JJ-8 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Final Scores for Top 15 : * if the film has a * next it then you were the only player to pick said film. # Top 15 # Correct Closest to Films Positions Score Grosses Score Bonuses Total Score 1 Telemachos 11 445,000 100,000 700,000 1,245,000 2 Wrath 11 Moana; Sing 410,000 95,000 550,000 1,055,000 3 Chasmmi 12 John Wick 2* 500,000 115,000 400,000 1,015,000 4 darkelf 11 Rogue One 450,000 50,000 475,000 975,000 5 That One Guy 11 Rogue One 390,000 100,000 350,000 840,000 6 Grey Ghost 11 Passengers 370,000 88,000 350,000 808,000 7 WrathOfHan 11 La La Land 370,000 71,000 325,000 766,000 8 Exxdee 12 Boo! A Madea Halloween* 365,000 24,000 350,000 739,000 9 DAJK 11 370,000 43,000 325,000 738,000 10 Fancyarcher 11 375,000 11,000 300,000 686,000 11 Spaghetti 11 Dr Strange; Arrival 350,000 85,000 200,000 635,000 12 Jake Gittes 11 Fifty Shades 345,000 67,000 200,000 612,000 13 CoolEric258 11 370,000 29,000 200,000 599,000 14 glassfairy 11 Trolls; Hidden Figures* 315,000 49,000 200,000 564,000 15 YourMother 11 350,000 -3,000 200,000 547,000 16 kayumanggi 11 Fantastic Beasts; Arrival 350,000 20,000 175,000 545,000 17 bcf26 10 360,000 -26,000 200,000 534,000 18 sakskidz 11 330,000 7,000 175,000 512,000 19 MovieMan89 11 370,000 -38,000 175,000 507,000 20 DamienRoc 10 280,000 -40,000 125,000 365,000 21 Chewy 10 285,000 -54,000 125,000 356,000 22 JJ-8 9 LEGO Batman 305,000 -58,000 100,000 347,000 23 Blankments 9 220,000 -118,000 200,000 302,000 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ-8 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Overall Pre-Season Score : # User PreSeason Total Bonus (template) Domestic Top 15 Domestic WE Top 7 Worldwide Top 10 Total Grosses And the winner is Assassin's Creed Pre-Season Questions JJ-8's Questions 1 Wrath 3,237,000 10,000 1,055,000 508,000 586,000 215,000 195,000 110,000 530,000 28,000 2 Telemachos 3,075,000 10,000 1,245,000 393,000 593,000 125,000 70,000 150,000 429,000 60,000 3 grey ghost 2,792,000 10,000 808,000 348,000 517,000 100,000 150,000 165,000 642,000 52,000 4 darkelf 2,708,000 10,000 975,000 363,000 570,000 150,000 90,000 20,000 478,000 52,000 5 Chasmmi 2,634,000 10,000 1,015,000 413,000 695,000 140,000 0 20,000 281,000 60,000 6 Jake Gittes 2,620,000 10,000 612,000 368,000 625,000 125,000 240,000 165,000 423,000 52,000 7 Exxdee 2,540,000 10,000 739,000 353,000 565,000 140,000 95,000 150,000 428,000 60,000 8 DAJK 2,505,000 10,000 738,000 323,000 440,000 90,000 205,000 110,000 553,000 36,000 9 glassfairy 2,375,000 10,000 564,000 475,000 399,000 115,000 150,000 20,000 593,000 49,000 10 CoolEric258 2,306,000 10,000 599,000 303,000 496,000 95,000 110,000 95,000 586,000 12,000 11 WrathofHan 2,269,000 10,000 766,000 221,000 459,000 130,000 70,000 110,000 443,000 60,000 12 Fancyarcher 2,201,000 10,000 686,000 368,000 300,000 115,000 195,000 180,000 327,000 20,000 13 That One Guy 2,166,000 10,000 840,000 246,000 363,000 85,000 125,000 95,000 394,000 8,000 14 kayumanggi 2,105,000 10,000 545,000 306,000 326,000 140,000 150,000 95,000 489,000 44,000 15 Spaghetti 2,101,000 10,000 635,000 368,000 256,000 140,000 155,000 95,000 414,000 28,000 16 sakskidz 2,063,000 10,000 512,000 333,000 473,000 120,000 125,000 95,000 391,000 4,000 17 MovieMan89 1,992,000 10,000 507,000 353,000 245,000 155,000 65,000 150,000 447,000 60,000 18 Blankments 1,866,000 10,000 302,000 378,000 194,000 110,000 160,000 110,000 550,000 52,000 19 bcf26 1,833,000 10,000 534,000 323,000 452,000 210,000 65,000 95,000 132,000 12,000 20 YourMother 1,753,000 10,000 547,000 213,000 480,000 65,000 0 -15,000 409,000 44,000 21 DamienRoc 1,689,000 10,000 365,000 221,000 336,000 130,000 90,000 20,000 481,000 36,000 22 JJ-8 1,653,000 10,000 347,000 443,000 4,000 95,000 65,000 95,000 542,000 52,000 23 Chewy 1,296,000 10,000 356,000 241,000 375,000 90,000 10,000 20,000 142,000 52,000 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ-8 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 And finally the whole thing in a table.......... Well done to @Wrath; @Telemachos and @darkelf for winning! Only a mere 13k seperated 1st and 2nd. # User Pre- season Entry GRAND TOTAL PreSeason Total SOTM Total Weekly's Total 1 Wrath YES 4,382,500 3,237,000 623,500 522,000 2 Telemachos YES 4,369,500 3,075,000 724,500 570,000 3 darkelf YES 4,233,500 2,708,000 788,500 737,000 4 Jake Gittes YES 4,184,500 2,620,000 776,500 788,000 5 Chasmmi YES 4,160,500 2,634,000 850,500 676,000 6 grey ghost YES 4,062,500 2,792,000 591,500 679,000 7 Exxdee YES 4,054,500 2,540,000 805,500 709,000 8 WrathofHan YES 3,855,000 2,269,000 821,000 765,000 9 That One Guy YES 3,651,000 2,166,000 891,000 594,000 10 Spaghetti YES 3,632,500 2,101,000 776,500 755,000 11 DAJK YES 3,523,500 2,505,000 577,500 441,000 12 CoolEric258 YES 3,496,000 2,306,000 754,000 436,000 13 kayumanggi YES 3,472,000 2,105,000 659,000 708,000 14 Fancyarcher YES 3,429,500 