peludo Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Agree with Lordmandeep. TA2 can increase 150 million just in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Based on iM3 performance, there is a lot more growth in developing markets. Give some numbers... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Agree with Lordmandeep. TA2 can increase 150 million just in China. Avengers is no Transformers. However, i agree that it will probably increase a lot given that it "only" made about 80m there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I asume 200-250 in China. And Marvel is not the same than 3 years ago. IM3 did nearly the same OS than TA. And considering the WOM of CA2 and Guardians, I have a very good feeling with OS numbers of this. Even although I think it will drop domestically (about 550), OS numbers will be monstruous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 AOU might top $1b OS but won't go much further. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted November 8, 2014 Author Share Posted November 8, 2014 Best case scenario Your best case scenario over in America would be: $250 million $110 million ($420 million) $60 million ($510 million) $35 million/$43 million ($571 million) $20 million ($599 million) $13.5 million ($621 million) $7 million ($633 million) $4.5 million ($641 million) $3 million ($646 million) $250 million OW $654 million DOM total Pretty mediocre legs, but a slightly higher DOM total. If it's ESB quality, I could see it. $550-575 million is much more likely though since it's going to be significantly darker and less humorous than Avengers 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I have TA2 locked for billion OS and managing Titanic's OS original run 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I have TA2 locked for billion OS and managing Titanic's OS original run That means you have it locked for 1.25B OS? That's hardly a lock. In fact, I don't even think it's likely to go that high. That would be 350M+ over it's original run. 150M at max will come from China. That still 200M short. You're banking on massive increases everywhere and I don't see that happening. Europe will increase, but not by much. Let's say 50-55M or so. LA and Asia without China must bring in 150M over TA 1's run in those territories, and that is A LOT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted November 8, 2014 Author Share Posted November 8, 2014 That means you have it locked for 1.25B OS? That's hardly a lock. In fact, I don't even think it's likely to go that high. That would be 350M+ over it's original run. 150M at max will come from China. That still 200M short. You're banking on massive increases everywhere and I don't see that happening. Europe will increase, but not by much. Let's say 50-55M or so. LA and Asia without China must bring in 150M over TA 1's run in those territories, and that is A LOT. Said locked for a billion not Titanic's run. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druv10 Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Give some numbers... IM3 beat TA in Russia, China, SK, HK, France, Taiwan, Phillipines and few others. TA2 definitely has potential to increase in non-Chinese markets. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvikk Lunsj Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 The TA2 should match Titanic OS pretty easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 (edited) I checked some numbers and yeah, it beat it in some markets but only barely, the exception might be South Korea (and obviously China). I don't believe that means AOU will increase a lot vis-à-vis the original, it's more of a sign of IM3 reaping the benefits of Avengers. Edited November 8, 2014 by Elessar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAJK Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 I wouldn't normally do this until January, but since others are already having a go at it, I might as well put in some early predicts (that I'll probably end up changing come 2015). 1. Star Wars: The Force Awakens - $1.5B (590 + 910) 2. Avengers: Age of Ultron - $1.499B (just so SW wins ) (585 + 914) 3. Bond 24 - $1.041B (296 + 745) 4. MockingJay Part 2 - $1.020B (445 + 575) 5. Furious 7 - $895M (295 + 600) 6. Minions - $883M (307 + 576) 7.Jurassic World - $790M (280 + 510) 8. Inside Out - $722M (310 + 412) 9. The Good Dinosaur - $699M (287 + 412) 10. Ant-Man - $670M (240 + 430) 11. Kung Fu Panda 3 - $648M (187 + 461) 12. Tomorrowland - $610M (215 + 395) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 However Ellessar you really think marvel brand is not growing overseas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 IM3 made 30M more than TA in 2013, TA2 will increase more than 100M from IM3. TA 90M IM3 120M CA2 115M GOTG 96M TA2 230-260M Yearly BO is increasing around 40% per year in China, do the math. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 (edited) However Ellessar you really think marvel brand is not growing overseas? You can't grow indefinitely. Avengers is close to the peak of what's possible for the franchise in my opinion. Edited November 8, 2014 by Elessar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 No lol IMO films should be making 1.5-2 billion now with all the market growth overseas. DMC made 1 billion in 2006... It is just that films have not released as globally appealing like those uber blockbuster of days past this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Ultron, Hulkbuster also will help.You know that Chinese love robots movies a la TF movies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 IMO films should be making 1.5-2 billion now with all the market growth overseas. But they ain't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 Ultron, Hulkbuster also will help.You know that Chinese love robots movies a la TF movies. What do you think of Jupiter Ascending? A long range prediction for China? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...