, Coens, Del Torro, and the list goes on. Memento and The Dark Knight are strong films, and the rest of he makes solid movies. But he isn't one of the greats as of right now. The Dark Knight Trilogy and Inception will go down as classics because of how big they were as hits, but a lot of that Dark Knight credit in box office comes from Ledger and the fact its about batman. Nolan wouldn't have the legion of Internet fanboys proclaiming him as the next coming if it weren't for the fact he made a serious portrayal of Batman.

1.Inside Out 2.Star Wars: The Force Awakens 3.The Hateful Eight 4.Pitch Perfect 2 5.Mad Max: Fury Road 6.Spy 7.Pixels 8.Jurassic World 9.Bridge of Spies 10.The Peanuts

True, if you look at what was first and most likely second the last few years the more innovative, inspired, and original film lost out. 2014: 1 Birdman, 2 Boyhood 2013: 1 12YAS, 2 Gravity 2012: 1 Argo. 2 Life of Pi 2011: Exception in that everything was equally bland 2010: 1 Kings Speech, 2 The Social Network

Here is my list Raiders of the Lost Ark (Spielberg, 1981) Finding Nemo (Stanton, 2003) Once Upon a Time in the West (Leone, 1968) The Lord of the Rings: Return of the King (Jackson, 2003), The Shawshank Redemption (Darabont, 1994) Pan's Labyrinth (Del Torro, 2006) Lawrence of Arabia (Lean, 1962) Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind (Gondry, 2004) Monty Python and The Holy Grail (Gilliam and Jones, 1975) The Wizard of Oz (1939) Pulp Fiction (Tarantino, 1994) Boyhood (Linklater, 2014) Casablanca (Curtiz, 1942) Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941) Vertigo (Hitchcock, 1958) 12 Angry Men (Lumet, 1957) It's a Wonderful Life (Capra, 1946) The Big Lebowski (Coen Bros, 1998) Spirited Away (Miyazaki, 2002) 2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968) The Godfather (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972) The Great Dictator (Chaplin, 1940) The Empire Strikes Back (Kershner, 1980) Seven Samurai (Karusawa, 1954) Children of Men (Cuaron, 2006) Goodfellas (Scorsese, 1990) The Lion King (Minkoff and Allers, 1994) The Searchers (Ford, 1956) The Truman Show (Weir, 1998) Forrest Gump (Zemeckis, 1994) The Princess Bride (Reiner, 1987) Gladiator (Ridley Scott, 2000) Airplane! (Abrahams and Zucker Bros, 1980) Harvey (Koster, 1950) Grave of Fireflies (Takahata, 1988) Goldfinger (Hamilton, 1964) Planet of the Apes (Schaffner, 1968) Ghostbusters (Reitman, 1984) King Kong (1933) Glengarry Glenn Ross (Foley, 1992) Unforgiven (Eastwood, 1992) Life of Pi (Ang Lee, 2012) One Flew Over a Cuckoo's Nest (Forman, 1975) Platoon (Stone, 1986) The Terminator (Cameron, 1984) Star Trek 2: Wrath of Khan (Meyer, 1982) Up (Docter and Peterson, 2009) Dawn of the Dead (Romero, 1978) The Social Network (Fincher, 2010) Boogie Nights (PTA, 1997) City of God (Meirellis and Lund, 2002) A Streetcar Named Desire (Kazan, 1951) South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut (Trey Parker, 1999) The Evil Dead (Raimi, 1981) Donnie Darko (Kelli, 2001) Animal House (Landis, 1978) The Sound of Music (Wise, 1965) Anatomy of Murder (Bass and Preminger, 1959) Patton (Schaffner, 1970) Beetlejuice (Burton, 1988) Halloween (Carpenter, 1978) Good Will Hunting (Sant, 1997) Invasion of the Body Snatchers (Siegel, 1956) Guardians of the Galaxy (Gunn, 2014) Beauty and the Beast (Wise and Trousdale, 1991) Singin' in the Rain (Donen and Kelly, 1952) Rosemary's Baby (Polanski, 1968) The Last of the Mohicans (Mann, 1992) The French Connection (Friedkin, 1971) The Matrix (Wachowskis, 1999) To Kill a Mockingbird (Mulligan, 1962) The Great Escape (Sturges, 1963) The Muppet Movie (Frawley, 1979) Groundhog Day (Ramis, 1993) Silence of the Lambs (Demme, 1991) Braveheart (Gibson, 1995) The Nightmare Before Christmas (Selick, 1993) Young Frankenstein (Mel Brooks, 1974) Rain Man (Levinson, 1988) Mean Girls (Waters, 2004) Tangled (Greno and Howard, 2010) Her (Jonze, 2013) Amadeus (Forman, 1984) In the Heat of the Night (Jewinson, 1967) The Incredibles (Bird, 2004) Total Recall (Verhoeven, 1990) The Grand Budapest Hotel (Wes Anderson, 2014) Breakfast at Tiffany's (Edwards, 1961) Henry V (Olivier, 1944) Apollo 13 (Howard, 1995) Master and Commander (Weir, 2003) The Blair Witch Project (Sanchez and Myrick, 1999) Dances with Wolves (Costner, 1990) Memento (Nolan, 2000) Men in Black (Sonnenfeld, 1997) Requiem for a Dream (Aronofsky, 2000) Aladdin (Clements and Musker, 1992) Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl (Verbinski, 2003) Nosferatu the Vampyre (Herzog, 1979) Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2 (2011)

I think what'd be much more interesting than Elektra or Bullseye (maybe have them as part of the scene) but incorporate the Punisher into it, and if he's received well give him his own spin-off TV show. The Punisher as a major anti-hero/villain/rival would be great foil to Daredevil because they're characters with identical interests and similar ideals about how to deal with them (being a vigilante) but completely opposite on the morality scale and ideals of how to be a vigilante (Death vs. Justice). Seeing Daredevil arrive at a scene only to see that the Punisher had killed the criminals he was after could be a cool introduction to the season with neither of them. Seeing them forced in a situation where they have to work together to eliminate the crime but at the same time fighting against each other in the means they'll eliminate the crime.

Transformers meets TMMT meets Bay Rangers?

Saying the best and worst LOTR movie is like fighting over which scene in the movie you liked the best.

Stupid decisions are what get characters killed in Game of Thrones. Dany's screwed up by 1.Locking two of her dragons up and causing them to hate her guts, 2.Making one of the dumbest decisions in the show since Robb Stark deciding to trust Walder Frey after he had already given him the middle finger by executing the former slave in front of an angry mob of former slaves calling for mercy. This will all end up costing Dany Littlefinger has made the dumb decision of taking Sansa Stark under his wing. I believe that decision is going to cost him. We'll see what more stupid decisions are made, they always lead to a characters downfalls or at least a very bad pickle.

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1.Inside Out 2.Star Wars: The Force Awakens 3.Mad Max: Fury Road 4.Pitch Perfect 2 5.Tomorrowland 6.The Hateful Eight 7.Bridge of Spies 8.Pixels 9.Spy 10.Jurassic World