Infernus

No, only like AOU.

Wait, are we talking about Cameron or Pixar?

What are you talking about? It will super easily break the december record by atleast 40m.

If no other marvel movie is able to top Avengers by then than this will be the one to break both its OW and Final gross. Final gross is not that certain but this will have the biggest finale effect of any movie franchise in history going for it. After so many movies released over so many years with intermingling stories all leading to this one final moment we will finally get the end.

In a market with such enormous growth (growth that has only increased this year) and where sequels are recieving increases of greater than 100m (F7 saw a growth of greater than 250m but its an exception), I am perfectly sure that a genuine sequel of a mega hit franchise releasing after a huge gap will increase atleast 150m from a 3D re-release of its 22 year old part.

17.5M seems the roof for this going by these numbers and declines

So you don't think this is a disaster coz 400m is a good number, then what are you expecting for Avatar 2 if you believe its gonna be a disaster?

No the excitement is between MI5 and Jurrasic World. Terminator is going to cross 100m but will still almost certainly lag behind them both. I think Jurassic World will come out on top. Infact i seriously think it may come close to or even pass the 200m mark here. Firstly its much more of what the chinese audience loves plus there's the nostalgia factor which is very effective here as we saw with Titanic.

You seriously don't think 400-450 is a disaster? And yet you also say that you never expected that this will struggle to fight dark knight rises domestically.....

That's almost exactly what I said around a 80-90 pages back -

Wait, what if this turns out to play like MJ1? A smaller than expected OW but a greater than expected Multiplier and thats when that movie was so much worse than even this. Its certain that this won't have a 3 multiplier, of course but maybe this could come close to x2.75. With a 2.75 Multiplier this will have a final gross of 522m from an OW of 190m. That i guess is going to be the roof for this though.

Wow, so BKB you have so much to say about how wrong RTH was and you don't have a word to say for yourself? You have been posting much much higher predictions since months before and were so super-confidently saying that 100m is coming and everybody knows that and that we should embrace it and that we are big fools because we are committing the same mistake twice, even yesterday. And you are trying to blame it on Rth? I was a little happy to see you congratulating DH2 as not fighting back in itself was more than what I had been expecting of you but you should atleast just concede that yeah you were wrong and that you just hope it picks itself up from now on like everyone else. And RTH, please don't pay any attention to anyone blaming you. THere are a hundred times more people here who really respect you and appreciate you for you giving us your time than those people. And BKB, big bro, please don't take this to heart. It may have played below expectations but the number is still really good and it topped the first movie which is remarkable. I am sure it will have better legs than what many are expecting and that it is going to perform even better in the coming days. So just relax and please don't do anything rash or irresponsible.

Just a little more than me I'd say (He has the added satisfaction of looking and laughing at those insulting and laughing at him). But i still hope the actuals increase and turn out to be 90.9m.

The number isn't bad, infact its very very super good. The thing is the goodness of the numbers is subjective and 85m is not as good for AOU as it eould have been for some other movie. Its just like how 400m would be a very big achievment for any movie but still a disappointment for AOU. That's the difference. The number isnt bad but slightly disappointing. Disappointing in keeping with our predictions. But tbh our predictions were a tad too high and the number isn't really disappointing as its still greater than the first movie's number. It would have been really disappointing if it had been lower than that.

Fullbuster, please, please, don't act like BKB. You're much more sane and ready to accept reality than him (and i know I'm going to regret writing this later part about accepting reality). Please don't go down on his turf. You feel the no isn't disappointing while some do. You atleast have to concede that its perfectly normal to feel disappointed by this as this isn't an outright winner so let everybody feel their way.

That's obvious. But its not just a matter of tickets sold and money earned. I'm talking about the most Incredible run. F7s run is one of the most incredible and expectations-defying one in the past decade while AOUs run is mostly either on line with expectations or below them. You may go read the 'record no of billion dollar movies' thread for more on this. Me and Jessie argued a lot about which run was more incredible Frozens or F7s.

Kinda feels like 2012. I wasn't even interested in box office back than but reading a few threads of the time its clear that Everybody thought it will be the year of Dark Knight Rises and Avengers came out on top. Its the same with F7 and AOU this year.

Sorry fullbuster but.....Yes.

Without previews.

This is bound to be more frontloaded.

lol 85m is a fail and you guys know it. I hope the actual estimates and then the actuals turn out better. Still it would be really hilarious if it fails to break DH2's record after all the things stacked in its favour

This graph also goes on to show the growth in markets since Avengers. As per this graph India, South Korea, Malaysia and Philippines seem to have growed the most out of the markets it has already got released in. Would be funny when this crosses its predecessors chinese gross in just 3 days.

If only it had opened in China last weekend or even this weekend we would have been talking about 870 or 800m and the fastest to 1B record would have been in the bag. As of now though, it will open in China 3 days after this completes 17 days WW.

I just can't wait to see the demography breakdown for this weekend. If it does indeed turn out that there has been a big increase in teen% from last week, it would confirm that the legs for this are going to be better than the average frontloaded movie. If that is the case 95m should be easy and 100m should happen.

Those are both extremes and we're talking about the most probable numbers right now. While I really hope Dory makes that much DOM (Nemo is one of my favourite animated movies of all time just behind grave of the fireflies) I mdon't think that is very probable. More like 400-450m in my opinion (if this is almost as good as the first movie, that is).