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If US had taken cues from continental Europe and Canada we'd have an easy $800m grosser.
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Why does the-numbers still have average ticket price at $9.17. Do we have any update on it from a reliable source since 2020.
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Hmm wonder why the Mon-Mon drop for A2 and Puss are higher relative to their weekends.
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Avatar :The Way of the Water OS thread
Jiffy replied to Sophia Jane's topic in International Box Office
Would require 6.6x multiplier off $40m WW weekend, right? Think that's too big an ask without any more China contribution. Even $2.3B needs 4x multiplier. -
Avatar :The Way of the Water OS thread
Jiffy replied to Sophia Jane's topic in International Box Office
I love Miyazaki/Shinkai and several other Japanese directors, although Cameron had a strong track record there until now. It seems the studio is playing a bigger role in this scenario if the blame is being put on Disney+ (I understand why this would harm most product associated with Disney, but the whole idea of Avatar is that it demands to be seen in theater so I question why that was specifically an issue here if there wasn't really an access issue). It's true the signs where there with TV ratings / home video rental/sales but you could also say that it might make sense to some degree if the idea is it is just not the same if you aren't seeing it in theaters. To me this would be more explicable if Hollywood product was failing across the board but clearly that's not the case (TGM, JW, and you have a turd like BR legging to $100m+ cuz of the soundtrack). If 3D is dead there so be it, but a follow-up to uber-blockbuster that didn't have WOM issues with that multiplier declining so much is nearly unprecedented since this did not fail everywhere like the Alice in Wonderland sequel (closest comparison seems to be The Hobbit, but reception to that was generally worse everywhere and probably higher admissions drops across the board). People will be pointing to this for awhile in noting the market's idiosyncratic nature. -
Avatar :The Way of the Water OS thread
Jiffy replied to Sophia Jane's topic in International Box Office
I used to have a lot of respect for Japan's market taste (in animation esp.), but dunno how much value they place on directors anymore and question whether the idea of cinema as spectacle is still alive (unless Tom Cruise is shilling the product). -
Probably another double-counting mistake. Just saw A2 a third time (this time in 4DX) at the soon-closing Regal Union Square. Mostly full crowd, the movie holds up although this being my first 4DX experience it is pretty gimmicky/distracting, and I don't think I have much interest in trying it again.
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The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread (December 2021 - July 2023)
Jiffy replied to Cap's topic in Numbers and Data
What was the rationale for the smaller theater count on MM3? -
E.T. is still incredibly effective IMO.
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Avatar :The Way of the Water OS thread
Jiffy replied to Sophia Jane's topic in International Box Office
I don't think that's why it succeeded in those markets at all, it's just an amusing connection that's already been pointed out. TGM is largely well-done/entertaining, but I wouldn't consider the degree of its success warranted (although will take any win for theatrical we can get these days so I was rooting for its climb to $700m). -
Avatar :The Way of the Water OS thread
Jiffy replied to Sophia Jane's topic in International Box Office
This is all-time in local currency? -
Avatar :The Way of the Water OS thread
Jiffy replied to Sophia Jane's topic in International Box Office
So dumb, US/UK/Japan military allies got themselves twisted with this one. 😄 -
Yah E.T. and Titanic probably the two most impressive runs post-82, although I still give the edge to Titanic since it had to compete with home video / cable and was more global (+Diamond selling soundtrack).
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Titanic and The Beatles probably the two biggest multi-media events of the 20th century on a global scale. GWTW had a different trajectory with insane longevity over decades, though.
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Avatar :The Way of the Water OS thread
Jiffy replied to Sophia Jane's topic in International Box Office
Of two minds about the domestic total. It is a great result after the opening, but if you look at Canada seems there should have been $800m+ potential in NA. I know Europe is generally considered more cynical than America, but wonder if a different sort of cynicism hampered its US potential. Still hard to upset with the result, but TGM shouldn't be winning out even domestically. -
Avatar :The Way of the Water OS thread
Jiffy replied to Sophia Jane's topic in International Box Office
Japan stands alone in shame. -
Yeah Cinematography should have been a gimme as well since the first won it, but possible the HFR did not sit well with branch members?
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So glad this hung on to make it into Best Picture. Too bad about the Cameron miss but was inevitable at this point.
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Godspeed.
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$20m weekend would be good but was hoping it'd surprise. We'll see how Wed/Thurs play out.