MovieMan89

AS needs to stop this now. Seriously. It's not even that good, Lone Survivor was better.

$1.5 for Motdecai now? It might not out-open Blackhat now. That's so pathetic it's almost not even fun to make fun of.

But my whole argument in the first place was that it's nearly impossible for a studio to put out something that high caliber everytime when you have 2-3 animated films releasing a year. The size of the staff would have to be massive to make sure that each film gets the required attention to detail and effort put in. Animation is an exhausting process, three films a year for one studio is a ridiculous idea to start with. At least some people in the studio are being ran ragged by that turnout. Not to mention a studio with that many people and teams is far harder to manage and ensure quality than a normal sized one. We will see it with Pixar and WDAS if they adopt the multiple releases every year, I guarantee it. In fact, we'll probably see it this year already with Pixar.

I don't believe that DWA's films wouldn't be of higher quality if they were only doing one film a year. Yeah Shark Tale sucked anyways, but that's just one movie. And it was still successful. Because the new DWA movie back then had brand name power and a audience awaiting it. Now when they put out 2-3 movies a year all the time, no one cares about the "new" DWA movie because they've run their brand name into the ground. It's overkill, even if all the movies were great. And most of them are at least good in all honesty. The quality isn't even their main problem. It's the oversaturation. And all the other studios will eventually fall victim to that too if they adopt this release strategy.

I disagree. Toy Story 4, LEGO Batman, and DM3 would have absolutely massacred it in summer 2017. Not to mention GOTG 2 and the kid appeal there. Out of those 5, Dragon would've suffered the worst by far. Holiday was also out with Illumination's Grinch likely being a heavy hitter, a Pixar film, and DWA apparently having both B.O.O. and Croods 2 scheduled. Even if they replaced one of those with Dragon 3, there's still way too much competition for it. DWA is better off offering up B.O.O. and/or Croods 2 on the sacrificial altar than this. This still has more potential than arguably anything else on their slate. I guess they could've shot for a March 2017 release, but maybe they don't think it will be ready in time for that? All of 2017 is just one big animation clusterfuck in all honesty. Of course summer 2018 isn't exactly looking barren for animation either already, but it doesn't have three animation juggernauts to directly compete with like it would in '17.

Pixar and Disney need to learn from DWA's stumbles and not start up this two movies a year release strategy. Maybe they can get away with doing that once every 4 years or so, but if they start doing it every year they will end up in the same place with the same problem DWA has. I'm sorry, but I just don't think it's a sustainable strategy for any animation studio. Animation requires too much time and effort, and eventually that release pattern exhausts the potential.

That's crazy good for Sniper off a Holiday Monday. If this thing hits 400 then I officially have no idea what the hell happened with this movie.

Agreed with your second point, but not at all with your first. The only movie released in 2010 near TS3's level was Inception. Even then, inception wasn't a "perfect" film. TS3 is one of the few times I can say that it was nearly a perfect film. Everything was executed immaculately with that movie. And it's not like they were trying to execute something simple either, it had the depth too.

I just realized none of the '00 winners except RotK of course have held up well at all for me. I loved Million Dollar Baby, Slumdog, and The King's Speech at their release time, but now they don't seem that great. Especially MDB. Even The Departed, which would definitely be 2nd of the millennium for me, has lost some of its luster to me too in recent viewings. This decade in particular has sucked. Nothing BP about The Artist, Argo, and 12YAS as far as I'm concerned.

RotK of course is my pick, and it's so far out in the front the other 85 may as well not exist to me. Anyways, Bohood seems ridiculously far out in the lead now for BP/BD. Gonna probably be a long boring month while we wait for the inevitable. Although I will say that the Academy likes to throw a major curveball at least once a decade where they don't award the odds on favorite or a very close competitor. It's been since Crash since that happened, so maybe we are finally due again for a BP upset?

Just waiting to catch 2 movies too, then I'll be ready. Imitation Game and Whiplash for me.

I get it. Besides, a lot of those I'm talking about really are rom-coms, so not exactly the same as flat out comedies.

Yeah just noticed that in your OP. Well they're much before my time too! Can still watch and like them though. In fact, I'd take the 30's-60's rom-coms anyday over modern ones on the the whole.

Dr. Strangelove is the biggest that comes to mind for me. Especially since it should have been more up the Academy's alley than most comedies. Although I could see Baumer hating that one. Philadelphia Story for sure would have won with me too over Rebecca. I adore old rom-coms though (i.e. a lot of the ones with Grant, K.Hep, A.Hep, Stewart, or Lemmon), and I don't understand why they weren't more recognized in their day since many had some of the best scripts and acting of any movies in their time as far as I've seen. I think The Apartment is probably the only time a comedy I really liked actually won BP.

Thor's presence in the first movie is waaay more memorable than Captain America's in TFA. It's definitely the opposite for the sequels though.

Tell them the one that can act is Chris. Unless they've never seen an actor before, they'll know which one that is.

215m or so should be right for AOU's OW. If it opens a lot higher than that then I really don't expect a very good multi.

The trailers make AOU looks so meh to me. This coming from someone who still thinks the first is one of the most perfect popcorn flicks ever. This one just doesn't look like it will recapture that magic though. Unless the marketing is really deceiving. I do think only a standard CBM multi of like 2.5-2.6x or so is likely.

This year feels so exciting right now. Thinking 7 100m+ OWs. TA2, 50 Shades, Furious 7, Jurassic World, Minions, MJ2, and SW7. Possibility of 8 with Spectre. Hopefully they all stay Friday releases. I really hate the Wednesday openers for huge movies.

Blackhat's floppage is far from Hemsworth's fault. He has draw potential, but not is a movie like that. Then again, Hunstman isn't going to be a movie with much appeal either...

Good for you for predicting that high, but I don't think that was really a "reasonable" prediction going into this weekend. Compare it to all other January openings and all other war drama openings like this, and we see that even 50m would have been crazy huge for it. There was no reason to legitimately expect more than 40m given the entire history of this month at the box office and this type of movie at the box office. I think even high 20's would have been a perfectly acceptable prediction prior to that late night number.

Until the actuals come out and AS is about 1.5m higher.

No one should throw stones about box office predictions for AS, or we'd all be bloody beaten pulps. After thinking about it for some time this morning, I can safely say it is THE biggest OW shock in the near 15 years I've followed box office. SM1 and TA don't even compare to me. At least those were huge blockbusters aiming for the sky.

Well we now know it was 63% over 25 and 57% male. So clearly not a true 4 quad hit. Which again, makes its blockbuster performance more impressive not less.

I can't imagine many kids and teens even want to see it anyways. It's gotta be a very older skewing film. Which makes its performance even more impressive.