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So, you think we should have the 9 Harry Potter films and the 5 Twilight films in the top 14??? Then, you should see the top 50 adjusted...

POTC4 already did $60m in 2011. Pirates was already expected to do big figures, although not as big as F8. Who knows what will happen now...

Avatar was an anomaly (like was everywhere). 8 Apellidos Vascos sold nearly the same amount of admissions and look the difference in gross. The 3D doping was absurd. The reality is that the market is in fact recovering after very hard years. Last year we recovered the 100m admissions mark, something that did not happen since 2010. I would say that SW8 will fall to maybe €25m.

Another relevant recent grosses: Furious 8: 12,311,312 € - 2,186,152 admissions The boss baby: €10,085,086 - 1,717,814 adm Logan: €6,699,064 - 1,096,790 adm The Smurfs: €6,348,945 - 1,095,394 adm Guardians of the Galaxy: €7,677,852 - 1,362,584 adm Guardians of the Galaxy 2: €6,011,224 - 948,237 adm

Top 50 of all time updated. Beauty and the Beast ranks #38: 1. Avatar: €77,032,767 2. Ocho apellidos vascos: €55,358,673 3. The Impossible: €42,408,547 4. Titanic: €41,615,692 5. Ocho apellidos catalanes: €36,016,871 6. Star Wars VII: The Force Awakens: €33,274,236 7. LOTR 3: The Return of the King: €32,933,303 8. LOTR 1: The Fellowship of the Ring: €31,332,601 9. LOTR 2: The Two Towers: €29,793,649 10. Pirates of the Caribbean 2: €28,272,305 11. Shrek 2: €28,207,541 12. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone: €27,691,316 13. The Others: €27,254,163 14. The Da Vinci Code: €26,782,492 15. The Sixth Sense: €26,556,361 16. A monster calls: €26,539,733 17. The Orphanage: €25,061,450 18. Toy Story 3: €24,985,359 19. Up: €24,922,426 20. Star Wars I: The Phantom Menace: €24,503,065 21. Minions: €24,434,195 22. Finding Nemo: €23,814,431 23. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets: €23,788,452 24. Mortadelo y Filemón: €22,847,733 25. The Hobbit I: An Unexpected Journey: €22,835,320 26. Pirates of the Caribbean 3: €22,830,316 27. Alice in Wonderland: €22,785,941 28. Spider-man: €22,664,597 29. Twilight 5: Breaking Dawn II: €22,467,940 30. Shrek 3: €22,289,164 31. Pirates of the Caribbean: €22,272,915 32. Torrente 2: €22,142,173 33. Jurassic World: €21,993,813 34. The secret life of Pets: €21,839,854 35. Ice Age 3: €21,800,259 36. Inside Out: €21,793,018 37. Agora: €21,391,198 38. Beauty and the Beast (2017): €21,307,420 (May 7th) 39. Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull: €20,911,726 40. Troy: €20,535,744 41. The Lion King: €20,365,244 42. Twilight 2: New Moon: €19,991,270 43. Harry Potter and the Globet of Fire: €19,874,235 44. The Sea Inside: €19,837,473 45. 50 shades of Grey: €19,791,214 46. Gladiator: €19,719,916 47. The Incredibles: €19,521,020 48. Torrente 4: €19,356,588 49. Ice Age 2: €19,336,362 50. Twilight 4: Breaking Dawn I: €19,298,888

I had not noticed you have Fiesta del Cine too So, it started last year and May was quite bigger than Autumn edition? We have the opposite scenario here. The record is hold by the last October edition with 2.6m admissions (this week barely 1.5m).

I think it has quite chances. SW8 will fall, but maybe to 24-25 million. And among Hollywood blockbusters there is no one with such potential until the end of the year, excepting maybe DM3, since Illumination is the biggest animated brand here, but it will be hard for it to reach that amount. And there is always the local surprise. Maybe the new Tadeo film or another hit like Ocho Apellidos... films were. Who knows...

21,307,420 € 3,567,936 admissions Data until May 7th included

Not only no improvement. It could drop in both Yuan and dollars...

So it can drop even in Yuan relative to first part (596m if I am not wrong)

That means 690m Yuan. Some people here are saying 600-650 range, so not likely.

