MovieMan89

Yeah, that's why if there is any backlash or divisiveness, we're only going to see it reflected in the repeat viewing legs post holiday. Through the holiday it's going to play well no matter what, while the massive main episode SW install base see it regardless of reactions.

The film is clearly divisive. Whether or not its "controversial" is maybe debatable for the moment, but this is not going to be like TFA's echo chamber audience reception.

Yes, but how many of those pages were me being generous enough to make the thread an event because I felt so sorry for what a non event it was?

If it beats TFA's Saturday I will be legitimately impressed/shocked. This is not going to the way you think indeed...

Unless it only does $155m and is directed by Gareth Edwards. #stillnotanevent

Holy shit at the Sat #! I think the controversy might actually be helping it for the moment.

Ben-Hur and Ghostbusters are just as big of hits adjusted for inflation as TLK. Didn't see their remakes smashing any box office records. Obviously I'm well aware that's not an apples to apples comparison to TLK by any stretch, but I'm saying that using the original's gross as why the remake "HAS" to gross that much or more is incredibly flawed logic. The BatB live action remake clearly struck some kind of chord with audiences in the marketing. Otherwise it never would have been able to do over twice as well as the animated one did. Again, the young female demo was out en masse for that movie, and people aren't realizing TLK won't have that. It is much more in Alice and Jungle Book's lane as far as demo goes.

See, you just proved my point. People here are calling 400 and 1.1b WW for it "really low." Truly the most overpredicted film I've seen on the board in my 10+ years posting.

To me BatB is to live action fairytales what Avengers is to CBMs or Shrek 2 was for so long to animation: a bar set incredibly high that will take a long time, if ever, to pass. Using it as a comparison for any future live action fairytale is unrealistic, imo. And I still believe people underestimate just how much that tapped into the YA Twilight audience, and how much that boosted it at the B.O. That's an audience that probably won't care much at all about TLK.

About the TLK predictions, I think many here have lost their damn minds when it comes to that one. Truly never seen the board overpredict anything by that much. So many seem to think it will just fly past 600 DOM and 2b WW. I think 400/1.1b is more than good enough to set the goal post at.

I will admit that Friday number is impressive considering the preview to true Friday ratio is much better than TFA's. We'll see what happens today and tomorrow.

I still don't know that I'd expect reception to be great even among casuals, because the pacing is just very sluggish in parts. Nothing like TFA, which zipped right through the runtime.

The trailers were all in that order too, so for the first 3 it was like what movie are we about to watch? Certainly didn't seem like a big blockbuster. ME was super short, but I got a lot of Fury Road vibes from it.

There was really no legacy for SW when ESB came out since it was only the 2nd film. So it would have been impossible for there to be reactions like TLJ about how it ruined the mythology or legacy. It was still building that back then.

Ah yes, that's what those two were called. Lord almighty did Alpha look like a bomb.

The trailers for my showing were just kind of odd. It was some low budget looking high school volleyball movie I'd never heard of and can't remember the name, an Aardman animated caveman film I'd never heard of and can't remember the name, a live action cave man and wolf film I'd never heard of and can't remember the name, Mortal Engines, Alita, JW, and IW. Only IW got a reaction and it was huge with tons of clapping/cheering throughout the whole trailer. Crickets for everything else, JW included.

Do we have a cinemascore yet?

100m does actually give it a slightly less frontloaded preview to OD ratio than TFA. That's something I guess.

I'm predicting TLJ holds similarly to RO through the new year, and then falls off a cliff after that for a 3-3.1x multi. Most interested will likely see it over the holidays, and then I think repeat viewings are going to be hit hard.

Not to mention dissatisfaction in the fanbase for TFA was practically non-existent upon release.

For most of that week it actually looked like it was gonna perform like Avatar on a 250m OW. Was insanity.

I think my favorite part of all of TFA's run was RTH giving us those first Monday numbers. Had an insane 50% gross increase over the previous Monday record and it wasn't even a Holiday.

That's true, John Cena was stiff competition.

A 200m OW would be a 25% admissions decrease from TFA's. That is a pretty huge drop off by OW blockbuster sequel standards. That's why the number isn't exciting.

The 200-210 range is quite literally the most boring it could open to. Not low enough to warrant any kind of meltdown, and nowhere near impressive enough compared to its predecessor to get excited.