cannastop Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) Edit: List is called off. Not enough interest for short lists. I'll get everyone started. Princess Mononoke (1997) Spirited Away (2001) Akira (1988) My Neighbor Totoro (1988) Zootopia (2016) The Iron Giant (1999) Grave of the Fireflies (1988) Ratatouille (2007) The Incredibles (2004) Frozen (2013) If I get 10 responses, I'll average everyone's choices up and maybe do a writeup for the top 10, a la BOT's top 100. Lists up to 15 choices are preferred. You can do a private message if you'd like. Rules: Ranked lists: 10 points 9 points 8 points 7 points 6 points 6 and beyond get 3 points. Unranked lists: All movies get 4 points. Edited August 25, 2016 by cannastop 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Is this intended to be a "favourites" list or a "best" list? The two lists would probably look a little different for me. Not sure how well qualified I'd be to judge the latter, actually. Either way, I'm probably going to decline making a list for now because there's a bunch of animated films I haven't seen yet that I'm planning to watch in the next 10 days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 6 minutes ago, Jason said: Is this intended to be a "favourites" list or a "best" list? The two lists would probably look a little different for me. Not sure how well qualified I'd be to judge the latter, actually. Either way, I'm probably going to decline making a list for now because there's a bunch of animated films I haven't seen yet that I'm planning to watch in the next 10 days. Do it as your favorites. It's easier. BTW, what movies are you planning on watching? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, cannastop said: Do it as your favorites. It's easier. BTW, what movies are you planning on watching? The Incredibles, Toy Story 2 & 3, Princess Mononoke, The Wind Rises, Howl's Moving Castle. So definitely some potential candidates for top 10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAtGender Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 If I was going to go for historical importance/greatness, it'd probably be something like: 1. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs 2. Toy Story Actually, those are the only two easy ones, because in both cases you've got clear historical precedent for their inclusion: the first feature length animated film* and the first computer animated film. *This actually isn't true. There are earlier features, and The Adventures of Prince Achmed is probably especially worth noting as the oldest surviving feature. However Snow White was the first fully hand-drawn feature that was completed, AFAIK. But what do you select from there? Clearly, there needs to be something Miyazaki, but do you go for his biggest (Spirited Away and Princess Mononoke, likely, but maybe you make the argument for Ponyo) or do you select something earlier like Cagliostro, Nausicaa, or Totoro, because those set the foundation for Ghibli and his later career. And what about the other Ghibli directors? Does Grave of the Fireflies merit inclusion. Further, say we need to note the importance of the Disney Renaissance. What's the inclusion point? The Little Mermaid is first* but what about Beauty and the Beast, which managed the BP nomination? And The Lion King's box office dominance? Which is the most important inclusion. *Or is it? While the Renaissance is often declared to stat with it, the seeds of what became the Renaissance began much earlier, with Basil the Great Mouse Detective. In a way, it's probably down to which people are deemed most important for it being a Renaissance. Alan Menken & Howard Ashman, who started on TLM, or the directors and other people at Disney, like Musker, Clements, and Jeffrey Katzenberg. I don't know. Does anything else from Pixar beside TS1 get in there? Finding Nemo, perhaps. I'm completely in the tank for Pete Docter, but are any of his films historically important enough? Up for it's BP nom, maybe? Actually, what do we do for box office dominance in general. Shrek 2 is a largely mediocre film, but it destroyed records. Does it merit a slot? What about Frozen? What else? Does Akira merit a slot? (I'd say so, but I could also see arguments against it.) What about films that had some not-quite-so-revolutionary but still very amazing technological leaps. Big Hero 6 introduced Hyperion, which is pretty amazing to behold and has definitely caused things. As great as the writing of Zootopia is, it wouldn't have worked so well if they didn't have the tech to pull off the worldbuilding. And everything above is pretty focused on just two countries, the US and Japan. What about others? Even if a lot of animation talent has been focused in those two, there are plenty elsewhere. You've got films like The Triplets of Belleville (France) and The Secret of Kells (Ireland) that are making some pretty strong cases for inclusion, to say nothing of things further back. (Achmed came from Germany.) And what about stop motion? Surely at least one stop motion film has to be considered historically great enough to merit inclusion. But which one? The Nightmare Before Christmas? Chicken Run? Back in the 70s, there was a lot of counter-cultural animation. Fritz the Cat or something else Bakshi might need to be there. (Sausage Party certainly isn't the first to tap that adult animation well.) So, I dunno. It's probably easier to just get personal favorites, few of which would match up to historical importance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 @DamienRoc Thank you for your historical rundown. All the intention is here is for people to list what they think are the best animated features, whatever that standard is. That said, I don't personally put much emphasis on technological advancement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 A top 15 is going to be very hard, would a top 25 be too many? Beauty and the Beast The Lion King The Prince of Egypt The Little Mermaid Tangled The Incredibles How to Train Your Dragon Toy Story The Emperor's New Groove Mulan Spirited Away Ratatouille Zootopia Inside Out Tarzan 16.Wreck it Ralph 17.The Lego Movie 18.How To Train Your Dragon 2 19.Big Hero 6 20.Robin Hood 21.Shrek 22.Toy Story 2 23.Frozen 24.Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs 25.Pocahontas 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted August 18, 2016 Author Share Posted August 18, 2016 (edited) @Kalo I'll give all of the picks 16-25 1 point. Edited August 18, 2016 by cannastop 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 There's a Top 100 Animated List kicking around the forums that we did a couple of years ago. Might be time to do one again Found it: 10 is so limited and I could change my mind next week but I'd also like to see The Little Prince & Kubo first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted August 25, 2016 Author Share Posted August 25, 2016 13 minutes ago, TalismanRing said: There's a Top 100 Animated List kicking around the forums that we did a couple of years ago. Might be time to do one again Found it: 10 is so limited and I could change my mind next week but I'd also like to see The Little Prince & Kubo first Yeah, I guess it would be nice to kickstart that. I'm going to be too busy to do a project that big, so I'll leave it to someone else. Also, I'm declaring this thread a bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvikk Lunsj Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 1. Dumbo 2. Princess Mononoke 3. Grave of the Fireflies 4. Spirited Away 5. Beauty and the Beast 6. 101 Dalmatians 7. Inside Out 8. Up 9. Snow White 10. Lion King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 Toy Story 2 Toy Story 3 Spirited Away Inside Out Princess Mononoke Beauty & The Beast Up The Incredibles Pinocchio Grave of The Fireflies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasmmi Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 On 25/08/2016 at 0:56 PM, cannastop said: Yeah, I guess it would be nice to kickstart that. I'm going to be too busy to do a project that big, so I'll leave it to someone else. Also, I'm declaring this thread a bust. I'd be happy to put together an expanded top 100 countdown thread if you were interested in seeing that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, chasmmi said: I'd be happy to put together an expanded top 100 countdown thread if you were interested in seeing that edit: thank you so much for making the offer! Edited August 27, 2016 by cannastop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted August 27, 2016 Author Share Posted August 27, 2016 @chasmmi I've reconsidered it, and now I think that it would be cool to have the new top 100 animated features list in October. It's not going to be a busy month for movies in general, and we could use some excitement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasmmi Posted August 27, 2016 Share Posted August 27, 2016 28 minutes ago, cannastop said: @chasmmi I've reconsidered it, and now I think that it would be cool to have the new top 100 animated features list in October. It's not going to be a busy month for movies in general, and we could use some excitement. Ok then I will make a new thread... well either later today or tomorrow at least 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasmmi Posted August 28, 2016 Share Posted August 28, 2016 Ok it's done:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...