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Both Monday and Tuesday SW7 figures are the best Monday and Tuesday. If WW2 is able to beat both numbers, it will have the biggest Monday and Tuesday EVER for a movie in a single market holiday and non-holiday, opening and not-opening. It is ridiculous.

It needs 269m Yuan Monday to beat SW7 figure. It is at 243m right now and still 3 hours to the end of day...

Am I reading 4b? So, does this thing have a (slim) chance to reach $600m? Edit: I have just noticed WW2 is making in dollars what WW1 did in yuan...

It seems hard, but let's wait to China. Maybe...

Episode IX The prequel trilogy can be a good example. TPM already opened massively. It had the problem to open on Wednesday, but that OD adjusts to $50m without 3D and in less than 3,000 theaters. Even with that opening it was able to manage a $113m OW (adjusted) in the same amount of theaters. It was a monstruous opening. Like SW7 was. Well, after (IMO) TPM and Episode II deception, ROTS was able to set the OD record on Thursday ($70m adjusted, and again, without 3D). After that, a $150m OW and $220m 4-day opening in 3,600 theaters, 500 less than TFA. Some can say ROTS was the link film between prequels and Episode IV, and it had lots of nostalgia moments, but Episode IX will be (I guess) the closure of a 42 years saga. And it will be Summer. That OW will be gigantic. If SW9 is not able to do it, then we will have to wait maybe a decade until inflation can approach the big CBMs to that level. I do not see any other announced candidate.

Taking out the animated films, which use to have way better multipliers, this is a club with the biggest DOM film, the biggest WW film and a Clint Eastwood film. 3 gods and, now, a goddess.

Not only Interstellar. Inception ranked #5 in 2010, with 462m Yuan. And by the way, Interstellar ranked #5 too in 2014... China loves Nolan.

Well, Dawn of... did over 700m Yuan 3 years ago, so logic says yes, $150m or 1 billion Yuan is possible. But considering that franchises do not increase as they used (GOTG has increased barely 100m in 3 years and TF5 has fall considerably), I do not see it as likely as one could think. Maybe 800s million could be a more reasonable target. And it depends a lot on release date... There are several experts here who can give a way better point of view about this...

I can agree with some parts, but I still do not think that comicbooks are a part of our culture, or at least, not an essential part. The fact that we are being invaded by 6-7 films a year about the same genre do not automatically imply that every country has adopted that product as something as its own. You need something more. I see it more like an imposition: producers insist on this kind of products and Latin America and Asia have bought it, but Europe still not. GA have started to know these characters (beyond Superman, Batman and Spider-man) just 9 years ago with Iron Man. And the popularity has obviously increased along these years, but not enough to match other characters, way more loved in Europe. Maybe unknowledge, maybe prejudices make CBMs films to be not attractive for European people. And the OS figures are a clear proof of it. Will CBMs be part of our culture within some years/decades? Maybe, and it is even probable. But for the moment I see them as a secondary part of our habits. But I do not think there is anything wrong with it. Just different tastes.

I think it has a very simple explanation: Europe do not love superhero films like US do. Those are characters created in USA. It is a very local product. They adore them and now they are trying to expand. I do not know why Asia and Latin America love this kind of films more than Europe. But in the same way, you can ask yourself why you would not expect enormous figures from Asterix or Tintin in USA or Asia, for instance. Just tastes. Europe is not as excited by this kind of films as other parts of the world, and I think that is quite clear since a long time ago. For this reason, I do not get why people are surprised about WW behaviour. Europe prefer other franchises (Middle Earth, Harry Potter, Bond, ... franchises which are not so loved in other parts of the world). Not everything can be loved everywhere.

I do not see the behaviour of WW too bad comparing it with other CBMs. Excluding China, it has done $274m so far, and I guess it could approach to $300m. Without China, Winter Soldier did $339m (already a sequel and after Avengers) and Guardians of the Galaxy $343m, both with better ER and very well received too. Maybe the great DOM run makes European runs look poor, but I do not think these European runs are much worse than for other CBMs cases.

@Jason Amazing chart

Last data are from February. Since then, ER have improved. I have not done the exercise, but I would not be too surprised if Minions today OS gross is close to the original figure. At least, very close to $800m. Taking $800m and applying that 16% drop, we would be talking about $672m without taking into consideration the probable Chinese increase of about 25-30 million relative to Minions.

Pretty agree with those numbers. Minions were everywhere 2 years ago here (and I guess in most of countries). Children love those adorable bastards. And even although several countries seem to be falling relative to Minions films, I guess that the final OS figure will still be very good, even more when China presales seem to head the film to $100m territory (DM2 did $50m and Minions around $60m if i remember well). If Illumination wants, we will continue having DM/Minions films.

Exactly like me

Yes. It could even go lower.

I think Mulan could be as big in China as Beauty and the Beast has been in USA. The obvious lack of appeal relative to Jungle Book or BatB in other OS markets can be compensated with China, where I think it can make absurd numbers. Of course, it is just a personal feeling. And I assume this prediction with the same quality level than Jungle Book or BatB. I need more information about this to confirm my theory.

Too early, but with current calendar I say 3 films: Infinity War Jurassic World 2 Mulan

At this point and, unless something strange happens, I have already asumed that to reach TF4 Yuan gross is becoming hard. This franchise seems too fan headed to dismiss the meh presales data. Considering that the film seems to not have too much action and with runs more and more frontloaded, I am not too optimistic.

I say 5 films: Beauty and the Beast F8 Despicable me 3 Justice League Star Wars 8 I have some doubts with DM3 and JL, but I trust in first DM3 figures and in WW effect. SW8 is obviously locked. Edit. TF5 will not go so far. TF4 did $1.1b thanks to very favorable ER. And Chinese presales do not seem to be very promising (if we consider that not promising is to make "just" around $300m). I even doubt it can make $900m.

$41.3m means under 30% drop. This is so absurd... I am starting to see the SM1 run as a mirror for this. After 2nd weekend, SM1 was at $223m and WW was at $206m, so $17m gap. With the $41m wknd, WW is already at $275m which means just $10m behind SM1 at the same point. $7m recovered during last week. I am not saying this trend will continue, because WW has to face TF5, DM3 and Spidey. But even with that competition, I think that $400m is already the target. It is going to be really hard, but WW has already proven that can make incredible things. What an exciting run...

With a $40m 3rd weekend, WW is dropping a 61% relative to OW, better than the 69% that BvS dropped on its 2nd weekend...

Not so good. Last year, all Deadpool, BvS, Civil War and Suicide Squad did about 10-12m euros in Spain. In terms of market size it equates to about $200m in USA. Decent numbers, but nothing spectacular.

Sure. It is just that talking about daily cumes, WW had been always behind MoS. Since today, WW is already in front. I think WW is making, at least, $350m Applying a identical run than MoS from this point, asuming $8.5m Tuesday (+35% from Monday) and considering that MoS did $72m from second Tuesday, WW would already finish with $338m...

I think he means that WW will have grossed more than MoS after 13 days. By second Wednesday, MoS was at $223m. WW DOM will probably be higher than that amount on Wednesday. In fact, it is more probable that WW can outcome MoS today. If it is able to increase a 35% relative to $6.3m Monday, it will gross $8.5m today, so total after Tuesday will be $221.1m (206.3+6.3+8.5). MoS was at $219.8m. WW is outcoming MoS today...