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[WittyUsername]

15 minutes ago, AJG said:

 

The tweets were stupid jokes.

 

Going to a pedophillia themed party is just blizarre. How would you even explain that to people?

It was an adult costume party. I’d assume you would explain that the same way you would explain dressing up as Jason Voorhees. Does dressing up as Jason Voorhees make you a serial killer? 

 

[WittyUsername]

15 minutes ago, DMan7 said:

That still is wrong though whether it is in the past or not. And again it brings up my point yet again because the #metoo movement is also bringing up stuff in the past which happened 20+ years ago and people are being persecuted for it as if it happened in present day. Not to mention the issues with Trump which happened in the past "p grabber", paying off prostitutes etc.. which also happened in the past yet he is also being persecuted today for it as well. I don't really want to bring all this politics into this discussion but I'm just using this to highlight the gross hypocrisy and double standards which exists amongst those people who try to take the moral high ground on these issues then immediately do a 360 once it's someone they support. It's all agenda driven IMO and it's either all of it is bad or none of it is. There is no selective bias which should take place here which seems to be happening alot in the USA. 

Trump has been accused of more than just saying “grab her by the pussy”. Also, the paying off porn stars thing is an action that potentially involved illegal campaign payments. That’s why those are receiving so much media traction. 

 

 Anyway, James Gunn isn’t running for president, so that’s not a good comparison anyway. 

[WittyUsername]

9 minutes ago, AJG said:

 

That makes no difference.

 

That is a weird fucking thing to do.

Again, is it any weirder than people who dress up like Jason Voorhees for Halloween? It was a costume party where everyone was an adult. 

[DMan7]

Just now, WittyUsername said:

Trump has been accused of more than just saying “grab her by the pussy”. Also, the paying off porn stars thing is an action that potentially involved illegal campaign payments. That’s why those are receiving so much media traction. 

 

 Anyway, James Gunn isn’t running for president, so that’s not a good comparison anyway. 

Again it's either all of it is bad or none of it is. It shouldn't matter the position of the person in society, they should be held equally responsible as anyone else otherwise you will continue to create a culture and environment where double standards exists on both sides. 

[WittyUsername]

Just now, DMan7 said:

Again it's either all of it is bad or none of it is. It shouldn't matter the position of the person in society, they should be held equally responsible as anyone else otherwise you will continue to create a culture and environment where double standards exists on both sides. 

Different standards should apply to someone who’s running for president versus someone who makes movies. I don’t understand your point. 

 

Besodes, I mentioned in the past that I was split on Gunn’s firing, but comparing the scrutiny he gets to the scrutiny that Donald Trump gets is ridiculous, especially given that Trump actually became President of the United States after some of his old comments resurfaced. 

[Blaze Heatnix]

4 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:

It was an adult costume party. I’d assume you would explain that the same way you would explain dressing up as Jason Voorhees. Does dressing up as Jason Voorhees make you a serial killer? 

 

 

I think your analogy doesn't work, because Jason Voorhees is a fictional character while pedophilia is a very real issue ( even if it's just a party or whatever that event was ). 

 

I think AJG is right and it's possible that Disney knows something we don't, about Gunn.

[WittyUsername]

1 minute ago, Blaze Heatnix said:

 

I think your analogy doesn't work, because Jason Voorhees is a fictional character while pedophilia is a very real issue ( even if it's just a party or whatever that event was ). 

 

I think AJG is right and it's possible that Disney knows something we don't, about Gunn.

Murder is also a real issue, and that’s what Jason Voorhees does. 

[Blaze Heatnix]

Just now, WittyUsername said:

Murder is also a real issue, and that’s what Jason Voorhees does. 

 

Yeah, but he's still a fictional character. Pedophiles aren't fictional characters, they're real people who do real things.

[WittyUsername]

Just now, Blaze Heatnix said:

 

Yeah, but he's still a fictional character. Pedophiles aren't fictional characters, they're real people who do real things.

Unless James Gunn was dressed as a real life child predator, I’m not really seeing your point. 

[DMan7]

4 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:

Different standards should apply to someone who’s running for president versus someone who makes movies. I don’t understand your point. 

 

Besodes, I mentioned in the past that I was split on Gunn’s firing, but comparing the scrutiny he gets to the scrutiny that Donald Trump gets is ridiculous, especially given that Trump actually became President of the United States after some of his old comments resurfaced. 

Trump is just one example, like I've said before there are plenty other examples where people have said similar things Gunn has said and were chastised heavily for it, yet these same people are in support of it now that the shoe is on the other foot and are in defense of someone who they support. This situation is an agenda driven double standard which began with the whole Roseanne situation and the people who were berating her for what she said are now coming to the defense of Gunn which further exposes the double standard. People who support either one of them will also always find an excuse as to why the situation for the one they support is different than the situation with the ones they don't support when in reality they are both wrong. 

[AJG]

And here’s Bryan Singer doing the same thing as Gunn.

 

THIS SHIT IS WEIRD!!!

[Blaze Heatnix]

1 minute ago, WittyUsername said:

Unless James Gunn was dressed as a real life child predator, I’m not really seeing your point. 

