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Scream | January 14, 2022 | Profit of $56.7M
Macleod replied to cheesypoofs's topic in Box Office Discussion
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We'll see... I prefer to think that it's probably because, you know, Keaton's Wayne will be in his 60s, at this point...and therefore slowing down. It's much more probable that he's getting hit more often... In fact we will probably see him "quitting" in this movie to be more mentor-ish, a la Batman Beyond.
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I would say...for everyone... wait and see! To be fair, we have no idea what the story will be here! It's very possible -- and I'd say even likely -- that Portman is one-more-and-done, here. She could even be completing a 3-film contract that Marvel had her in originally that she never quite fulfilled, of course. What if Jane is only really "Thor" for this film, but by the end, does decide to give it up? Naturally, the best way to end it would be to pass the mantle over to...Valkyrie. This would I think please almost all corners of this debate. The Portman fans get their movie, The Valkyrie fans get their Queen and warrior, and of course it looks like Thor himself is back to some traditional look and feel in this one...with Taika's quirky touch adding new nuances, I'm sure. We know there's going to be LOVE & THUNDER...but I would bet on some TEARS, too...if there is any hint of the comics arc, here...
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I would expect this first trailer to possibly show or hint at anything that has been officially confirmed in the trades...and sometimes fans forget a bit about what that is...or isn't... in this case, those two names above are not officially announced as attached to this project. Neither are many other names that are percolating corridors of websites. I am sure SONY and yes, MARVEL will want to keep *something* a bit quiet until closer to release... then again, it's SONY we're talking about here, and their trailers for these franchises have a history of "giving things away." I don't think it really matters to Feige whether or how the above names are dealt with in marketing for this movie...because they were never part of the MCU...and as far as we know so far... I don't expect them to be in the future.
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Not sure where to place this baby... but this seems like a good spot. The latest "public" quotes from SONY Production head Sanford Panitch on all things-rumored via Spidey, Multiverses, Villain Solo Silos, Sinister Shlocks... "There actually is a plan..." 😂 https://variety.com/2021/film/news/spider-man-sony-marvel-kraven-sanford-panitch-1234984449/
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"Been discussed as directors" is not the same thing as "being talked to for the project" and may not be a "thing" at all. I think "LEGIT" news media is getting caught up in the same vicious circle of hyperbolic rumor-exaggeration that the fanboy websites are, as evidenced by the JOKER topic over there...
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Nice to see some great discussion of FILM HISTORY in this thread! TCM doesn't "own" anything, but I think you're talking about the Ted Turner-owned catalogue of pre-1986 MGMs that was eventually picked up by Warners? https://press.aboutamazon.com/news-releases/news-release-details/amazon-and-mgm-have-signed-agreement-amazon-acquire-mgm Above is the official press release from Amazon. Film rights can get contentious for a number of reasons, but certain titles here oddly stick out. They mention POLTERGEIST and BASIC INSTINCT -- the former of which is owned by Warners through the pre-86 Turner MGM buy. As far as INSTINCT, that is more debatable and confusing -- as StudioCanal own the film and I think also many home video rights, and they had previously licensed it out to Lionsgate in the U.S. for many years (as they had a previously existing deal with Carolco), but there is a new 4K restoration that Rialto has helped with. MGM has BASIC INSTINCT 2, from my understanding and might own "sequels and future franchise iterations"...but the only one people really care about is the original. So why is MGM/Amazon claiming they have the original title, which would no doubt entice investors/consumers to get PRIME so they could watch it? AGREED. I thought my older Vizio TV was compensating with an older version of the app, but good to know I'm not crazy. Just one of the many reasons that I decided to QUIT Amazon Prime this week. The interface has always been shoddy, lots of curios of titles I was never 100% compelled to watch, and their shipping and customer service behavior has, particularly in recent months, really disappointed me. Watching NOMADLAND also made me reconsider how much I'm contributing to the big machine of corporate shuffling. "Too big for their britches" comes to mind. So what was I paying for? I'm done. Good point and kind of a sad state of affairs. I think many studios would have paid around $4-5 billion for the BOND franchise alone... It's a valuable library for someone who knows what to do with it...but that has always been the real question. Well, Stallone has been working on *two* different ROCKY spin-off projects, a Prequel TV series and perhaps one more spin-off present-day film where "Rocky mentors an illegal immigrant from the border"... so I'd say Amazon's backing might very well make these more likely to happen! 😂 He also has a Director's Cut of ROCKY IV finished up...I could very well see that being a PRIME exclusive...
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Uh... by "genius blockbuster" I mean... I would rather go back and watch any Bay movie from the 1990s than almost any Hollywood blockbuster from the last 10 (or possibly even 20) years... There's a style and brash attitude there in the filmmaking that is wonderful entertainment, no matter how "stupid" the films may seem... and top quality tech credits and practical effects that aren't glossed over by copious CGI and "digital glossing."
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Hey there... I ain't necessarily talking about *my* reaction to it all... but audiences, critics, internet, the whole shebang that comes with it... the "cultural discussion" it encouraged. No one involved in this production wants another one of "those" moments, I'm sure... And all those other moments work because they worked in movies that were infinitely better. It's as simple as that. Anything's believable as long as the audience buys into it from the beginning. It's when they don't that there's a problem...
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As one of Eternals will probably say at some point in the movie: "We don't think in such small-minded terms." I'm betting a significant part of the plot for present-day happenings will revolve around what happened with ENDGAME (the final dialogue confirms this) and that the Eternals see that this is the moment when they need to get involved... humanity can't handle it's own shit anymore. Perfect metaphor for reality right now. Too perfect. If only we had some Eternals to help convince people to wear masks and take vaccines...and not believe conspiracy theories. 😉