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Which really sucks since animation is the only high grossing kind of film that can still pull off leggy runs with consistency today. Would hate to see them start performing like live action ones in terms of legs.

It dropped 70% in its second weekend. C'mon, that's not all the calendar. Let's say the calendar was the 21-23 so we remove Xmas Eve, I fail to see how it makes more than an additional 15m? And even with another 15m, that's still a big 60%+ tumble for it.

The Moviepass logic is that parents who have it aren't taking kids to movies anymore because they don't have moviepass like they do? Can't they use their Moviepass and pay for the kids? Just a bit confused on that.

Because I expect WOM to hit it much harder post holidays.

It's definitely disappointing by Pixar standards. It may come under Cars 2 in admissions, which only puts it ahead of Cars 3 and The Good Dinosaur. I think the opening was good considering I felt the marketing was way too low key and didn't sell the movie well. But the legs and WOM should be through the roof, imo, and instead it appears to be merely "good." May not even beat Tangled's 5 day multi. I really hope it wasn't a certain loony demo of the country that elected you know who that stopped it from reaching its potential, but given the quality of the film - and my own anecdotal experience with moronic comments I heard about it from someone -I kind of can't help but wonder...

It may be more backloaded for now, but once the Holidays end, I fully expect it to hold up worse than R1. So 680 still sounds like a good bet to me.

I always predicted it would do well. But yes, you're definitely right it had a lot of naysayers. I'm just saying it almost had to do well with how everything else besides TLJ has bombed and there aren't any significant November holdovers either (Coco not even making much of a dent). Audiences need more than just one movie for the holidays.

Looking at all the releases for the Holiday, Jumanji almost had to do well by default. Everything else besides TLJ is kinda tanking. Next year's Holiday crop is going to wipe the floor with this year's.

At least not for another 5 months.

I think Sandra does still posses a certain amount of draw power, in spite of the Our Brand is Bombage train wreck.

Maybe they're saying that because it's not shit and actually a return to long lost form for him.

If Paramount were smart, they would put this somewhere like September where it could actually stand a chance. And lmfao at "The Movie" subtitle. What is this, 1998?

TFA's characterization is just aces. Makes up for any structural retread issues.

TFA is easily one of the best blockbusters of the decade. Otherwise, I may actually be inclined to agree with you.

If people are saying SW fatigue is currently a thing, they don't know what they're talking about. Saying TLJ shows signs that it could be a thing in the not too distant future on the other hand is a different story.

I will stand by Moana having had phenomenal near Frozen level WOM. Its Xmas-New Year's performance was incredible considering it had a Star Wars and a huge brand new animated competitor to contend with. Take Sing out and it probably would have flirted with 300. And speaking of Frozen, no animated movie is likely to ever get that lucky again. Literally all of November, all of December, and all of January with nothing eating into its demo. Not to mention prior to its release, the demo had been starved for months of anything notable or appealing.

Jumanji might match Sing's OW. Legs shouldn't be quite as good as that since it doesn't fall as squarely into the kids/family demo, but shouldn't have any problem at all going over 200.

If it dropped 40% today, I shudder to see the Xmas Eve drop. Some movies dropped 60%+ in '06.

That's a decent Sat hold for TLJ. Talk about disaster for PP3. So much for my comment yesterday of it having gotten very lucky with its release date to hit 100+. Looks like it may actually fail to beat the first now.

If? Well I hope you wake up tomorrow.

Might as well just wait until 2021 and establish that 12 year pattern. Then Avatar 5 can hit when he's 103, since we know he's going to live forever.

Even more reason to not go sub 500 DOM for it.

Avatar will be hovering right around $1b adjusted by 2020. People may wanna keep that in mind when saying sub 500.

I don't trust that a Cameron film will go under 50m admissions DOM either (500m by 2020 price guesstimate).

Those are not my numbers lol, those are the numbers I expected from you. I guess with a gun to my head right now I'd probably predict something like 700/1.9B for it.