 

Child predators are real people who do real things. They can dress as normal/ordinary people. The issue is about a pedophilia-themed party. James Gunn doesn't need to be dressed as a "real life child predator" in order to be considered a child predator. There are many pedophiles that we don't even know they're pedophiles. 

 

Didn't Gunn even have a pedophile as a friend? He was arrested. 

 

Sure, that doesn't prove anything and that doesn't mean Gunn is a pedophile. However, it's still weird.

 

 

[WittyUsername]

5 minutes ago, AJG said:

And here’s Bryan Singer doing the same thing as Gunn.

 

THIS SHIT IS WEIRD!!!

Bryan Singer had parties with actual underage boys. As far as we know, all the people who went to the party Gunn was at were adults. 

[WittyUsername]

7 minutes ago, Blaze Heatnix said:

 

Child predators are real people who do real things. They can dress as normal/ordinary people. The issue is about a pedophilia-themed party. James Gunn doesn't need to be dressed as a "real life child predator" in order to be considered a child predator. There are many pedophiles that we don't even know they're pedophiles. 

 

Didn't Gunn even have a pedophile as a friend? He was arrested. 

 

Sure, that doesn't prove anything and that doesn't mean Gunn is a pedophile. However, it's still weird.

 

 

Were there children at that costume party? If not, using that party as proof of anything is ridiculous. 

Edited August 12, 2018 by WittyUsername

[WittyUsername]

8 minutes ago, DMan7 said:

Trump is just one example, like I've said before there are plenty other examples where people have said similar things Gunn has said and were chastised heavily for it, yet these same people are in support of it now that the shoe is on the other foot and are in defense of someone who they support. This situation is an agenda driven double standard which began with the whole Roseanne situation and the people who were berating her for what she said are now coming to the defense of Gunn which further exposes the double standard. People who support either one of them will also always find an excuse as to why the situation for the one they support is different than the situation with the ones they don't support when in reality they are both wrong. 

It’s not really a double standard if people genuinely explain their reasoning behind supporting one but not the other. 

[AJG]

24 minutes ago, Blaze Heatnix said:

 

I think your analogy doesn't work, because Jason Voorhees is a fictional character while pedophilia is a very real issue ( even if it's just a party or whatever that event was ). 

 

I think AJG is right and it's possible that Disney knows something we don't, about Gunn.

 

Dont forget: Disney Studios fired him, not Marvel Studios. 

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“The offensive attitudes and statements discovered on James’ Twitter feed are indefensible and inconsistent with our studio’s values, and we have severed our business relationship with him,” Walt Disney Company Chairman Alan Horn said in a statement Friday.

That’s a huge difference. They felt so strongly they bypassed the autonomy of their subsidiary to fire Gunn otherwise the statement would’ve come from Marvel. ABC got to fire Roseanne, not Disney-ABC Television Group. Nickelodeon fired the creator of “Loud House”, not Viacom Media Networks.

 

Something was never right with this story.

Edited August 12, 2018 by AJG

[Blaze Heatnix]

2 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:

Were there children at that costume party? 

 

Child predators can go to parties without kids. That doesn't mean they aren't child predators. 

 

Pedophiles don't have to be pedophiles all the time, they're still pedophiles regardless.

 

The real issue is the pedophilia-themed party.  You have a guy that jokes about pedophilia, the same guy also goes to pedophia-themed parties. I wouldn't take it for granted.

 

I think this guy has issues and maybe he needs help. I'm serious. 

[DMan7]

7 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:

It’s not really a double standard if people genuinely explain their reasoning behind supporting one but not the other. 

That's the point, to the person defending someone they will think their reasons are indeed "genuine" and the other people who they are against are "in-genuine" in their reasons. It's all agenda driven towards who you personally support and like, it doesn't matter what the person who you like and support says you will always find a way to defend them even if they are wrong and will always find a way to hate on the person who you don't like or support for doing the exact same things as the person who you like or support. People don't seem to realize that this dynamic is a sub-conscious thing and people tend to always find a way to defend those they like and against those they don't like even if both sides are wrong. It's like the old example, to a mother her son never killed anyone or would do anything wrong. 

Edited August 12, 2018 by DMan7

[WittyUsername]

Just now, Blaze Heatnix said:

 

Child predators can go to parties without kids. That doesn't mean they aren't child predators. 

 

Pedophiles don't have to be pedophiles all the time, they're still pedophiles regardless.

 

The real issue is the pedophilia-themed party.  You have a guy that jokes about pedophilia, the same guy also goes to pedophia-themed parties. I wouldn't take it for granted.

 

I think this guy has issues and maybe he needs help. I'm serious. 

You’re making it sound like he attended a NAMBLA meeting or something. It was a costume party. If anything, the party was making fun of pedophiles. Seriously, this is reaching. You are reaching. 

[AJG]

1 minute ago, Blaze Heatnix said:

 

Child predators can go to parties without kids. That doesn't mean they aren't child predators. 

 

Pedophiles don't have to be pedophiles all the time, they're still pedophiles regardless.

 

The real issue is the pedophilia-themed party.  You have a guy that jokes about pedophilia, the same guy also goes to pedophia-themed parties. I wouldn't take it for granted.

 

I think this guy has issues and maybe he needs help. I'm serious. 

 

I don’t care about the tweets, but if he got fired for the party I wouldn’t have questioned Disney’s judgement at all.