The TRAILER thread : Let's gather everything we know about the release dates of movie trailers here!

[Broadwayfreak66]

5 hours ago, That One Guy said:

I doubt FB2 will have an announcement trailer.  Last one had one cause it was a dormant franchise and they needed to get the word out.  They don’t need it for this one.

They do. And they will. They absolutely need to keep the franchise fresh in people's minds if they're releasing each one 2 years apart.

 

Fantastic Beasts is a new franchise, not a part of a dormant franchise. I don't think people will clue into the fact that this is a new franchise and that a second film is even coming if they don't start marketing as early and as intensely as possible. FB was a success, but the franchise as a whole is a tentative thing still. Also, WB tends to market their franchise blockbusters very early - 1 year early. 

 

Also, the film has a ton of content and a huge cast, I don't think they would wait that long, because it might limit how many characters and how many plot strands get teased. 

 

ALSO, the earlier a film releases official images, the earlier the first trailer is coming. Fantastic Beasts is already teasing new images. 

Edited October 20, 2017 by Broadwayfreak66

[That One Girl]

2 minutes ago, Broadwayfreak66 said:

They do. And they will. They absolutely need to keep the franchise fresh in people's minds if they're releasing each one 2 years apart

 

lmfao.  they don't release announcement trailers for pretty much any other franchise that has sequels regularly.  why would this be any different?  Fantastic Beasts and Blade Runner 2049 are the only recent examples of announcement trailers I can remember, and both were sequels/prequels to films that haven't had a film in their respective series for a while.

[Broadwayfreak66]

2 hours ago, babz06 said:

It's not getting a trailer this early, as someone already said it only had an announcement trailer last year because it was the first one in the trilogy. Warner Bros is using Justice League to launch its big spring films. 

It's not a trilogy, it's a 5 film franchise. Anyone who knows WB marketing knows they market their big blockbusters early. 

 

FB2 is already releasing official images. Whether it's called an announcement trailer or not, the first trailer will come on in late November, likely. 

[That One Girl]

If they release it in March with RPO, that's still 8 months early.

[Broadwayfreak66]

12 minutes ago, That One Guy said:

 

lmfao.  they don't release announcement trailers for pretty much any other franchise that has sequels regularly.  why would this be any different?  Fantastic Beasts and Blade Runner 2049 are the only recent examples of announcement trailers I can remember, and both were sequels/prequels to films that haven't had a film in their respective series for a while.

Did you read my post? The films have 2 years between them. They've already started marketing and inviting people to the set, and they start to wrap filming next month. Whether it's an announcement trailer or not, they're going to use this year to try to market as much as they can for the following year's release. 

 

All their major IP's start marketing early anyways, and Wizarding World is WB's only consistently well-performing property. 

Edited October 20, 2017 by Broadwayfreak66

[That One Girl]

Just now, Broadwayfreak66 said:

Did you read my post? The films have 2 years between them. They've already started marketing and inviting people to the set, and they start to wrap filming next month. Whether it's an announcement trailer or not, they're going to use this year to try to market as much as they can for the following year's release. 

 

They can easily market it starting in late March; it's still 7 and a half months between then and the film's release, which is pretty damn early even by franchise film standards.

[Broadwayfreak66]

2 minutes ago, That One Guy said:

If they release it in March with RPO, that's still 8 months early.

That wouldn't sync up with the schedule for the last film and that's too damn late. They're releasing a teaser trailer a year out, likely to coincide with The Last Jedi

[Broadwayfreak66]

21 minutes ago, That One Guy said:

 

They can easily market it starting in late March; it's still 7 and a half months between then and the film's release, which is pretty damn early even by franchise film standards.

It's pretty early by Disney standards, which has the luxury of not marketing too early. Not for any of WB's, and not for any franchise with 2 years between instalments, and not for a franchise that has yet to introduce its huge audience draws (Dumbledore, Nicolas Flamel, Grindelwald) and not a film that's already started it's marketing 

[That One Girl]

Just now, Broadwayfreak66 said:

That wouldn't sync up with the schedule for the last film and that's too damn late. They're releasing a teaser trailer a year out, likely to coincide with The Last Jedi

 

it doesn't have to sync up with last year's movie.

 

also how is 7 and a half months "too damn late?"  to compare WB films, Justice League had its first official trailer released on March 25 (as in first trailer, the Comic-Con footage doesn't count), the same 7 and a half month time span.  if anything, that makes it all the more likely that FB2 releases in late March, since JL and FB2 release on the same weekend.

[Broadwayfreak66]

2 hours ago, That One Guy said:

 

it doesn't have to sync up with last year's movie.

 

also how is 7 and a half months "too damn late?"  to compare WB films, Justice League had its first official trailer released on March 25 (as in first trailer, the Comic-Con footage doesn't count), the same 7 and a half month time span.  if anything, that makes it all the more likely that FB2 releases in late March, since JL and FB2 release on the same weekend.

DC's marketing is not the same as Wizarding World's.

[That One Girl]

5 hours ago, Broadwayfreak66 said:

DC's marketing is not the same as Wizarding World's.

 

But WB’s marketing is similar to their own marketing

[antovolk]

1 hour ago, That One Guy said:

 

But WB’s marketing is similar to their own marketing

Correct. Ready Player One is the most likely option for Fantastic Beasts 2, unlike FB1 which was an unknown quantity at that point.

 

If anything being successful means they don't need to kickstart their marketing campaign as early. Even take SW - they had a year-out announcement teaser for TFA, but didn't for TLJ. And of course the DC example that was mentioned - they had theatrical teasers a year out for BvS and MoS, but then moving forward they had full first trailers 8-7 months out (except WW which was a more unknown at that point marketing wise property and they had good opportunity with SDCC). JL first look footage was if anything specifically targeted at press and fans disappointed after BvS, and SS was because of the leak.

