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I still don't see what exactly the Academy would go for in MM. It represents the kind of movie they've always completely ignored when it comes to any major noms. Unless they're looking to change their public perception, but that's doubtful. Back to IO, even if TGD is a non-factor (which I doubt if it is taking the Wall-E dialouge light approach), the new voting system is definitely a factor. If it was hard for animated films to get in before, it may be impossible now.
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SW is far more likely than Fury Road given great reception. As I've mentioned before, if TFA beats Avatar at the box office it is nearly locked for a BP nom according to history. I think all of the movies that have done it since Gone With the Wind got a BP nom. If the Academy is going to go with a popular film that has universal acclaim, it will be the one that was a phenomenon. This all assuming TFA gets rave reviews and smashes records of course.
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266m WW on a $100m budget. But then there were marketing costs too. They probably broke even or made a small profit is all. His movies always have too high of budgets for their gross. Actually, The Counselor may be his most profitable one since Hannibal, given it actually had a small-ish budget for once.
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I wouldn't say that. The reviews are certainly on the level of a BP nom, and they like to get one big blockbuster in there. However, I still think TFA is getting it if it's on par with the OT and a box office phenomenon. So if that gets it, then I agree no Martian. They won't nom two sci-fis. But then again, Avatar and District 9....
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Wow, I thought 17 tops. They really did a good job at creating hype the past few weeks. Really Ridley's first unequivocal box office success since Hannibal. Sounds like he stuck to the book though, opposed to throwing in his usual "flair" which audiences seem to be divisive on. Smart on his part if he wanted to keep making big budget movies, especially the Prometheus sequel(s).
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Pretty terrible considering Everest's underwhelming run, but much better opening than this. I do think it is Zemeckis' best since Cast Away. However the big scene is something I could see going both ways for WOM. It is exhilarating beyond doubt, but there are simply some people who aren't going to be able to handle it in IMAX 3D or maybe in the theater at all. So in a weird way it could lead to negative WOM.
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Again, it sounds like WALL-E 2.0. Which quite frankly I'm ecstatic about. Especially if they're brave enough to maintain that the whole film instead of just half of it like with WALL-E. It will also mean though that kids interests in it will be minimized for an animated film, and it will need to live more off of the older audience. Which is possible for Pixar, but probably not all the way to 300.
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The good news is this is very likely to bomb hard domestically. Peanuts and TGD are leaving no room for another kid's movie to do well and the third one bled like 40% admissions from the second. And that was following it up in a timely manner. Now they've waited 4 years in between. I will not be shocked if this misses 50m DOM. Unfortunately OS is still likely to be in the 150-200 range, but hopefully that's not enough for them to want to continue.
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Retro Throw Back: 2005's King Kong- What Went Wrong?
MovieMan89 replied to ExcelFTW's topic in Box Office Discussion
Oh god, don't go there. Even the ridiculous 70's KK tramples Godzilla '98 or '14. -
Retro Throw Back: 2005's King Kong- What Went Wrong?
MovieMan89 replied to ExcelFTW's topic in Box Office Discussion
Wow, checking RT and I actually had forgotten it was that well received by critics. 84% and 7.7 average rating are nothing to sneeze at. It probably would've gotten LOTR level reviews with a half hour chopped off in the first half (and virtually anyone besides Jack Black in the lead). -
Retro Throw Back: 2005's King Kong- What Went Wrong?
MovieMan89 replied to ExcelFTW's topic in Box Office Discussion
What went "wrong" were people's expectations. The movie grossed an adjusted $285m DOM and did 332m OS a decade ago, when that would be more equivalent to double that in today's OS market. It was also well received by critics and audiences in general, even if most people didn't love it and thought it was too bloated. However, people expected it to be like only the third billion dollar grossing film ever at the time and sweep the oscars. Those were ridiculous expectations all along. I do think if the beginning hadn't been so sluggish with such a long run-time though, the movie could have grossed 50-100m more than it did DOM and probably gotten more accolades. -
If the movie is dialouge light and with a tone aimed at potentially more of an older audience, then they are actually being smart to advertise it the way they are. Gotta get the kid's attention some way.
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I went from having super low box office expectations for this back in the early summer to fairly high ones now, although now I'm starting to think maybe I need to lower them again. This sounds like it could be WALL-E 2.0 in a lot of ways, and that won't fly with some kids if that's the case. Maybe 200 is more realistic than 275-300.
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Crimson Peak (10.16.2015) Trailer Page 29
MovieMan89 replied to Neo's topic in Box Office Discussion
75m DOM would be a very good DOM performance. Expecting more than that is silly. OS I'd say it should be pulling a solid 100m to not be disappointing. -
I bet the farm it sure does. But a TA1 to TA2 opening 15-20m lower is certainly possible.
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I certainly don't think The Revenant will do anywhere near the box office expectations people are expecting. There is absolutely nothing about it that looks like a box office hit, save for Leo's track record. Though even he can flop at the B.O. (i.e. J Edgar). Leo + good reviews can maybe take it to like 85m, but I think that's about best case. I think Fassbender will block Leo from his Oscar, because Leo is destined to not be recognized by the Academy until he is either ancient or dead. Inarittu will absolutely not win twice in a row and neither will one of his movies do it, barring the movie being some masterpiece for the ages beyond argument. So all in all, yes Revenant is being very over-hyped and will collapse under some of that weight. It won't win much if anything at the Oscars, and 60-80m seems realistic at the box office.
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May: Maybe Ep VIII if they're really serious with that new release date. Otherwise Infinity Wars 1 and/or 2 June: JW2, otherwise no idea July: Maybe Spider-man if they really play their cards right. Otherwise no idea