[Joker: Folie a Deux | October 4, 2024 | Lady Gaga is Harley Quinn in this 200M+ musical sequel]

 

[The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other]

 

[The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other]

9 minutes ago, Dragoncaine said:

Wow...we'll agree to disagree on the Black Adam comparison.

 

For those of you disappointed with this trailer, how did you feel about the Quantumania trailers -- which seems to be the closest current comp in terms of how it's positioned as a BIG movie for its universe? I haven't been able to muster up an ounce of excitement for that one, but curious what the general temperature is.

Probably best not to go down this path. It won’t end well.

 

Not every trailer is for everyone but if you’re in most marvel and dc threads it’s easy to see who’s a fan of which franchise and who can be objective and who can’t. 

[The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other]

1 hour ago, keysersoze123 said:

Despite Miller its a strong trailer. Keaton as batman and some bad ass action scenes. I am certain it opens > 100m. How much higher depends on buzz close to release. For now this SB spot is money well spent. 

 

Is Zod only the bad guy or would we have someone from Flash gallery of villains. 

Without spoiling anything Zod isn’t the only villain. 

[The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other]

Nice to see mostly positive reactions online, doesn’t often happen for a dc trailer lol. Not talking about cgi of course, looks bad in most movies now a days. 

[The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other]

Wow! Wasn’t expecting it to be that good. 

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1 hour ago, poweranimals said:

Grace Randolph takes another L.

 

Add in all the other fake scoopers who tried to tease pictures of that certain someone as the new Batman for the dcu, all a bunch of losers, so funny. The backtracking is hilarious. 

[The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other]

Nvm

[The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other]

2 hours ago, Porthos said:

 

There is also a danger of over-hype/too-high expectations.

 

I do think the "OMG1!1! BEST TESTED DC CBM EVAR" gossiping haven't quite broken through all of the Ezra Miller controversy.  At the same time I do think there is a real danger here of impossible to meet expectations setting in with some.

 

Hype can be a two edged sword, in other words.  If something is "merely" very good, or even "just" good, then it can seem bad in retrospect if someone was expecting so much more.

 

(this is your regularly scheduled reminder that Unrestrained Hype Leads to the Dark Side)

 

 

Well, even in the age of ChatGPT, critics are human.  Even of the best of them can get somewhat influenced by what colleagues they respect say and do.  Art isn't performed in a vacuum and neither is commentary. It's not bias; just being human.  

 

Now I don't think many critics will go in with an agenda, as that's highly unprofessional.  But would they react to this film exactly the same way as if Ezra Miller wasn't involved in controversy?  I am... skeptical.  I can see an added level of "show me" being involved, even if it's limited to a subconscious level.

 

That being said, I do think the vast majority of critics will push their personal feelings about Ezra Miller to the side when it comes to giving their thoughts about this movie.  They are professionals, after all.

 

 

Agreed on this part and I think we may be reaching that point tbh cause of what people are saying online. The good news is most of the general audience isn’t online so they can just go in blind and “if” the movie gets good reviews and a good score on RT that should only help bringing in people who are skeptical. I’m not expecting a huge box office but I’d like to see 600m.

 

With regards to the critics as I was saying before I’m not judging anyone on what they do. Ezra has to live with what they’ve done and if it reaches the level that the movie has some backlash then so be it. 

[The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other]

19 minutes ago, John Marston said:

 

 

No but that’s not the audience you rely on for superhero films 

Of course but Keaton could help bring in an older audience. I’m not saying he will or won’t but if I had to guess and if the movie is well received it should help. 

[The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other]

8 minutes ago, John Marston said:

 

Prepare to be disappointed when they have little effect on the box office. The Burton films have been overshadowed by other Batman adaptations (particularly the Nolan Films) and the 18-34 crowd don’t care whatsoever about them 

 

Do people over the age of 34 just not count anymore when counting dollars at the box office? I’d like all my money back if that’s the case. 

[The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other]

14 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

I wish it were someone besides Miller. It has to have universal acclaim for me to check this out in theatres. 

I’m sure there’s people who feel the same way. It will be interesting to see reactions to this cause apparently it’s tested extremely well. But will some critics let Millers real life behaviour influence their reviews. I’m not saying what’s right or wrong, just curious to see what happens. 

[The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other]

This is the most excited I’ve been for a cbm in a long time. I’m looking forward to all the dc movies this year but besides Superman, Flash was always one of my other favourites. I’m just so curious to see this movie already. 

[The Last Of Us - universal acclaim!]

This show is so good.

[The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other]

 

[The Flash | June 16 2023 | Ezra Miller, Michael Keaton | We’re stoping the count at a Nice 69% RT (it’s 72% For Real) | Please Remember that Your Enjoyment Of The Film is Not Based On Others Opinions And To Be Nice To Each Other]

 

 

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2 minutes ago, ViewerAnon said:

We'll see if people agree post-embargo but I've consistently heard the second half is rough and it's doing more setting up for later stuff than being its own movie.

Always appreciate your info, thanks! 

[Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania | February 17, 2023 | Competing with Eternals on RT, Competing with BvS on box office legs]

The majority of people invited to these premiers are huge fans of the genre, if they don’t get excited then your movie sucks lol. And it’s pretty easy to distinguish how a movie is from reactions. 

[The Last Of Us - universal acclaim!]

 

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15 minutes ago, MNightShya said:

Should we expect these moderate wide releases to be only with the previous HBO Max release movies?

I would assume that would be the case ya. 

[Superman | July 11, 2025 | James Gunn writing and directing | David Corenswet is Clark, Rachel Brosnahan is Lois]

35 minutes ago, kayumanggi said:

 

And based on what we know about the (potential) writers and directors so far, I think the properties are in good hands.

Yes as long as Gunn never brings over waititi, lol. 

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3 minutes ago, teard1972 said:

 

no, I got burned by trusting DC directors/writers too many times before the movie come out, WW84 was the last straw. PERSONALLY, I will not hype -believe will be good before the movie is done - any DC movie, that's all. And PERSONALLY I dislike Reeves Batman and Gunn's TSS, both in the not worthy watching in theaters category, 

That’s fine, then you should of included those other two movies and not only WW84, cause both the TSS and The Batman were received very well critically, and liked by fans and both came out after WW84 as well. Obviously you have a different opinion which is fine but that’s definitely not in the majority for those other two movies. 

[Superman | July 11, 2025 | James Gunn writing and directing | David Corenswet is Clark, Rachel Brosnahan is Lois]

18 minutes ago, teard1972 said:

after WW1984, I stop all together trusting any "Director Vision" for DC movies. 

So we only bring up WW1984 and say we don’t trust DC directors vision but we just skip over The Batman or TSS that were both done well by their directors visions or even Patty Jenkins first Wonder Woman movie for that matter? 

[Superman | July 11, 2025 | James Gunn writing and directing | David Corenswet is Clark, Rachel Brosnahan is Lois]

I’m pretty sure Gunn knows the difference in tone between a GOTG movie a TSS movie and a Superman movie. I get his humour isn’t for everyone in those other movies but I’m sure he’s read enough Superman comics to know what that movie should be, a big 4 quadrant movie that appeals to everyone.