Fiesta del Cine total: 1,479,463 admissions. That is about a 13% lower than last May edition. The football match has obviously affected. Anyway, good boost for every film.

We are having the usual Spring edition of "Fiesta del Cine" with €2.90 tickets Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday. For the moment, 934,464 admissions sold during Monday and Tuesday, what means a 8% lower than 2016 May edition. Still, a good number. I do not think we will have very good numbers today because there is a Champions League semi-final match between two Spanish teams and many people will be watching it. The ranking is for the moment (no data available for each film): 1. Guardians of the Galaxy 2 2. The Boss Baby 3. Furious 8 4. The Circle 5. The Lost City of Z

I am already questioning when Dangal dailys will be higher than Guardians'. Yesterday, we had Dangal 34m vs GOTG 96m (according estimates posted here), so Dangal did a 35% of GOTG day. Today it is, for the moment, 14 vs 27 (according cbooo), so Dangal day is a 52% of Guardians' day. Probably GOTG is more a weekend film, but the gap is narrowing very quickly.

This. I love to see how unknown films are able to make this kind of excellent run and challenge the big Hollywood releases. And it does not matter if it happens in China or wherever. I like that standards and prefixed premises can be broken because if every film grosses what it is supossed to do this would be veeeery boring. And if the film that makes this is a good film (according reception and WOM, this seems to be the case), even better.

IMHO, quite predictable run. The drop is not impressive, but not hard either. We already said this last Sunday. This weekend drop is probably bigger than usual because of last weekend holiday. Both lovers and haters can keep playing the game, but at the end the result will be the same. High 400s OS, maybe 500 (result repeated since last Sunday several times), and 800s WW, lower or higher depending on DOM legs.

That low multipliers are becoming usual, not only for F8. GotG2 could just make a x2 multiplier with a 4 times lower opening.

GotG already did 600m Yuan 3 years ago. Nobody has talked about F8 figures, but it was legitimate to think it could challenge 900m-1 billion. To increase 100-150m Yuan in 3 years is a bit disappointing (now the market is flat, but in 2014-2015 period it still was increasing a lot). Sequels tend to make better numbers than original films (even more when GotG1 was very well received) and now there is a chance it finishes behind Dr. Strange (it is all about WOM and legs). And you mention BatB... BatB had lower potential than GotG2 in China because the genre of each one. Not a good example.

480-500 OS. And let's say 350-370 DOM. IMO, it seems headed to mid-800s.

April 28th - May 4th: 1. Justice League 2. Guardians of the Galaxy 2 3. Wonder Woman 4. Dunkirk 5. Blade Runner 2049 6. War for the Planet of the Apes 7. Coco 8. Star Wars VIII 9. Murder on the Orient Express 10. Black Panther

Difficult, not impossible. We should wait to see next weekend numbers since the OW has not been usual because holidays in some countries.

I am on the other side. I think $950m is low for Mulan. China should devour it. IMO, Mulan could fly, even easily, over 1 billion.

Sure. I have no problem with that. I will not say I do not see the films they do. I adore (most) of Pixar, I love Star Wars (although I think the new films are far from the original) and I enjoy some Marvel films. I would prefer another model, but I will continue consuming Disney.

This can be an endless debate. I obviously understand why Disney is making what they are making. This is business and they are here to earn as much money as they can, even more after the enormous investments they did acquiring LucasFilms, Pixar, Marvel,... But even if they make 1 or 2 original films per year, my feeling (and I guess of many others) is that they have become mainly a franchises/sequels/reboots/remakes factory, exploiting the ideas they have bought or the ideas they already had X years ago. Nothing wrong with that, absolutely legitimate, but I would prefer another thing. Probably, I am too idealistic, but they have lost the magic they had. Of course, this is strictly my opinion.

Remembering this to put into perspective figures... Not usual weekend. If extrapolating, this is a $175m OW everywhere WITH SOME HOLIDAYS, I see hard the 550 number that it is being said. Not impossible but really really difficult. In the same sense I do not think it will fail reaching 440. The problem I see is the sequel condition, to be frontloaded. SH sequels tend to have bad multipliers, and it does not matter if it is well received or not (Civil War an BvS are good examples). Over x3 multipliers seem reserved for original films. Add that reviews do not seem to say it is better than first one (I have not seen it). IMHO, 480-500 seems a likely range.