Indian Box Office Thread | Jawan overtakes Pathaan, becomes highest grossing Indian movie of 2023

[lorddemaxus]

5 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Shushant Rajput commit Suicide. 

Whoa, it's the guy from the Dhoni biopic? Saw a reddit post about this but didn't realise until I saw the picture above. That reddit post also talked about how the Bollywood industry (a smear campaign or something) is the reason he killed himself. You know anything about that?

[charlie Jatinder]

25 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:

That reddit post also talked about how the Bollywood industry (a smear campaign or something) is the reason he killed himself.

That is basically sensationalising the issue.

 

SSR was said to be delusional & ambitious but no time to talk about such stuff.

 

 

[ZeeSoh]

Was quite shocked when I read this as soon as I woke up  Such a talented person with a promising future ahead. 
 

I was also quite shocked to see images of his dead body being circulated on the net. And the coverage by Hindi news media was pathetic and insensitive

[MaxAggressor]

Family Fare Awards 

 

[charlie Jatinder]

On 4/30/2017 at 1:44 PM, titanic2187 said:

I agree, why must a box office tracking be so complicated? the net gross from tax and rental gross are the most annoying figure that dwarf the spectacular performance from indian movies in the eyes of world

it used to be share (rental) and gross prior to 2000. in fact in telugu industry share is still the figure they track. indian box office though complicated on outside view is pretty comprehensive when you are into it.

[charlie Jatinder]

On 5/1/2017 at 7:52 AM, DeeCee said:

AUD1,410,298 for Baahubali 2 in Australia for #3.  The Hindi Version has AUD842,391 for #4 and the Tamil/Malayalam/ Telegu versions had a combined AUD567,907.  I suspect that's around double the previous best opening for an Indian film.

 

https://numero.co/reports/2017/05/01/galaxy-goes-gangbusters

actually it was 2.4mn as telugu version wasnot reported which did around a$950k.

[charlie Jatinder]

On 5/1/2017 at 10:12 PM, Premium George said:

So which country has highest grossing movie in that country?

China: $848mn Wolf Warrior 2 (But this includes ticket booking charges, without that $794mn)

USA: $839mn Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Japan: $250mn Frozen

India: $209mn Baahubali 2

[charlie Jatinder]

Since I wasn't here during Baahubali 2, just to give hint of what it was, here's its 10 weeks dailies in India.

 