2,201,000 691,500 537,000 15 DamienRoc YES 3,326,000 1,689,000 883,000 754,000 16 bcf26 YES 3,215,500 1,833,000 667,500 715,000 17 Blankments YES 2,986,000 1,866,000 466,000 654,000 18 sakskidz YES 2,924,500 2,063,000 317,500 544,000 19 JJ-8 YES 2,605,000 1,653,000 367,000 585,000 20 glassfairy YES 2,564,500 2,375,000 49,500 140,000 21 MovieMan89 YES 2,560,500 1,992,000 330,500 238,000 22 YourMother YES 1,713,000 1,753,000 -40,000 0 23 Chewy YES 1,566,000 1,296,000 167,000 103,000 24 Randomjc NO 11,000 0 -40,000 51,000 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 IMO, and as @JJ-8 mentioned, the reason this game was born was to stop people from claiming they knew a film would be a hit or a failure AFTER it came out. The preseason stuff should always have more weight than the weekly questions. I was never as organized as Chas and Jajang, but I tried to make preseason points worth at least double what the weekly questions were worth. The weekly stuff is there to keep the game relevant throughout the summer. But your preseason predictions should always be worth more. I didn't look at the preseason questions this year, but I know at times the preseason questions have gotten out of hand in the winter games....and me and @chasmmi have spoken about this. The amount of preseason questions and degree of difficulty sometimes made it difficult to do them all. But beyond that, I think your top 15 and WW and OW and so on, should always be worth the most. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Congrats to the top three finishers. Good to see you up there @Telemachos Terrific game gentleman....chas and jajang, you guys are absolute machines and I am in awe of you. I know I left the game in good hands. I will be playing this summer. Can't wait. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasmmi Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share Posted March 6, 2017 Congrats to all the winners and apologies for the confusion with the final reveal. The accounting firm execs have been routinely executed as a precaution. Expect to see Summer Game insanity appear in about 18-21 days 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAtGender Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I'm not disagreeing that the preseason should carry a lot of weight, but the degree is kind of overwhelming, considering the amount of effort required to play the game, every week. I mean, I had an exceedingly poor preseason, but it was still was worth (slightly) more than my combined weekly and SOTM score. For Wrath, his preseason was about three times the combined value of his weeklies and SOTMs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 34 minutes ago, DamienRoc said: I'm not disagreeing that the preseason should carry a lot of weight, but the degree is kind of overwhelming, considering the amount of effort required to play the game, every week. I mean, I had an exceedingly poor preseason, but it was still was worth (slightly) more than my combined weekly and SOTM score. For Wrath, his preseason was about three times the combined value of his weeklies and SOTMs. True, but my score was a serious outlier. I managed the weird feat of doing great on the pre-season while genuinely sucking at the weeklies and SOTM. Its kind of amazing, really, how my insight into box office success declined as we got closer to the release dates. Eliminating the last few folks off the list, the average person's pre-season score was 1.7-1.8 times their combined Weeklies + SoTMs. But there's an incredibly wide range. My 2.8 multiplier isn't really that much farther away from the mean than the bottom score of 1.0, and there were at least 4 other people who also managed over a 2.0. And I've certainly seen this go the other way. Iirc, two years ago when I first played the summer game, I was maybe 8th (barely in the top 10) after weeklies and SotM's, and my pre-season questions bounced me to 21st. Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug. That having been said, I don't really have a problem with slightly shifting down the weight of the pre-season scores. Maybe knock off a handful of questions and some of the top 15 bonus categories? I dunno. Honestly, whatever Chasmmi and JJ-8 feel like doing sounds good to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 1 hour ago, chasmmi said: Congrats to all the winners and apologies for the confusion with the final reveal. The accounting firm execs have been routinely executed as a precaution. Expect to see Summer Game insanity appear in about 18-21 days 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Since we're all contributing our two cents, I'd actually be happy with reducing the amount of weekly activity. It's a lot of work to do weeklies with SOTMs almost every week as well -- particularly when some of the bonuses deal with placements below 12th. And while I know that separates the dedicated player