[YM!]

The only time WB did major announcement trailer or a movie that doesn’t come until 10+ months was Beasts and Lego Batman. Beasts was because it was 5 years since the last Potter movie and Lego Batman was because BVS was around the corner.

 

Besides with RP1, Rampage and Tomb Raider needing trailers I think it’s unlikely to see a Beasts 2 trailer. I’d argue TTG has a better chance of being attached than it does.

Edited October 20, 2017 by YourMother

[Broadwayfreak66]

Here's the thing: FB is a new franchise that wasn't a perfectly sound success right off the bat that has a lot of new characters and plot lines and locations to market, is already starting to market, and started filming in very early July. Ready Player One is not a big enough product to start marketing it with. 

 

FB really isn't a reawakening of a dormant franchise, it's a new franchise. A part of the reason for some of the negative reaction to the first film is because it had really zero callbacks to the original franchise. 

 

It would be a miraculous mistake for them to market with RPO. The next major films to market with are nonexistent, and May 25 for Solo is way too late for a first trailer, especially considering FB2's marketing schedule is well ahead of the first film's, and film 1 had a first teaser in early April. But we're definitely getting an additional trailer in March. 

 

I expect to have lots of trailers for this film. WB will want to make sure interest doesn't wane in the intervening year, and they'll want to show off their major new characters. It's what they've done with films that have had year gaps between them in the past, most notably Half-Blood Prince, when they had 6 trailers, including  a teaser released a year before.

Edited October 20, 2017 by Broadwayfreak66

[That One Girl]

12 minutes ago, Broadwayfreak66 said:

Ready Player One is not a big enough product to start marketing it with. 

 

Not big enough?  That big-budget movie based on a hugely popular novel that features multiple pop culture icons and is directed by Spielberg is not a big enough product?

 

12 minutes ago, Broadwayfreak66 said:

It would be a miraculous mistake for them to market with RPO. The next major films to market with are nonexistent, and May 25 for Solo is way too late for a first trailer, especially considering FB2's marketing schedule is well ahead of the first film's.

 

Are you forgetting the other big films that come out between RPO and Han Solo?  Even ignoring the fact that I doubt it doesn't come out with RPO, there's still Rampage, New Mutants, and Infinity War.  Even if it does wait until Infinity War, that's still 6 and a half months until release, which is still enough time to market it.

Edited October 20, 2017 by That One Guy

[Broadwayfreak66]

5 minutes ago, That One Guy said:

 

Not big enough?  That big-budget movie based on a hugely popular novel that features multiple pop culture icons and is directed by Spielberg is not a big enough product?

 

 

Are you forgetting the other big films that come out between RPO and Han Solo?  Even ignoring the fact that I doubt it doesn't come out with RPO, there's still Rampage, New Mutants, and Infinity War.  Even if it does wait until Infinity War, that's still 6 and a half months until release, which is still enough time to market it.

They don't randomize marketing like that, they've had a predictable schedule for the franchise so far. Rampage and New Mutants wouldn't be big enough for a first trailer and Infinity War is too late. 

[That One Girl]

17 minutes ago, Broadwayfreak66 said:

WB will want to make sure interest doesn't wane in the intervening year, and they'll want to show off their major new characters

 

The "showing off major new characters" point doesn't work because Justice League had to show off The Flash, Cyborg, and Aquaman in their marketing and they still waited until March for a trailer to be released.

[Broadwayfreak66]

6 minutes ago, That One Guy said:

 

Not big enough?  That big-budget movie based on a hugely popular novel that features multiple pop culture icons and is directed by Spielberg is not a big enough product?

 

 

Are you forgetting the other big films that come out between RPO and Han Solo?  Even ignoring the fact that I doubt it doesn't come out with RPO, there's still Rampage, New Mutants, and Infinity War.  Even if it does wait until Infinity War, that's still 6 and a half months until release, which is still enough time to market it.

Also, the fact that it has pop cultural throwbacks and is directed by Spielberg don't sound like great arguments for the film's success. I don't think many care about the former (in fact, it might strike most as silly) and the director's name can only carry it so far, especially in an age where Spielberg isn't as big as he was. 

[Broadwayfreak66]

11 minutes ago, That One Guy said:

 

The "showing off major new characters" point doesn't work because Justice League had to show off The Flash, Cyborg, and Aquaman in their marketing and they still waited until March for a trailer to be released.

Comics, particularly comic book films, are much more conveyor made and there's a lot more ambivalency to showing them when you consider Wizarding World is their most successful IP and these characters are huge fan favorites that haven't been seen in a film for years. Comic book films aren't as novel, at least not anymore. They're a proven commodity, there isn't the same voraciousness on the studio's part when they have so many slated to come out within just one year.

 

I do think the content of the film plays a role. They've already teased first photos, which typically means a trailer of some sort is cut together somewhere, and the film looks like it has far too many characters and plot lines and locations to market and sell audiences on for it to just casually start marketing too late in the game, along with all the other reasons. 

Edited October 20, 2017 by Broadwayfreak66

[That One Girl]

2 minutes ago, Broadwayfreak66 said:

Also, the fact that it has pop cultural throwbacks and is directed by Spielberg don't sound like great arguments for the film's success. I don't think many care about the former (in fact, it might strike most as silly) and the director's name can only carry it so far, especially in an age where Spielberg isn't as big as he was. 

 

okay cool, but Warner is still confident that RPO will be a hit given that they started marketing it 8 months before its release date and they are already attaching it to multiple movies.  If they decide to release a trailer for FB2 with RPO, then they'll do so with the impression that RPO will be a success.