Day	Date	Daily	To Date	% +/- YD / LW*		Daily in $	To Date in $	Day #
Fri	28 Apr 2017	₹136.21	₹136.21			$21,184,000	$21,184,000	1
Sat	29 Apr 2017	₹105.55	₹241.76	-22.51%		$16,415,000	$37,599,000	2
Sun	30 Apr 2017	₹117.82	₹359.58	11.62%		$18,323,000	$55,922,000	3
Mon	01 May 2017	₹104.05	₹463.63	-11.69%		$16,207,000	$72,129,000	4
Tue	02 May 2017	₹75.15	₹538.78	-27.78%		$11,706,000	$83,835,000	5
Wed	03 May 2017	₹64.40	₹603.18	-14.30%		$10,031,000	$93,866,000	6
Thu	04 May 2017	₹56.55	₹659.73	-12.19%		$8,808,000	$102,674,000	7
Fri	05 May 2017	₹48.78	₹708.51	-13.74%	-64.19%	$7,586,000	$110,260,000	8
Sat	06 May 2017	₹62.88	₹771.39	28.91%	-40.43%	$9,779,000	$120,039,000	9
Sun	07 May 2017	₹80.02	₹851.41	27.26%	-32.08%	$12,445,000	$132,484,000	10
Mon	08 May 2017	₹42.61	₹894.02	-46.75%	-59.05%	$6,606,000	$139,090,000	11
Tue	09 May 2017	₹38.92	₹932.94	-8.66%	-48.21%	$6,034,000	$145,124,000	12
Wed	10 May 2017	₹38.28	₹971.22	-1.64%	-40.56%	$5,935,000	$151,059,000	13
Thu	11 May 2017	₹30.22	₹1,001.44	-21.06%	-46.56%	$4,693,000	$155,752,000	14
Fri	12 May 2017	₹25.37	₹1,026.81	-16.05%	-47.99%	$3,952,000	$159,704,000	15
Sat	13 May 2017	₹35.13	₹1,061.94	38.47%	-44.13%	$5,472,000	$165,176,000	16
Sun	14 May 2017	₹41.70	₹1,103.64	18.70%	-47.89%	$6,495,000	$171,671,000	17
Mon	15 May 2017	₹20.15	₹1,123.79	-51.68%	-52.71%	$3,144,000	$174,815,000	18
Tue	16 May 2017	₹18.07	₹1,141.86	-10.32%	-53.57%	$2,819,000	$177,634,000	19
Wed	17 May 2017	₹16.16	₹1,158.02	-10.57%	-57.78%	$2,521,000	$180,155,000	20
Thu	18 May 2017	₹14.94	₹1,172.96	-7.55%	-50.56%	$2,306,000	$182,461,000	21
Fri	19 May 2017	₹11.05	₹1,184.01	-26.04%	-56.44%	$1,713,000	$184,174,000	22
Sat	20 May 2017	₹15.77	₹1,199.78	42.71%	-55.11%	$2,445,000	$186,619,000	23
Sun	21 May 2017	₹20.32	₹1,220.10	28.85%	-51.27%	$3,150,000	$189,769,000	24
Mon	22 May 2017	₹9.91	₹1,230.01	-51.23%	-50.82%	$1,536,000	$191,305,000	25
Tue	23 May 2017	₹8.99	₹1,239.00	-9.28%	-50.25%	$1,392,000	$192,697,000	26
Wed	24 May 2017	₹8.22	₹1,247.22	-8.57%	-49.13%	$1,269,000	$193,966,000	27
Thu	25 May 2017	₹8.00	₹1,255.22	-2.68%	-46.45%	$1,233,000	$195,199,000	28
Fri	26 May 2017	₹5.77	₹1,260.99	-27.88%	-47.78%	$895,000	$196,094,000	29
Sat	27 May 2017	₹7.48	₹1,268.47	29.64%	-52.57%	$1,160,000	$197,254,000	30
Sun	28 May 2017	₹9.98	₹1,278.45	33.42%	-50.89%	$1,547,000	$198,801,000	31
Mon	29 May 2017	₹5.29	₹1,283.74	-46.99%	-46.62%	$820,000	$199,621,000	32
Tue	30 May 2017	₹4.84	₹1,288.58	-8.51%	-46.16%	$750,000	$200,371,000	33
Wed	31 May 2017	₹4.47	₹1,293.05	-7.64%	-45.62%	$693,000	$201,064,000	34
Thu	01 Jun 2017	₹4.01	₹1,297.06	-10.29%	-49.88%	$623,000	$201,687,000	35
Fri	02 Jun 2017	₹3.01	₹1,300.07	-24.94%	-47.83%	$467,000	$202,154,000	36
Sat	03 Jun 2017	₹4.02	₹1,304.09	33.55%	-46.26%	$624,000	$202,778,000	37
Sun	04 Jun 2017	₹5.60	₹1,309.69	39.30%	-43.89%	$870,000	$203,648,000	38
Mon	05 Jun 2017	₹2.50	₹1,312.19	-55.36%	-52.74%	$388,000	$204,036,000	39
Tue	06 Jun 2017	₹2.30	₹1,314.49	-8.00%	-52.48%	$357,000	$204,393,000	40
Wed	07 Jun 2017	₹2.16	₹1,316.65	-6.09%	-51.68%	$335,000	$204,728,000	41
Thu	08 Jun 2017	₹1.99	₹1,318.64	-7.87%	-50.37%	$309,000	$205,037,000	42
Fri	09 Jun 2017	₹1.41	₹1,320.05	-29.15%	-53.16%	$219,000	$205,256,000	43
Sat	10 Jun 2017	₹1.88	₹1,321.93	33.33%	-53.23%	$292,000	$205,548,000	44
Sun	11 Jun 2017	₹2.77	₹1,324.70	47.34%	-50.54%	$430,000	$205,978,000	45
Mon	12 Jun 2017	₹1.38	₹1,326.08	-50.18%	-44.80%	$214,000	$206,192,000	46
Tue	13 Jun 2017	₹1.24	₹1,327.32	-10.14%	-46.09%	$193,000	$206,385,000	47
Wed	14 Jun 2017	₹1.10	₹1,328.42	-11.29%	-49.07%	$171,000	$206,556,000	48
Thu	15 Jun 2017	₹0.93	₹1,329.35	-15.45%	-53.27%	$144,000	$206,700,000	49
Fri	16 Jun 2017	₹0.68	₹1,330.03	-26.88%	-51.77%	$106,000	$206,806,000	50
Sat	17 Jun 2017	₹0.93	₹1,330.96	36.76%	-50.53%	$144,000	$206,950,000	51
Sun	18 Jun 2017	₹1.43	₹1,332.39	53.76%	-48.38%	$222,000	$207,172,000	52
Mon	19 Jun 2017	₹0.80	₹1,333.19	-44.06%	-42.03%	$124,000	$207,296,000	53
Tue	20 Jun 2017	₹0.70	₹1,333.89	-12.50%	-43.55%	$109,000	$207,405,000	54
Wed	21 Jun 2017	₹0.61	₹1,334.50	-12.86%	-44.55%	$95,000	$207,500,000	55
Thu	22 Jun 2017	₹0.55	₹1,335.05	-9.84%	-40.86%	$85,000	$207,585,000	56
Fri	23 Jun 2017	₹0.25	₹1,335.30	-54.55%	-63.24%	$39,000	$207,624,000	57
Sat	24 Jun 2017	₹0.40	₹1,335.70	60.00%	-56.99%	$62,000	$207,686,000	58
Sun	25 Jun 2017	₹0.50	₹1,336.20	25.00%	-65.03%	$78,000	$207,764,000	59
Mon	26 Jun 2017	₹0.50	₹1,336.70	0.00%	-37.50%	$78,000	$207,842,000	60
Tue	27 Jun 2017	₹0.43	₹1,337.13	-14.00%	-38.57%	$67,000	$207,909,000	61
Wed	28 Jun 2017	₹0.33	₹1,337.46	-23.26%	-45.90%	$51,000	$207,960,000	62
Thu	29 Jun 2017	₹0.30	₹1,337.76	-9.09%	-45.45%	$47,000	$208,007,000	63
Fri	30 Jun 2017	₹0.20	₹1,337.96	-33.33%	-20.00%	$31,000	$208,038,000	64
Sat	01 Jul 2017	₹0.30	₹1,338.26	50.00%	-25.00%	$47,000	$208,085,000	65
Sun	02 Jul 2017	₹0.50	₹1,338.76	66.67%	0.00%	$78,000	$208,163,000	66
Mon	03 Jul 2017	₹0.20	₹1,338.96	-60.00%	-60.00%	$31,000	$208,194,000	67
Tue	04 Jul 2017	₹0.17	₹1,339.13	-15.00%	-60.47%	$26,000	$208,220,000	68
Wed	05 Jul 2017	₹0.15	₹1,339.28	-11.76%	-54.55%	$23,000	$208,243,000	69
Thu	06 Jul 2017	₹0.12	₹1,339.40	-20.00%	-60.00%	$19,000	$208,262,000	70

