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I think the nearly two month window is the biggest factor, personally. There's also the minor consideration of tickets (probably) dropping at 8pm EDT/5pm PDT so a true "one day" comparison is gonna be tough with something that dropped at 8am EDT/5am PDT. As it is, I have zero data for TFA and TLJ at the starts of their run. I have some sellout/percentage data for TLJ's last week of pre-sales buried deeeeeeply in this thread, for what it's worth. But nothing at the seat level, unfortunately (I started doing that on Black Panther's run). But what I do have: IW: 4662 | 13164 | 35.41% of sales | 42 days of pre-sales Solo: 2630 | 5789 | 45.43% of sales | 21 days of pre-sales --- (more theaters tracked below this line) CM: 1498 | 10553 | 14.20% of sales | 59 days of pre-sales EG: 14975 | 26655 | 56.18% of sales | 24 days of pre-sales Looking at it, imma gonna go with "yes". Even Solo, which never really took off at the end still had a stronger first day of sales to final count ratio than Endgame. That's 1) how insane EG's first day was and 2) how many tickets had to be bought beyond opening night. Now, both Solo and Captain Marvel had a few hours of sales in the previous day that I rolled over into "day 1", but that would just make the percentage even lower if they were accounted for or some sort of "true 24 hour period" was established. Likewise, the percentages of both IW and EG would go up, as those are around 18 hours or so of sales.

Well THIS proved to be prescient: Good going past me! Sure am glad I figured out that way to speed up manual counts on Fandango seat maps. Gonna come in real handy on those days.

By the way, in case folks are having trouble getting to the right date on Fandango, I manually forced it to go to 12/19 by changing the date in the url. So, for example, if one uses the "My theaters" link I went from: https://www.fandango.com/95814_movietimes?mytheaters=true&date=2019-10-19 to forcing it to https://www.fandango.com/95814_movietimes?mytheaters=true&date=2019-12-19 by editing the URL itself. That pulled up all of my local showtimes even though it doesn't display the calendar wall correctly. Yet at least. (naturally folks zipcodes would be different for their own regions but I wanted to give an example)

Probably not, as I saw that for TFA, TLJ, and Endgame. The only surprise would be that they established that so far in advance.

Probably 10/28 is my guess, based on nothing more than intuition and thinking Disney wants to give TROS a few days in the pre-sale limelight. That'd give Frozen 2 around the same pre-sale days as Aladdin, TS4, and TLK.

I would also point out that many theaters are gonna have, if not a bare bones amount of screenings, nothing close to their final slate, as it will be around 58 or so days from release when tickets go on sale. For comparison after all theaters checked in locally: Captain Marvel at T-56: 81 showings. Captain Marvel at T-8: 107 showings. Captain Marvel at T-0: 216 showings. Now this is SW so the initial number will be higher as will the rampup and final. *knocks on wood* I'm just reminding folks that many theaters won't have anything close to a full slate until a decent way into this pre-sale run.

Innnnnteresting scheduling. Taking advantage of the streaming format I see and not being chained to a week but still not going the dump all at once route (which I'm glad for, BTW). Giving TROS quite a bit of time in the limelight before dropping the season finale, I see. Which naturally makes a ton of sense. Be interesting to see how fandom handles Mando discussion around that time.

Depends almost entirely on in-house decisions, I think. I know with 99.999999% certainty that they're already in various theater computer systems. There was that leak from the in-theater Cinemark system a couple of days ago, for instance (posted on r/StarWarsLeaks). Also from what we can see on the public Cinemark website, the first three weeks of TROS showings now have drop down menus where you can select a day (say Dec 20th as a random example) when TROS is actually playing. But if you actually select that day it say "No showtimes for Dec 20th, 2019" (slight paraphrase). That tells me that the webpage "knows" that there are showdates in the Cinemark system, but not to display them quite yet. Fandango, locally at least, is only displaying dates up to Sun, Dec 15th at the moment. Can't even access Thr, Dec 19th or beyond on Fandango. Atom has drop down dates extending into next year, but also nothing on TROS's opening days/week. So, basically, up to individual chains to flip the switch to make it public. Could be Fri. Might be by Sat. Very probably by Sun.

Also gonna be a weekly series, apparently.

Decided to do one final check. Not up to my rigorous standards, but close enough. Just now (5:30 to 5:55) Maleficent 2 had sold 1450 tickets region wide (+754 since Tue) 46.83% of Pika Pika [3:30-4:00] (2.67m) [+0.45m] 37.18% of Aladdin [5:00-5:30] (2.60m) [+0.07m] 25.62% of It 2 [4:00-5:00] (2.69m) [+0.10m] 47.20% of H&S [5:40-6:15] (2.73m) [-1.15m] 21.62% of TS4 [4:30-5:30] (2.59m) [+0.38m] 13.21% of TLK [4:30-5:45] (3.04m) [+0.70m] TLK is outlier city, IMO. Slight issue with final comps at different times, but I think 2.6m to 2.7m sounds about right. I'd say 2.65m, but it's very rarely put in that precisely. @captainwondyful, put me down for 2.6m if you're making an official chart. Nice amount of walkups, and better than it looked earlier in the week. Was pleasantly surprised to see that there were some near sellouts at the busiest places, so maybe 3m as an upper bound, if the walkups continue. But I don't see it getting much higher than that. Could be wrong though, as this is something of a quick-n-dirty check.

