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Only if he doesn't get dubbed. Let me say it again: TONY LEUNG HAD BETTER NOT BE DUBBED FOR AMERICA, FEIGE!!! If there's a "problem" with English... subtitle him. It remains [reasonably] authentic.

There's obviously a whole lot of homage going on here, too...

The question is... how old is Leung's character? The "flashbacks" make it look like it could be centuries ago...although yes, China has only undergone rapid development in certain regions in the last few decades, and many parts of the country (if it is even supposed to be China) are still undeveloped... but it could just be an "origin of the 10 rings" thing... Just speculating... Wonder if he is "immortal" through the powers of the rings and that he's actually fathered lots of children, and perhaps Shang-Chi is the first one who actually turns good? (If I just spoiled the whole thing, sorry Feige!) Either way, yes, hope Tony Leung gets to show off some more charisma!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My god, things will only get more confusing from here for casual online commentators... George REEVES Christopher REEVE Matt REEVES...?

I will respectfully disagree on this; based on what I'm seeing so far, I don't see how this outgrosses Black Widow in any territory. But hey, 2020/2021 remain unpredictable, so anything's possible!

No, I haven't seen this, yet...had forgotten about it, thanks for reminding. So yes, I'm sure she can do more...just disappointing to see "the same thing" again.

Yeah, she's funny, and her show is great, but her schtick will get old in movies real-quick unless she actually develops some nuanced "acting."

Yep, not impressed, so far... but to be fair, we don't know that Leung's character will necessarily be a "show off your moves" guy... perhaps magic is his whole subterfuge... and it does seem like wristbands have replaced the rings?? 😂 (Even Leung's wearing them in the EW still.) I noticed this immediately, even though I've barely heard him in English. Totally different voice. Apparently not good enough or "right" enough for Feige... ?? Was expecting something a bit brighter and I don't know...different...from this trailer. Kind of bummed out. Looks like "more of the same." But I guess I shouldn't be surprised, anymore...

It's clear he will ultimately be the villain...but it would be nice if perhaps the filmmakers at least attempted to give us a nuanced character from the outset that appeared not to be the villain... 😉 Mads will add nuance no matter what, of course...but just my wishes... I just hope it's a more meaningful role than his Dr. Strange character, for instance...

Wouldn't be surprised if this is basically ghost-directed by The Rock at this point. The damn thing has been circling in his head for over a decade, he probably has it all envisioned.

Title should be corrected. Only one Wachowski, Lana, is really involved here, correct?

Bet she's "unofficially" helping with the script, as well. Seems a crime not to use that part of her brain.

Yes, I know all this. And it was odd at the time, too. Any smart business person/investor would have wanted him back...unless something problematic happened, which clearly did during the making of Creed II. Stallone was talking up a solo ROCKY sequel in the past couple of years, has now revealed he's writing/producing a ROCKY PREQUEL, and is finishing his "Director's Cut" of ROCKY IV...so he clearly doesn't want to give up the character...

Long rumored, but now confirmed... Something disagreeable enough must have gone down on Creed II that they aren't talking about. I think it has to do with how Stallone somehow wrestled the movie away and turned it into more of a Rocky follow-up than a Creed entry... https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/sylvester-stallone-will-not-appear-in-creed-iii

They're obviously going to wait and see how the theatrical market is doing by that time...and judging by Godzilla/Kong, there are strong possibilities... but if it moves back to "only in theatres" -- I do wonder if anyone will actually take up suit with HBO/WarnerMedia for "false advertising." 😂

I'll admit that I woke up today, saw the Godzilla/Kong numbers, and my first thought was: "...They should have kept Black Widow in May." Best trailer yet, in my opinion, and it's clear they're intending to stick to JULY 9th, the way they emphasize it... 😂

I'm guessing multiple time-jumps. Early origins. Then most of the movie probably takes place decades back, JSA-period, and my bet is that by the end, Black Adam is somehow buried/imprisoned and doesn't wake until present-day, where he starts creating havoc due to his unsettled mind. (Dr. Fate is also flexible to later reappear in present-day, as he is essentially immortal and goes through different hosts.) Naturally, the first being on Earth that would probably "hear" Adam's rumblings and/or be able to react/arrive most quickly would be...Superman.

Fair enough. I edited my statement to say "most of". Davis is on that tier. These other two guys are great/entertaining, but I wouldn't put them on that tier. But I know questions of "quality" don't come into play for most with a movie like this. And yes, I know "Birds of Prey" kind of flopped, so Warners is clearly leaning into other angles right now for this. But even BoP feels like it had more "style" than this. We'll see...

OK -- then they should show at least a snippet of that in the next trailer. Because based on what I've seen so far, there's nothing interesting enough here to convince me to pay any extra fee to see this, and surely not to go to theaters.

I don't know...the kind that an Oscar-nominated, multi-award nominated actress wants and probably deserves? She and Elba are still clearly in a different league than most of the other performers in this project. The question then is...was this a "contract" movie for Robbie? I.E. was she kind of "forced" to do it because of a contract option when signing for the first one? Possibly.

Stallone has basically revealed on his Instagram that *he* is voicing King Shark. Ho-hum. I was dreaming he was playing a revived "John Spartan."

What do you mean by "closest equivalent"? By "spy" theme/genre? Serious question. And this is yet another reason why Cruise remains a model for the industry -- if he's able to deliver what he has with those M:I films at a significant/percentage price point less than certain other blockbusters -- more reason why Paramount was smart to reverse Summer Redstone's "attitude" a few years back and remain in business with him. James Bond, well... essentially independently produced and one of the longest-running "continuous" film series of all time, barring perhaps Godzilla. But I'd argue that the Bond movies are too expensive now, too...eventually one will flop again (not just because of COVID, but creatively and at the box office). Sure. But they wouldn't be making this decision at all (especially for July) unless they were seriously unsure of U.S. and global theatrical potential. And I don't blame them -- I was 99% sure they were going this direction. Just saying... I would have found a way to make Black Widow for $150 mil. or less. But I digress... Anyway, it's all a fix... 😂 The "film business" makes a lot of its initial money through buying/selling properties, distribution deals, investment trade, tax shelters. Box Office is just gravy... Jolie's Tomb Raider was technically "in profit" before they even shot a role of film... but most of us are not really here to talk about that, I know...

For you, perhaps, not for me, in terms of the industry. We are at the point where $200 million is "average" for a tentpole. Eventually that model will implode, even for Marvel/Disney. And one could say that it might have already due to the COVID crisis, they just aren't talking about it...yet. The acceleration towards streaming is a good backup in the event traditional box office receipts don't come back the way we're used to. We will likely see budgets curbed a bit over the next couple of years due to this couple of year's COVID issues and lack of profits. I wouldn't have spent this much on a Black Widow film now or then, that's all I'm saying. And now current circumstances dictate that it's going to be a money-loser, regardless.

Yeah, rather surprised how short-changed she is in this trailer... For Harley fans, what is going on here with her character that offers any progression? I don't see anything... And Elba is a great, great actor, but I don't buy him in Gunn's tone of humor.

This is what the industry would call/used to call a "loose sequel." It can be viewed as a sequel, but clearly also as a singular thing, note the emphasis on "THE" on the first poster, which I'm sure was Gunn's preference...if not also Warner's.