Dominic Draper

Black widow is not the most successful film of the year. Not even close. It has the highest domestic box office and highest OW that much is true. But films like Conjuring 3 and Quiet Place 2 actually you know, made money. Also F9 has made $640M+ it's by far the highest grossing hollywood film.

Kind of interesting to note that the verified audience RT score for TSS has been dropping steadily and quickly. It's gone from 92% to now 85% in 2 days. Wonder how much further it drops and when it starts to stabilize. Unverified is 80% for reference.

Overall it was a 3/10 for me. The opening gag of having a team assembled and then killed was already done by macgruber and deadpool 2 and it was done better by those movies by a million miles. Characters just randomly trauma dump their tragic backstories to each other out of nowhere and it's such clunky writing. Gunn does this repeatedly in his films now. He also does the taser face joke thing like in gotg 2 where he keeps repeating a joke over and over. By the 3rd or 4th time polka dot man sees his mom I just wanted the movie to end. Beside that I did like polka dot man a lot, until his he gets a pointless death in an unfunny gag. The over the top violence didnt really add anything to the film and the majority of the humour is cringey juvenile stuff. Ratcatcher 2 is the star of the film for me and one of the only things I found redeeming. Bloodsport is fine but he just deadshot again. Harley was supremely boring in this. Her side plot was a huge waste of time and such a pace killer. Most disappointing film of the year for me. My audience was about 20 people. I think the only time I heard the audience laugh was weasel not being able to swim. Sigh. I want to love DC but they just dont make it easy.

I thought peacemaker was the worst character in the film and have no interest in watching his show. Him even surviving was eye roll worthy. Gets shot in the throat and left for dead in a building that then gets wrecked and falls apart by starro.

I didn't like it. At all. Pretty bummed. Gunns style just does nothing for me and this movie just solidifies that. I thought gotg 2 was also bad The beginning was a recycled joke we have seen done in at least 2 other films. And then it's just a cycle of characters trauma dumping out of nowhere in between boomer rock music and shock value violence and cringey repetitive humour. 3/10.

*Puts Kleenex boxes on feet while stacking jars of urine* Speaks in a hushed tone, "It was the snyder cult that did this!"

How much it hurt it is debatable. It did in some capacity. But it didnt need to be R rated was the strangest part. A quick couple edits and that film is PG13 and loses nothing.

This is embarrassing for Gunn at this point. Let it go and move on.

Its easier to act like absolutely nobody enjoyed the first film. But you're right. A lot of people liked the Harley and joker romance, just like they enjoyed the soundtrack and general aesthetic. There was a lot of factors for why SS did so well including the trailers. The diversity in the cast as well. And almost all of that was dumped and they buried the joker/harley romance. It was a bad film, but there was definitely stuff in it that people enjoyed and the "sequel" tossed all of that out. I'm sure it's a great movie and I cant wait to see it this weekend but between the mediocre trailers, bad marketing, no attempt to refine and maintain things in the first film and the confusing is it a sequel or a reboot nature and on top a hard r rating when the first wasnt I dont think everything can be solely blamed on the original and it shouldnt be a surprise it wont perform well. DC would have probably been better off just doing a hard reboot instead of this strange attempt of trying to pick out certain aspects to keep and toss while explaining nothing. MCU built its brand by long term pay offs and fitting the pieces together and its now what the audience expects. DC is giving 0 pay off to anything and just throwing shit at the wall while not really caring about their audience.

Looks like they understood what audiences enjoyed about the first and doubled down. Looks like it will be entertaining, cant wait to watch. Venom was often very campy in the comics.

You seem upset about BW and JC being slighted in some imagined way. I'm not seeing the double standard but that's fine. We can end this conversation here no need to keep going.

I wasnt a huge fan of the film, thought it would be in the bottom half of his films but I'm really happy it has been a success. Horror seems to be doing well for itself still between this, conjuring 3 and quiet place 2

The article discusses both domestic and worldwide.

What spin? One movie has made more money than the other by a significant amount. "Take away this money it's made and they're the same amount" is not an argument. We will see what BW makes when it gets a China release.

I'm not forgetting. Just saying the numbers are what they are. A movie that has made $300M more of course isnt going to be viewed the same. Why would it be?

F9 is at $642M WW BW is at $343M WW With similar budget and circumstances. Maybe that's why one is seen as a success and the other isnt.

Thanks. Hope it keeps climbing. I've got my tickets for the Saturday!

Has there been an uptick since the great reviews? Really want this to do well. Would be pretty sad if this comes in below BOP.

What's with your Snyder/snyder fandom obsession? You keep bringing them up from thread to thread.

Has there been any kind of uptick for TSS since reviews came out?

I mean even stuff like Nick fury sitting in a chair in a normal looking bedroom and the whole room will be green screen and the gun in his hand too. Stuff that could have easily been filmed on an actual set with a prop gun.

You ever seen those behind the scenes shots of MCU films? Its shocking how much of it is CG/green screen.

Reviews are higher than I was expecting. I was thinking high 70s. Glad to be wrong. Hopefully we see a bump in pre sales because of this!

I believe they did give some huge number like that for total views across places that cant be tracked by us. The youtube views are pretty low at the least cant say for other places.

The trailers havent been very good. I was sold better on the film by that first look behind the scenes video they did.