Theater report from OG Tracker @WrathOfHan!!!!

Well, I also thought you talked them up a bit as a studio, but that might just be faulty memory. Never mind then.

That's a 35% week to week drop, right? Bodes well for the upcoming weekend, I would think. Especially since it already had the holiday Monday burning off a decent amount of weekly demand. As I check, it's also only an 11% drop off of Discount Tuesday. Best of the reported top ten so far. Sign of mid-run legs showing up, maybe?

And you didn't even tag @cannastop with this news?

(Doctor) "No, Time to Die"?

Out of all of them in this thread, the one quoted at the bottom really is the best:

@Plain Old Tele @4815162342

Doing some checking now that my initial celebration is over, does look like we're not gonna get in until 2022 (the team had been gunning for 2021), so MLS just had to fuck us over one last time. But that's an admittedly minor quibble. And, 'sides, give us plenty of time to build a great stadium as well as shore up a team of MLS-caliber players when it does enter the league. All in all, great news even if it took a while.

Plus we got a bitchin' name and crest! 👍 === Funny story, btw. A few years back, Sac Republic FC ran an April Fools Day prank saying that the California Quail would be our official team mascot. Quite elaborate and everything. Except... Fans decided that would in fact be cool! And thus the Victory Quail, among other Quail related memes, was born: An unofficial nickname for the new stadium 'round these parts of the "QuailYard" has already gotten some steam (see, it's a pun on it being built on an abandoned rail yard and... oh, never mind ). Just a goofy little thing that happened organically by chance. So if you hear a reference causally to quails in regards to Sac's team, know it's largely a fan created thing made with love. Anyway, glad to have you aboard, casually speaking. === Gonna be honest, I'm a very casual soccer fan as well. But I've been looking forward to this for years and so I'm gonna celebrate for a bit (as seen by avatar change) even if I won't be a die-hard soccer fan.

Man, I was actually starting to think it would never happen. We we all but assured to come in around five years back after our debut in the USL (Division 2 soccer [more or less {don't ask, it's complicated}]), but we kept getting the rug yanked out from under us as city after city after city got in ahead of our bids. In a way, we were in a similar situation to the NFL and Los Angeles, as we were always a carrot being dangled but always having something come up. Not completely analogous, as the NFL was all about moving teams, while this is expansion, but close enough. I won't bore the board with all of the setbacks and just soap-opera level insanity we've had to deal with this. Instead I'm just gonna celebrate the fact that soon Sacramento is gonna have its second major league level franchise. That's it's coming to be part of a revitalized section of downtown (that has even a longer history of false starts when it comes to devlopment [here, I'm talking about 30 years of false starts]) is just the icing on the cake.

FUCKING FINALLY!!!!!! Sacramento expected to be announced as 29th Major League Soccer team Monday === Only about four years later than it should have been, but I'll fucking take it!!!!

I also want to add for the board newbies that 'Crumbling' is usually used in an ironic manner now and while its usage varies from person to person it usually means "film that has been doing well had an expected or reasonable drop" or "film didn't reach initial early estimates from various sources on a daily or weekend number, but still did very well". In the second case, if a film had projected to hit, oh say 94m on a weekend but "only" did 92m, cries of "crumbling" often follow, even though 92m would have still been great. Sometimes though when a film really is starting to fumble, the rare non-ironic usage of the word will appear. But basically it's at meme status around here and not a sign that a film's fortunes are actually changing.

I didn't say I did. When it comes to preference my preference for OAR outweighs literally everything else. I really am not bothered by black bars on a TV. Can't put it anymore simply than that.

That's not what you asked though. You asked: and followed up with When it comes to watching TV, doesn't bother me in the slightest. Honest.

Movie theaters and TVs are different because movie screens can be adjusted through various means. But with most TVs that's simply not an option. So, sure, adjust movie screens to fit the content, however that needs to be done. I agree with you there. But since you asked about TV in particular, it doesn't bother me one whit in that medium. But demanding widescreen content on 4:3 TVs for around 15 to 20s years of my life conditioned me to think of it as normal experience. In fact, I am irritated when I don't have pillar box options for 4:3 content on widescreen delivery channels. As I said though, I am something of an OAR zealot. It's why I prefer movie theaters to adjust their screens (because they can) and prefer cable/streaming outfits to leave well enough alone (because they don't know my TV/monitor situation).