Johnny Tran

What are you gonna do with Mickey Mouse? I could see a big blowout type of movie like a Fantasia type deal, a big animated feature. Obviously you can't do live action with the character lol

But if 'Barbie' was made by a mediocre director who was just there to do a job, it wouldn't have been the hit that it is. I'm sure it would have made money but the fact that the movie is actually good is really important for it also. There's a world where a Barbie movie could have been really bad.

That's already happened though. Nolan did Batman movies. Now Reeves is doing Batman movies. Coogler did Black Panther. Phillips did Joker. Denis did Dune. I think whenever you have a great filmmaker who is passionate about the IP and the studios leave them alone, they usually turn out something great. I think the question from 'Barbie' is what super popular IP hasn't been mined yet? Mario was another one earlier this year.

Just catching up with the thread since last night. WOW. Hey so with Oppenheimer, since "old dudes" haven't exactly shown up yet you would think we're gonna see some really nice legs from this eh?

And the numbers have gone up since a couple hours ago, great news. See y'all tomorrow. Gonna be a special day.

Please don't start with the "$19.5 isn't what I wanted so it's not that good" talk Lol.

Sounds like a great number to me. It's not the $23M that some thought could happen on the high end but that could be due to capacity as well.

I'd rather see Scorsese on the big screen but if he says "I need x for the budget" and the studios don't want to risk it, then I'll happily watch on streaming because I'd rather Scorsese make the movie he wants to make than have any limitations.

I am way out of the loop for 'Sound of Freedom' so apologies if this has been asked. I didn't see any trailers for this movie. I didn't really see anything about it. I have heard some of the political discourse surrounding it but I've tried to stay away from that too. Is the movie actually doing really well? Or is there some chicanery going on? I saw something about it's box office numbers "not being what they seem" but it wasn't on here. What's going on with it? Is middle America really rushing out to see it in droves?

Inconsistent? He has directed two hands worth of classic material lol.

I think it's the best move to make. They'll want Zendaya to be involved in the marketing campaign leading up to the release. I think what we'll see happen is movies that are finished and awaiting the end of the year/winter release dates will move into the first quarter of 2024 and movies that were supposed to be done filming this Fall will move into the later part of Summer or maybe next holiday season. For example, Dune part 2 moves into an April/May slot and Deadpool 3 ends up moving into a Christmas time slot.

I feel like we had this discussion with the Top Gun Maverick run and then again with the Super Mario run. I agree with you by the way, but of course nothing is fool proof. There's a lot of good original ideas still out there that don't catch on with movie going audiences. Do I think comic book/ongoing franchise fatigue has set in? Not exactly. I do think people are being choosier with respect to which movies they feel they can wait for on streaming however. I think in a pre-streaming/pre-Covid world some of these movies would have done a lot better but audiences now are just like "meh, skip." Barbie is a completely new thing and has captured women preteens all the way to probably mid 40s at an astronomical level and some men are understanding that this is a movie that they will like too. It's not a "my girlfriend dragged me here" thing at all. And for Oppenheimer. Nolan is one of the handful of directors that has his fanbase and they've done a great job of letting people know that listen, this was all shot in IMAX, it's a beautiful LOOKING film and you need to see this on the biggest screen possible.

Not to get too political but I'm sure you've all seen the campaigns now AGAINST the Barbie movie from the right. Unfortunately some folks have decided that this needs to be a gender war, so with that I would not be surprised to see some places like IMDB as an example to have a little lower scores for it.

I agree with you but based on the numbers we're seeing here in the tracking thread I think it's impossible for Barbie to do "only" $110M and Oppenheimer to do $48M.

Belloni on his show today said the industry average for Barbie is still $110M and Oppenheimer is $48M but he's taking the over. He is predicting $150M for Barbie and "mid 50s" for Oppenheimer. I think he's going to be low on both LOL. Also, what's up with the industry tracking average? I think they're just plain wrong. Even at my local theater the interest is on the level of a comic book or Star Wars event.

I might be the only one here but I'm looking forward to 'The Creator'. We don't get many decently budgeted sci-fi movies anymore. I was surprised to see that the budget is reported at $86M. It looks really good

So my local AMC has IMAX and another large format, they are splitting Oppenheimer and Barbie between the two with Oppenheimer receiving the IMAX screens and Barbie on their own format. Everything for tonight is sold out. Everything for Friday afternoon is nearly sold out. Everything for Friday early evening is sold out. Still some seats left for the late showings but not many. I've never seen this at this theater outside of a big comic book or Star Wars event.

We're going to the IMAX for 'Oppenheimer'. I'm not sure we will catch 'Barbie' but I do want to see it and I wish it well. This has been a horrible Summer so far for the box office. For the first time this Summer, I'm excited to see numbers.

Since when is Margot Robbie 'box office poison'? Suicide Squad was a smash hit mostly because of her. What happened to the IP after that and the studio jumbling is to no fault of her. Wolf of Wall Street was huge too though I can't really credit her for it but she did become a star with that performance. Didn't Focus do well also? She's a superstar.

That lineup looks like the Warner Bros. of old. Hopefully James Gunn gets DC on track and I think Reeves will do fine with 'The Batman II"

This is anecdotal but my timeline has been absolutely flooded with Barbie stuff from people who don't normally post about movies. Mostly women but some men too. I just think this is heading for a crazy number.

I disagree. If you follow comic book movies even a little bit she's almost impossible to escape. Her tweets and other BS are always plastered everywhere.

Still, Zaslav and the team did a hell of a job marketing. This is the hit they been looking for.

Warner Bros. has had a tremendous marketing team for a long time. I'm not sure who is there now so we can only credit Zaslav's team. Mattel isn't distributing the movie. They are a partner sure but WB is the studio. They get the credit.

Say what you want about Zaslav but Warner Bros. absolutely nailed the marketing on this. It's awesome to see. Give credit when it's due.