[charlie Jatinder]

Comparing Baahubali 2 and Avengers: Endgame dailies.

Day	Baahubali 2	Avengers: Endgame	Ratio
Fri	₹136.21	₹63.83	46.86%
Sat	₹105.55	₹62.22	58.95%
Sun	₹117.82	₹63.00	53.47%
Mon	₹104.05	₹36.26	34.85%
Tue	₹75.15	₹30.75	40.92%
Wed	₹64.40	₹33.19	51.53%
Thu	₹56.55	₹18.74	33.14%
Fri	₹48.78	₹14.69	30.11%
Sat	₹62.88	₹21.63	34.41%
Sun	₹80.02	₹25.65	32.06%
Mon	₹42.61	₹9.33	21.90%
Tue	₹38.92	₹7.89	20.28%
Wed	₹38.28	₹6.40	16.72%
Thu	₹30.22	₹5.76	19.05%
Fri	₹25.37	₹3.18	12.54%
Sat	₹35.13	₹6.47	18.42%
Sun	₹41.70	₹6.20	14.86%
Mon	₹20.15	₹2.67	13.25%
Tue	₹18.07	₹2.26	12.53%
Wed	₹16.16	₹2.00	12.39%
Thu	₹14.94	₹1.73	11.57%
Fri	₹11.05	₹1.13	10.25%
Sat	₹15.77	₹2.29	14.51%
Sun	₹20.32	₹2.46	12.08%
Mon	₹9.91	₹1.11	11.19%
Tue	₹8.99	₹0.97	10.74%
Wed	₹8.22	₹0.95	11.60%
Thu	₹8.00	₹0.89	11.18%
Fri	₹5.77	₹0.52	9.09%
Sat	₹7.48	₹0.83	11.16%
Sun	₹9.98	₹0.81	8.12%
Mon	₹5.29	₹0.27	5.18%
Tue	₹4.84	₹0.24	4.93%
Wed	₹4.47	₹0.23	5.07%
Thu	₹4.01	₹0.20	5.05%
Fri	₹3.01	₹0.18	5.94%
Sat	₹4.02	₹0.37	9.19%
Sun	₹5.60	₹0.42	7.45%
Mon	₹2.50	₹0.14	5.72%
Tue	₹2.30	₹0.13	5.70%
Wed	₹2.16	₹0.10	4.41%
Thu	₹1.99	₹0.07	3.59%
Fri	₹1.41	₹0.05	3.38%
Sat	₹1.88	₹0.08	4.44%
Sun	₹2.77	₹0.08	3.01%
Mon	₹1.38	₹0.04	2.59%
Tue	₹1.24	₹0.04	2.88%
Wed	₹1.10	₹0.03	2.73%
Thu	₹0.93	₹0.03	3.23%

