Eric the Clown

My dude, he's literally citing this weekend's Deadline article. https://deadline.com/2023/06/box-office-transformers-rise-of-the-beasts-spider-man-spiderverse-1235412771/

Generally speaking, yes. Outside of Dwayne Johnson and Will Smith vehicles, Bohemian Rhapsody, and a few Disney titles like Coco and Encanto, though I'm sure I'm missing a few others, movies that typically have non-white actors skew more domestic. Now to be fair, a lot of it can be attributed to genre (comedies typically don't travel well overseas, so Madea is out, dramas like The Help don't translate all that well to people outside America), and overseas box office is a lot more swayed on starpower. Still, it is a fairly consistent problem. Even Fast and Furious, which people love to use as an example of a proudly diverse franchise that people love overseas, is frankly boosted by the fact that Vin Diesel is the star and not Tyrese. So why exactly do movies starring non-white actors not do well? That's a can of worms that you can decide for yourself (and probably keep to yourself, because whatever you say will start a fight). But honestly, we should all just want the best actors for the part. We all like movies and want to enjoy them first and foremost. And if it requires a non-white actor for the job, then that's what we should champion. And frankly, it's super important to normalize POC actors as leads and give better opportunities to everybody, even if you may not make as much money as you would have with a white guy.

White people hate movies now I guess lmao (this is a joke people, please don't use this to start a fight)

Important to recognize that 200M in today’s money is a measly 150M. There is still the important issue of overworked VFX workers and directors who don’t know how these things work, but comparing budget to budget isn’t an exact science.

Just as a reminder before numbers come in that you have until July 4 to participate in the top 100 Warner Bros. Movies countdown. All you need is a minimum of 10 to be part of a once in a lifetime list.

Agreed. Going through my own WB marathon and watching so many of his films, it's insane how great so many of his movies were, especially since he was doing like 3 movies a year. Don't know how he delivered so many bangers in such a short time. He's overindexed a ton on my personal list. Would be really cool if certain auteurs treated him with more respect and made sure to say his name, but that's none of my business. 🍵

Only terminally online neo-Nazis care about "wokeness". Plus movie audiences today skew younger and more progressive, so this shit don't matter.

The Flash Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-7 and Counting Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold TOTALS 0 98 1938 18907 10.25% Total Seats Sold Today: 85 Comp - T-7 0.324x of The Batman (7M) 0.866x of Jurassic World 3 (15.59M) 0.288x of Thor 4 (8.35M) 1.878x of Black Adam (14.27M) 0.717x of Avatar 2 (12.19M) 0.386x of Ant-Man 3 (6.75M) 0.496x of Guardians 3 (8.67M) 0.820x of Spider-Verse (14.23M)

...what?

Just because toys aren't as popular as they used to doesn't mean they still aren't an important part of a film's success and reason for existing. And even Terminator, despite being R, is still designed to sell Funko Pops and collectible figurines aimed towards adults and Halloween costumes. So like...it's still a toy commercial aimed at a nostalgic audience who remember seeing it when they were younger. Fits the bill. Him and Dominique Fishback are the only reasons I'm planning to see the new Transformers. I'm far from a fan of this series, but both of them are easily two of the most charismatic rising stars working today, and they both deserve the support.

I know that it's not much in the grand scheme of things, but Transformers set to, at worst, nearly miss 60M+ is probably the craziest story of the summer so far. Every other movie's opening weekend makes sense when you hear it, even Guardians 3's total sounds legit enough. And judging by the poor RT Aud. score, it's probably not gonna go all that far. But Transformers was a property that had been on the decline for years, had no real big hook in the marketing, has mediocre reviews, no big stars. There was zero reason for this not to open to 30M and continue the diminishing returns. Now it's gonna double that? I guess 2000s nostalgia really did save the day here. Only explanation I can think of if I'm being honest.

Do you like to eat cats?

My favorite (and by "favorite", I mean "I hate it") case of Hollywood accounting is how My Big Fat Greek Wedding, one of the most successful indie movies ever, inexplicably lost $20 million, all so Nia Vardalos and her team couldn't be given the proper rewards for what was her movie about her life story. It's just despicable.

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood earned bigger box office than Dark Phoenix, Terminator Dark Fate, Pacific Rim 2, only slightly less than Godzilla: King of the Monsters and Solo, at far lower costs than all those nostalgic toy commercials. But funny enough, 95% of the movies that the studios put out are nostalgic toy commercials that cost a fortune to produce and advertise, while movies like OUATIH are on their last legs. We could see Heaven's Gate-style bomb after bomb with these nostalgic toy commercials and these studios will still pump out $250 million for an ALF reboot. There's no scaling down whatsoever.

5 day opening IIRC

You could have said it was more than meets the eye.

LET THEM COME

...just make a cartoon version of Cast Away, have some wacky celebrity voices for the Creepers, and you make a billion dollars. This is silly.

Wait...live action Minecraft? I thought this was an animated movie, which makes way more sense. That sounds uncanny and creepy lol

Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report Final Count Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold TOTALS 0 111 3762 18524 20.31% Total Seats Sold Today: 1,488 Comp 2.724x of Uncharted (10.08M) 0.598x of Jurassic World 3 (10.77M) 1.065x of Black Adam (8.09M) 0.620x of Avatar 2 (10.54M) 0.924x of John Wick 4 (8.22M) 1.464x of Dungeons and Dragons (8.2M) 1.218x of Fast X (9.14M)

Like I said, I'm in a "I want to be cynical" kind of mood. And I don't know if those openings for Oppy and Barbie would have them "dominate" like Nash is saying.

Not gonna go too far into this, because I know I'm going to get lectured by others because I dared to doubt Barbie or Papa Nolan, but I can see all of Flash, Indy, Oppy, and Barbie opening around the 50s just like Transformers. Maybe one of them opens in the 60s? Just feels like they all have issues when it comes to breaking out any further outside of their respective fanbases. Which...yeah, that would be a dreadful period from now until November. And if the strikes get real bad and cause mass delays...kinda scared if the movie industry will even survive all this. I know I'm probably being too overly cynical, but it's another one of those "too hard not to be cynical" kind of days. But hey, I can at least kind of see all the crazy M:I breakout predictions now? Maybe? It's definitely the strongest offering of the bunch, even if the trailers don't really have any big hook for non-fans.