from the more casual ones, I know there are people interested in playing but they feel overwhelmed by the amount of work it takes. IMO, I'd be fine with the same amount of weeklies/SOTMs if some of the more esoteric bonuses were pulled back a touch... and I think the Oscar question starts to dabble heavily in non-box-office trends (since not only do we need to predict grosses for the movies, but then predict their reception within the Academy). I know that's not a factor for the Summer Game, of course. Maybe a way to give the weeklies more of a heft would be to increase bonuses for some of the placement questions (sections 2 & 3) as well as increasing bonuses either for the harder individual questions or for the overall number of correct questions. Just spit-balling here. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Please do not get rid of any of the top 15 bonus point opportunities. Wondering if the Fantastic Beast was going to beat Dr. Strange was one of the highlights of the game for me. It meant the difference between me getting the top 5 correct and winning hundreds of thousands of points or Tele and Wrath winning those points. Even though I ended up getting the short end of the stick, it was an incredible moment. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 2 minutes ago, grey ghost said: Please do not get rid of any of the top 15 bonus point opportunities. Wondering if the Fantastic Beast was going to beat Dr. Strange was one of the highlights of the game for me. It meant the difference between me getting the top 5 correct and winning hundreds of thousands of points or Tele and Wrath winning those points. Even though I ended up getting the short end of the stick, it was an incredible moment. I agree completely. There was real drama with how the top five WW played out. And in the last days/weeks of the game, there was a bunch of drama seeing if HACKSAW could hang on to a top 15 spot (it couldn't). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 For the record, I really enjoy the SOTM's way more than the weeklies. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I take full responsibility for the weekly stuff getting out of hand. It started off so innocently and then the weekly and SOTM stuff got out of hand. I personally felt overwhelmed with all of it and it's one of the reasons I stepped down. IMHO (it's not my game anymore but I'm happy to consult with anyone who wants my opinion), the preseason stuff has gotten too big as well, not drastically, but a tiny bit. I look at the game like most of you look at a 2.5 hour Transformers film. It could be trimmed by about 30 minutes and it would be that much better...and you guys know how I feel about Transformers....i love those movies.....just like I love this game. You also have no idea how much effort is given by JJ and Chas. It's a huge task to run this game. So whatever they do, is ultimately how the game will be played. It's their rules and their game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) What if we made the weeklies "monthlies" and kept everything else? Wouldn't that make things much easier for JJ-8 and Chas? Edited March 6, 2017 by grey ghost 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ-8 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Don't forget that we use the winter game as a test bed for ideas which could be incorporated in the more prestigious summer game. Not taking any less away from how hard the winter game is btw. (that's why so many SOTMs were thrown out this year) we always welcome comments on the game, whether it be a critism or something that work. @chasmmi and I are already thinking ahead to how the summer game will look. Now is the time to offer ideas. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That One Girl Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 I have an idea to spice things up: Every week a different person makes a different weekly and a different SOTM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ-8 Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 My thoughts is to keep weeklies but other than specific weeks, we limit the # of questions and points. More so than previous. Also SOTMs go back to being occasional and not due every week. Lol just my 2 cents. Will talk it thru with Chas. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 6 hours ago, grey ghost said: I know. It feels like an eternity to me too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasmmi Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 Also anyone complaining about SOTM and Weekly points not being as heavily weighted as preseasons, I believe there were about 3,000,000 points up for grabs in SOTMs alone this winter. And weeklies also could have got you a total of about 2.3Million. That is over 5 million points right there. You all just failed a lot 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...