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Aren't those simply real anecdotes that happened to them for the most part ? https://deadline.com/2019/01/green-book-tapes-doc-shirley-tony-lip-vallelonga-actual-audio-mahershala-ali-viggo-mortensen-1202541392/ Never ate chicken with is hands, the YMCA, etc... If you do not make the fish out of the waters element of those kind of movies (that in part why The Upside is not has good has the Intouchable, the rich being a new rich instead of old money) strong enough, it risk to end up quite flat, same for the buddy cops comedy.
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The movie do address that when Shirley has is break down for not being accepted by the elites nor the black people, living him without any identity no ? (that why I thought it was an other one stereotype going on) My the Imitation Game example is just to show that fiction bending for the movie entertainment value reality is just ultra common, take how much The Hidden Figure did bent reality (Katherine G. Johnson didn't even knew the bathroom were segregated and used them for 2 year's before getting aware of it, but you do not have much of a movie without creating those made up conflict).
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That a completely different point you are making, ( maybe we are in 2 different conversation right now), my message was: The thing is the movie never points it out as a bad thing, Point what has a bad thing ? just a charming attribute of Viggo's character that's never fully addressed. How is it not charming the poor people showing is way of life to the elites, what should be addressed ? Was DiCaprio character showing how the poor dance and have fun to the elite in Titanic a big issue, that should have been addressed ? Yes it promote some weird false stereotype that elites do not have funs in parties and are make it bigger how out of touch they are, but that what movie do, make stuff bigger than life for amusement. Maybe Viggo character started has more refined, less caricature of a racist, those end up meeting in the middle learning of each other story are interesting has how big the cap was. Take The Imitation Game, that was really far from Turing personality apparently, but that how you turn it in a successful movie.
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Not sure to follow, how it is a bad thing for someone to show how the working class people live and eat to the elite out of touch others in a movie ? That a really really common trope in rich pass time with poorer movies, The Upside Hot Dog scene and so on (and that being the big Green Book flaw, how unoriginal it is).
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Yeah I am really not sure I see it either, is it not much more the 24h cable news and now even more so Social Media constant talk about the news that changed and not how political award show became versus the pass ? One other thing that could have changed on the subjective perception of the political level of the show is how partisan it got ? When someone talked against the Vietnam war on the show Frank Sinatra showed to be again the move and went to read a speech that the academy was sorry about it, the show was hosted by Bob Hope a very pro military figure, the crowd was booing anyone that talked politic on the show (or plugged a friend company in the case of Christian Bale). For someone that get easily triggered by people bringing politics on the show, if the crowd boo and agree with you on that point it is probably a much easier pill to swallow than if they cheer.
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They were in different category. Best Actress Olivia Colman – The Favourite as Anne, Queen of Great Britain Yalitza Aparicio – Roma as Cleodegaria "Cleo" Gutiérrez Glenn Close – The Wife as Joan Castleman Lady Gaga – A Star Is Born as Ally Maine Melissa McCarthy – Can You Ever Forgive Me? as Lee Israel Best Supporting Actress Regina King – If Beale Street Could Talk as Sharon Rivers Amy Adams – Vice as Lynne Cheney Marina de Tavira – Roma as Sofía Emma Stone – The Favourite as Abigail Masham Rachel Weisz – The Favourite as Sarah Churchill Not having strong desire to win 2 close to each other is quite common I think.
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That could be right, but in term of quality of the show itself, it went quite well right ? The situation is rumored to get a bit "dire": https://deadline.com/2019/02/oscars-ads-abc-ratings-concerns-threshold-guarantees-1202562868/ Has for people that care for the shows, I watched the american ABC stream and the ads were Rolex, Cadillac, high end luxury meriton VIP travel package, heart surgery, old rich people is the main demo/were the money is, I am not sure if they got particularly upset this year.
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I am not sure it is just cultural tastes, I think technological change could have something to it. Home video make the sequels models obviously more interesting, before it the audience for the second was a bit more limited to the audience that saw the first one in theater. Technology make it much easier for consumer to have a lot more information about the movie, making the power of the poster / marquee getting less and less important.
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Ghostbusters: Afterlife | November 19 2021 | Sony | Delayed again
Barnack replied to grim22's topic in Box Office Discussion
That nature of the criticism and the volume of it can display it too. Say 12 movies do not look good that year and one get particularly more criticism than the average bad looking one it can start to look strange and the language used about one can sound different than the one used for different bad movies. I am not sure how one did read any comments section of that movie and achieve to not feel some. I think that a bit of strawmen by moments, yes some use thiis is minority projects has a shield against valid criticism obviously, that not what people are talking about.