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  1. Oz opened in March, not June, and it opened during a period of spring holidays. I am not sure how valid the comparison would be. The most accurate comparison is Snow White and the Huntsman. That movie dropped 59% on its second weekend, so Maleficent did way better (52%). Comparison to other high-profile summer movies seems relevant as well.
  2. Really?? Are you serious? Do you really want a list of films that opened higher than DOFP, TASM 2 and Godzilla but still had smaller drops. Why are you so stubbornly insistent? Avengers, Iron Man 3, The Dark Knight, Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest, Iron Man 2, Shrek the Third, Alice in Wonderland, Spider-Man, Toy Story 3, Star Wars: Episode 3, Shrek 2 All opened to more than $100M and fell less than 60% on their second weekend (some of them actually fell less than 50%). Educate yourself: http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/smallestdrops.htm?page=DROP3000&sort=opengross&order=DESC&p=.htm
  3. Second weekends DOFP: $32.6M Godzilla: $30.9M TASM 2: $35.5M Maleficent: $33.8M (very impressive since it opened more than $20M below all 3 of them)
  4. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=allyouneediskill.htm
  5. I agree with all of them except maybe #4. I don't think it's the right perspective because it is also a sequel to The Last Stand, which DOFp will not out-gross in North America. (the list I made only takes the NA BO into account, otherwise for example EOT was very impressive in China)
  6. $178M budget, let alone marketing, and it opened to $29M (at best). Of course it tanked. Original or not, it's true, Godzilla had its third >50% drop in a row. I agree TFIOS will have a huge drop, but I can't see EoT dropping less than 50%, no matter how good the film is. This genre of movies always fall more than 50%. I made the names based on their box-office performance. The movie may be shit (dunno, I haven't seen it), but dropping only 51% is impressive since most high-profile films this summer dropped by more than 60%. It is also a smaller drop than SWATH (-59%). With the competition it had, it is admittedly an impressive hold.
  7. 'The Fall in Our Stars' #1, 'Magnificent' #2, 'Edge of Tanking' #3, 'X-Men is in the Past' #4, 'Dead in a Million Ways' #5, 'Dropzilla' #6
  8. Truth is not relative. I presented an argument that the yen-to-usd exchange rate is irrelevant when we compare movies' grosses within Japan. I can not see any significant causal link between the two. If you provide a causal link between the two (e.g. that a change in exchange rate causes a change in the gross in yen), I'd be interested to listen. You are just saying: "if more people believe it, then that is the truth". So I guess the Earth was flat until people started believing it was spherical, at which point it changed shape. No matter how many people believe something wrong, you should never stop supporting what is true/accurate if you are sure about it. The existence of killers, rapers, dictators etc is not a reason to lose your faith in humanity. You should lose it when you see the rest of the people supporting them instead of condemning them. Similarly, when someone is not aware of the truth, that can be fixed. But being aware and refusing to accept it, now that's a problem.
  9. You get to a point where people don't even want to accept the truth and that is when you lose your faith in humanity.
  10. You know who normal people are? It's people who know the truth. And here is one truth you might wanna know. Box Office Mojo only reports a record if it has been achieved in the local curency. Want some proof? Finding Nemo earned $102M in Japan. BOM wrote a report on Toy Story 3 grossing $1B WW and it said that, after having grossed $115M in Japan, TS3 is the second highest-grossing US animated film, because, in yen, it had grossed less than Finding Nemo. So the next time you decide what normal is and what isn't, do some research. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=2904&p=.htm Having said that, mark my words: Box Office Mojo will never report Frozen as the highest-grossing film in Japan, unless it surpasses Spirited Away in yen.
  11. Since the Japan run will most likely be interrupted on July 16, my expectations are now lowered. HP7:P2 (WW) and Spirited Away (in Japan) can not be surpassed. However, $900M ONA and $1.3B WW are still within reach.
  12. Weekday numbers were underestimated slightly. 1.60m Mon 0.60m Tue 1.20m Wed Estimate: $3.4M Actual is $3.6M: ScreenDaily reports $837.2M by Wednesday Since Deadline reported that Disney updated its as-of-Sunday total from $205.9M to $207.5M, then the total on BOM should go from $832M to $833.6M. This means that the movie made 837.2 - 833.6 = $3.6M on these 3 days. So the weekend drop might not be as big as the estimated weekday drops previously suggested. http://www.screendaily.com/box-office/edge-of-tomorrow-climbs-to-33m/5072842.article?blocktitle=INTERNATIONAL-BOX-OFFICE-NEWS&contentID=40079
  13. A 10% decrease from weekend 11 (to 630M yen) would be OK for me, but not any lower than that.
  14. I think the drop may be more than 10% this weekend. But even -15% would be less than a 10% drop from weekend 11. However, that Wednesday number is very low,
  15. I disagree with Hellbuster. What if suddenly the exchange rate changes abruptly? Why should that be a reason for us to claim that a movie surpassed another one? Exchange rates don't reflect any change in moviegoing activity within the country. They are a factor that is weighed into the equation depsite being irrelevant to any of comparisons that we are trying to make. Obviously, for international comparisons the situation is different, there must be a standard to which all the others are compared, but choosing the dollar is very arbitrary (as would be if we chose any other currency). The main problem is that there can be ridiculously huge variation in exchange rates, but I guess that's just one of many problems that cannot be resolved, unless someone comes up with a golden standard that everything else is compared to.
  16. There is no such thing as a democratic country, nowhere in the world. But I do agree that some are less democratic than others.
  17. I have no words to describe my disappointment/annoyance/anger/disbelief for this decision. I don't wanna say that I hope it's not true, but I just wonder who on Earth would make that decision and for what reason. And why? Why? I know that "why?" is the most likely question that won't have an answer but it is the only one that comes to mind at the moment.
  18. More like Bay's Transformers 7.0 or, in other words, Bay's Transformers I'm-still-making-money-so-I-don't-care-how-bad-these-movies-are. (no offense to EVA, I have no idea what it is. Just making a subtle comment on the Transformers franchise)
  19. Deadline says $7.5M wknd and $207.5M total. http://www.deadline.com/2014/06/international-box-office-maleficent-awakens-100m-overseas-bow-x-men-adds-95-6m-edge-of-tomorrow-cruises-to-20m-in-select-markets-a-million-ways-to-die-in-the-west-holsters-10/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter ONA total should be $833.6M - only $66.4M left to reach $900M. HP7:P2 is still within reach
  20. Well, if the price is so unaffordably high, in a way, that is good for the box office sales.
  21. I don't know if there are any other holidays in June, but assuming there aren't, I think we can finally expect that Frozen will start declining at a steady pace from now on (until July 16). Am I right?
  22. What everyone is forgetting is that the DVD release won't cause such an abrupt fall in earnings as it did in NA. With $280M by July 16, I still think there are chances it gets to $315M. Let's hope the dollar falls a bit so that Frozen can at least surpass HP7:P2 worlwide (in dollars), even if it doesn't surpass SA in Japan (in yen).
  23. If the gross is higher, the fact that it sold more admissions (by having a lower average ticket price) just makes it even more impressive.
  24. I think I know what happened with this week's estimate. The numbchuck who was supposed to make a projection for Sunday's gross didn't realise that Sunday is a discount day. So they just added a bit to Saturday's gross: 2.75 + 0.3 = 3.05M and added this Sunday number to Saturday: 2.75 + 3.05 = 5.8M. Problem solved. ONA total should be around $834M, if not higher. Also, edroger, thanks for pointing that out.
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