[charlie Jatinder]

On 12/9/2011 at 10:58 AM, spizzer said:

I dislike the "distributor share" method even though its popular with the Bollywood BO community. IMO gross should be the only number of significance. Beyond that, the classification system is another thing that I just don't get. Why classify the degree of success a film has had based on distributor share?

Well Distributor Share is basically OG. The reporting/tracking started from the Distributor/Studio POV, a film may be grossing ₹1cr or ₹0.8cr, what good is that to him, if he is only getting ₹0.4cr SHARE from both. Basically what Producer/Distributor was earning.

 

That's the reason why SHARE is the one which is used to measure success.

Similarily in USA, Disney films have higher SHARE than others, that make them much bigger success for studio than any other studio. Also, China numbers are looked down because they basically gonna get 20% of Gross anyways.

 

Regarding why Nett? Well Nett basically got prominence in late 90s and early 2000s. It was on rationale that let's include Exhibition sector as well for reporting and classification because they are also part of industry. Gross was left yet because Taxes don't come to industry but goes outside industry.

 

In time, with Overseas gross getting bigger, Worldwide gross become a thing, and people started looking at gross as well, though focus is still Nett.

Edited June 23, 2020 by charlie Jatinder

[charlie Jatinder]

On 8/16/2012 at 8:18 PM, grim22 said:

No Hollywood movie will ever get this wide a release nor appeal to the Indian heartland enough to come anywhere close to this number

[charlie Jatinder]

On 2/12/2013 at 9:28 PM, grim22 said:

Is there any independent confirmation of the collections of Vishwaroopam?

In case still interested. I was also curious for Vishwaroopam numbers back in 2013. The internet numbers were huge and I even believed them considering I loved the film. The pan India films we listen more enough now, was limited back then. Anyhow Vishwaroopam was a so-so performer, just managing to breakeven for Hassan. Sequel was much anticipated but was delayed and then turned out to be poor.

I wrote an article for the sequel in 2018 on a portal I was part of

Spoiler

Sequels do well at Indian box office, if not always, mostly they do and when the original is liked, it's kind of surety.

 

Back in 2013, Vishwaroopam did face the heat from extremists and financial issues, giving it a tough release, however the film was mostly able to overcome those hurdles,  grossing over ₹80 crore (inflation adjusted ~₹120 crore approx) at Indian box office. That, however the producers faced loss, created a good awareness for the sequel and ever since then Vishwaroopam 2 was among the list of most anticipated films. So what goes, that it wound up doing less than half of the original at box office.

 

 

For the very first, the five years difference in two films proved to be costly. The hype that the original created for the sequel died a slow death with all those delays the film faced. That’s something which happens in such cases, and it's up to the marketing to make up for that and that's reason two. The film’s marketing material looked dull and cheap compared to the original. Third and most important, it was a bad film, trashed by critics and audiences Salike, scoring an awful 59% at Book My show and there’s no coming back from there.

 

 

The film opened to poor numbers and never really recovered from that, with a flat weekend and then a complete crash afterwards.

