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[filmlover]

25 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:

Man Disney trips with a bunch of high school kids is a whole lot of drama

Isn't everything that involves a bunch of high school kids nothing but a whole lot of drama?

[AniNate]

Traveling in groups in general is a bunch of drama. Never as fun as it sounds.

[That One Girl]

@MrPink it's official: Great Wall lost more than Valerian

 

http://deadline.com/2018/03/king-arthur-geostorm-monster-trucks-the-promise-the-great-wall-box-office-losses-1202354934/

 

(top 5 is King Arthur, Monster Trucks, The Promise, The Great Wall, and Geostorm)

[DAR]

I traveled with big groups my last few vacations to Mexico.  The consensus is it's your vacation so feel free to do what you want.  If you wanted to hang by the pool so be it.  Want to go visit the Ruins?   Go ahead.   It works out perfectly.

[MrPink]

25 minutes ago, That One Guy said:

@MrPink it's official: Great Wall lost more than Valerian

 

http://deadline.com/2018/03/king-arthur-geostorm-monster-trucks-the-promise-the-great-wall-box-office-losses-1202354934/

 

(top 5 is King Arthur, Monster Trucks, The Promise, The Great Wall, and Geostorm)

 

Valerian still sucks. Still couldn't outgross TGW

 

The nice thing is that I don't actually care much about TGW, and didn't plead the forums to save Valerian and support it.

Edited March 30, 2018 by MrPink

[AniNate]

14 minutes ago, DAR said:

I traveled with big groups my last few vacations to Mexico.  The consensus is it's your vacation so feel free to do what you want.  If you wanted to hang by the pool so be it.  Want to go visit the Ruins?   Go ahead.   It works out perfectly.

If you have that flexibility then that's great. But you usually don't if you're with family or minors in general.

[That One Girl]

2 minutes ago, MrPink said:

 

Valerian still sucks. Still couldn't outgross TGW

 

The nice thing is that I don't actually care much about TGW, and didn't spend plead the forums to save Valerian and support it.

 

We were discussing it on Telegram.  just thought it’d be nice to give some closure to the argument.

[MrPink]

Just now, That One Guy said:

 

We were discussing it on Telegram.  just thought it’d be nice to give some closure to the argument.

 

Have you heard of the term pyrrhic victory? (In which, I think it needs to be considered here that while Besson and Europacorp was able to insulate themselves from distribution pre-sales, it may have actually lost more money for all parties involved including the distributors who bought an incoming bomb).

 

[That One Girl]

Just now, MrPink said:

 

Have you heard of the term pyrrhic victory? (In which, I think it needs to be considered here that while Besson and Europacorp was able to insulate themselves from distribution pre-sales, it may have actually lost more money for all parties involved including the distributors who bought an incoming bomb).

 

 

Not denying that Valerian lost money, but it does seem to be that Great Wall ended up losing more all things considered.  Valerian is in a bit more of a complicated situation financially, but EuropaCorp/Besson, in the end, didn't lose as much money as they could've (and their financial situation matters the most since they funded the film and all).

[MrPink]

Just now, That One Guy said:

 

Not denying that Valerian lost money, but it does seem to be that Great Wall ended up losing more all things considered.  Valerian is in a bit more of a complicated situation financially, but EuropaCorp/Besson, in the end, didn't lose as much money as they could've (and their financial situation matters the most since they funded the film and all).

 

That depends on the party you're asking.

 

If I'm Europacorp, possibly I didn't lose as much money on this specific project (again, considering these are estimates and Valerian's situation is different, I would argue there's a strong case that this isn't definitive either way).

 

It also hurt them significantly on their bargaining power for future projects.

[That One Girl]

2 minutes ago, MrPink said:

It also hurt them significantly on their bargaining power for future projects.

 

To be fair, I doubt they'll make a film with as big of a budget as Valerian again (especially with how it ended up).  They'll probably just go back to making stuff more like Taken, Lucy, Transporter, etc.

 

2 minutes ago, MrPink said:

If I'm Europacorp, possibly I didn't lose as much money on this specific project (again, considering these are estimates and Valerian's situation is different, I would argue there's a strong case that this isn't definitive either way).

 

 

[MrPink]

1 minute ago, That One Guy said:

 

To be fair, I doubt they'll make a film with as big of a budget as Valerian again (especially with how it ended up).  They'll probably just go back to making stuff more like Taken, Lucy, Transporter, etc.

 

 

 

I still imagine they're at a disadvantage even with their smaller films. The distribution bids might be smaller than they would be otherwise, meaning their exposure will be higher.

[WrathOfHan]

1 hour ago, Ethan Hunt said:

Man Disney trips with a bunch of high school kids is a whole lot of drama

lol

[That One Girl]

Goddamn, I just made myself some good Belgian waffles

[Ethan Hunt]

Ex #5 made me feel like a giant selfish asshole 

[Ethan Hunt]

19 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

lol

I mean I had a good time but people just seemed pissy and looking for a fight which I did my best to ignore.

 

And then there's the ex#5 thing I just mentioned and that one was my bad

[WrathOfHan]

9 minutes ago, Ethan Hunt said:

Ex #5 made me feel like a giant selfish asshole 

Being on a trip with your girlfriend and ex seems.............. weird.

 

[Ethan Hunt]

3 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

Being on a trip with your girlfriend and ex seems.............. weird.

 

Yeah... So ex was flirting to my friend I told her that made me uncomfortable. And she like "you don't think seeing you and A together upsets me?" And I was like "you never said anything." And she was like "I didn't wanna stop you from being happy."

 

And suffice to say I felt like a real piece of shit 

[DAR]

1 hour ago, tribefan695 said:

If you have that flexibility then that's great. But you usually don't if you're with family or minors in general.

Last trip was with family and several minors.

[DAR]

1 hour ago, That One Guy said:

Goddamn, I just made myself some good Belgian waffles

Had the toaster settings just right?  But waffles are good.