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They're also completely giving away the game. Once you start arguing that Marvel shouldn't have made Black Panther it's clear that they don't actually care about making Marvel profitable. It's just about bigotry.

Not surprising, Perlmutter was the reason why it took so long to get Black Panther and any female-led movies off the ground. What is surprising is that Peltz is so blatant about it. The fact that Black Panther still upsets them even though it made a ton of money really shows what this is all about. Also notice how Peltz said that he has nothing against women (I doubt that) but didn't even bother saying that regarding black people?

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1. If the movie recoups its budget+marketing in theaters then everything that comes after that (PVOD, streaming, home video) is more or less pure profit. 2. Villeneuve is not walking away. And he himself is in no rush to make Messiah so does it really matter if the movie gets announced now or in a couple of months?

I'll be happy if Dune Part Two reaches 700M worldwide. Would recoup production+marketing budget with theatrical gross alone.

Legendary also had nothing to do with Blade Runner 2049. Blade Runner was a Sony and Alcon Entertainment joint.

Warner didn't finance the film. They simply distributed it in North America.

I don't have any anti-Dune bias, I'm a fan of both movies and would love for them to keep making more.

Sure but should we really count that if both divisions are owned by the same entity?

Blu-ray sales are a pittance at this point and there's really not a lot of money in streaming if the movie goes to a streaming service owned by the same company that produced the film (no money from a licensing deal).

This right here. They easily spent 150M on marketing Dune Part Two so the breakeven is probably around 700M.

Which is interesting because they actually got this into production fast (the movie was ready to go just 2 years after the first released) and the budget is not substantially bigger (especially if you consider that all the leads probably got a pay rise).

You're not confusing him with Brian Cox by any chance?

He really wasn't in this one though. A very subdued performance form him. Not sure if it's because of VIlleneuve's direction or because Walken is getting up in years (correct me if I'm wrong but I haven's seen him in anything in quite a while).

The last 30 minutes feel very rushed.

How I imagine the Emperor reacting if he ever listened to those recordings by Princess Irulan.

Really don't think that conflict will be determined by a single battle. At the end of the film Paul unleashes the war that will kill billions. The movies are going their own way with this.

But he's still himself at that point. Once he gains total prescience from drinking the water of life is when we see a real change in him. "We're Harkonnens. So this is how we'll survive. By being Harkonnens." Because he can see all the possible futures he realizes that the only way for them to come out on top is to embrace their manipulative villainous side. In the novel Paul still feels conflicted about what he must do but we don't get that in the movie at all. After that point in the film we're no longer privy to his thought process. We only see him through the eyes of his followers and Chani.

They cut out a lot from the book and in the novel he doesn't come off this villainous. So your confusion is valid.

I would imagine that in order for Paul to be able to bring about the paradise that the Fremen have been waiting for then they'd need to achieve control over the entire Imperium so that part tracks but it's a massive change from the books that if taken to its logical conclusion would completely alter the plot of Dune Messiah.

I accept your point about Chani, she probably would have walked away even if Paul wasn't going to marry Irulan (although that seemed like the clear tipping point for her), at least in this version of the story. And I guess the great houses could refuse to accept Paul as the new emperor (although given the fact that in this feudal society warfare between houses is permitted, in this case between the Artreides and the Corrino, then I'm not sure if any of the other houses would have any moral objections to what has just happened), But Paul then immediately telling the Fremen to kill all that oppose them without even taking the time to explain to the great houses what exactly has happened is wild. And if he chooses that path then marrying Irulan becomes pointless. At that point he's not gaining power through a political alliance, he's simply using brute force. He becomes a tyrant right from the get-go.

Also, someone on Reddit pointed out how illogical the new ending is. So where the movie departs from the book is when the other great houses refuse to accept Paul's ascendancy to the throne. And there's no reason given. In the first and second movie multiple characters say that the great houses would topple the emperor if they found out the emperor was responsible for the attack on the Artreides. Even in this movie at the very end Paul says that the great houses might be sympathetic to his cause if they find out the truth. In any case, Paul then declares a holy war on the great houses in response. In this scenario there is no need for Paul to marry Irulan because it apparently lends to legitimacy to his claim to the throne. And Chani has no need to run away because she feels betrayed by Paul on a personal level. Villeneuve wanted to set up the jihad immediately, took a shortcut and as a result the ending doesn't make sense.

They made Paul way more villainous here than he is in the books. The movie ends with Paul telling the Fremen to kill all the great houses that do no accept his ascendancy to the throne. This is a big departure from the books. In the books he can't control the religion that grows around him. Here he is the one who personally declares a holy war on the entire known universe.

How did The Marvels drop 79% during its second weekend but Madame Web only 61%? This does not make sense to me.

Testing well, huh? Let' see if Sony lifts the review embargo earlier than one day before release.