 

Territory	Vishwaroopam 2	Vishwaroopam
Tamil Nadu	18.65	44.15
AP/Nizam	4.60	8.60
Kerala	1.06	4.10
Karnataka	3.60	7.05
North India	5.30	17.95
All India	33.22	81.85
Overseas	12.91 ($1.87 Mn)	18.85 ($3.46 Mn)
Worldwide	46.13	100.71

[charlie Jatinder]

On 8/17/2013 at 11:39 PM, druv10 said:

Fake or Grim, do you have an adjusted list or all-time tickets sold? Sholay should be number 1 but what about others? Gadar?HAHK?

Top admits are basically

1. Sholay: 25cr
2. Baahubali 2: 12cr
3. Mother India: 12cr Appox
4. Mughal-e-Azam: 10cr plus
5. Gadar: 8cr plus
6. Hum Aapke Hai Kaun: 7cr Approx

These are top 6. There will be many 5cr plus films in past. Waiting for BOI to update their database, though won't really care about their footfalls as per BOI.

Edited August 15, 2020 by charlie Jatinder

[charlie Jatinder]

On 11/6/2013 at 11:42 PM, jb007 said:

I have been tracking box office since 1978. I have also produced 2 Kannada movies. I have known the difference between Gross and Nett as it relates to Indian movies since forever.

Good but K3 numbers were inflated, actuals are what BOI gave.

[charlie Jatinder]

On 11/27/2013 at 11:47 AM, jb007 said:

That is not true. If the producer officially declares the collections, he will have to abide by it. I will give you 2 instances.

 

Mungaru Male producer had declared Rs. 33 Crore collections and used a lower gross during the tax filing. His offices were raided and he was forced to pay the taxes for the actual he had reported along with penalty.

I know such things happen in South India and recently Bigil had similar case but again, Producers taxation is far far away from gross collection.

One the Entertainment tax back then and GST now are paid by Exhibitor. Producer basically has the rights plus overflow as his revenue.

 

In case of Krrish 3, Roshans sold India rights in ₹55cr and overseas were around ₹10cr. Krrish 3 earned ₹95cr SHARE in India, which means they roughly had ₹70cr revenue from India after paying off commision and Distributor's cut. The nett Sattelite revenue was ₹40cr and other revenues accounted for ₹20cr Approx. The overall recovery was ₹140-145cr against ₹60cr production and release cost.

 

Since Producer, Director and Actor are Father-Son, the income they distributed between themselves will be known to them. Hrithik market value back then was ₹30-35cr per film.

 

Dividing the Krrish 3 Gross of ₹245cr to stakeholders.

 

To various State Government: ₹60cr (Entertainment Tax)

Exhibitors: ₹90cr (They will pay income tax on that after deducting their operating expenses)

Distributors: ₹25cr (They will pay income tax on that after deducting their operating expenses)

Producers/Roshans: ₹70cr (They will pay income tax on that after deducting their operating expenses)

 

Edited June 23, 2020 by charlie Jatinder

[THUNDER BIRD]

1 hour ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Destiny fulfilled..!!

[charlie Jatinder]

On 12/22/2013 at 12:53 PM, spizzer said:

Rth has Saturday at 1.3M.  

 

That's 2.4M in two days, topping Chennai Express's 3 day of 2.2M.  3.5M looks attainable.

It's funny how Dhoom 3 crossed CE's opening weekend of $2.42mn Approx in just 2 days grossing $3.5mn and ending at $8.5mn.

 

Basically Dhoom 3 * 100 is Avengers: Endgame.

[THUNDER BIRD]

On 8/16/2012 at 8:18 PM, grim22 said:

On 8/16/2012 at 7:01 PM, 'keysersoze123 said:

So will Avatar 2 or Avengers 2 or Spiderman movie beat this number.

No Hollywood movie will ever get this wide a release nor appeal to the Indian heartland enough to come anywhere close to this number. Of the future movies, only "A Yash Raj Romance"(Untitled), "Dabangg 2" and "Dhoom 3" have a chance to break this.

On the contrary, no Bollywood movie in near or more than near future will come close to the magnitude of a movie known as "Avengers EndGame".

[THUNDER BIRD]

2 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

It's funny how Dhoom 3 crossed CE's opening weekend of $2.42mn Approx in just 2 days grossing $3.5mn and ending at $8.5mn.

 

Basically Dhoom 3 * 100 is Avengers: Endgame.

Where did D3 crossed CE weekend in 2 days??

[charlie Jatinder]

6 minutes ago, THUNDER BIRD said:

Where did D3 crossed CE weekend in 2 days??

USA.