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[JJ-8]

2018 Fantasy Box Office Game

 

So the 2017 Fantasy Box Office Game is beginning the downward spiral towards the end as we speak and who will win, who will take the ultimate prize.... but what do we have to take it's place.  It's the 2018 Fantasy Box Office Game coming right at ya! 

 

Here is the link to the 2017 game for those that are interested.

As always the 2018 game is considered separate to the 2017 game but weekends will incorporate the 2017 and 2018 game totals in January / Feb (and however long it takes for those 2017 films to close - Hidden Figure took 10 months this year!).  However you won't have to wait that long for a winner to be announced. Normally it's announced just around the same time or just after the Oscar winners are announced. (watch the 2017 end game for the exciting finish

that is brewing at the moment with I think 3 players in contention this year including yours truly)

 

I am again as administrator tweaking the rules slightly to improve gameplay.  I'll highlight the new sections in the second post here (which the full rules list will be shown).

 

Last year, 11 players played the game with around 6 players active most of the year.

@Wrath, @The Dark Alfred, @chasmmi, @Simionski, @Exxdee,

@MCKillswitch123, @grey ghost, @BourneFan #1, @CJohn, @DAJK

 

As players from 2017, you will have 2018 accounts created whether you use them or not. but you welcome to return as always (there is a surprise/bonus for those that do return which is included in the rules below).  So you don't need to sign up again!

 

For everyone else who is not listed above and did not play the 2017 game, SIGN UP SIGN UP - there is 80m dollars waiting for you to invest into the fun world of movie making / studio creation! Bring on Fantasy Box Office 2018!!

 

PS - you don't have to join up day to have fun / win... you can start anytime during the year.  I will create sub winners of say Summer / Fall etc to reflect this.  obviously you a facing off again players who are playing all year, but if u play your cards right anything can happen!

 

 

 

[JJ-8]

Fantasy Box Office Game Rules - 2018 Update

 

Link to Sub Forum (where all the investments are made in the Monthly Threads!)

https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/forum/44-fantasy-box-office/

 

Sections in Red are updated or NEW (I have deleted old rules out of this for reference already)
Official Times

• The time in which all day changes occurs is at Eastern Standard Time (US/Canada) (GMT - 5 hours) Not midnight your local time, but midnight for the East Coast of USA. If you're choosing to invest in a movie being released in exactly one month, make sure the date is as per this. And to be clear, Daylight savings is never applied for this game.
• I should also note that movies will be available from 7pm the day before (1 month in advance of release) and not be available from 7pm the day before.  This change is due to the sneaks now occurring instead of midnights.

 

The Winner

• The Game is run over a full "calendar" year.
• The Winner is announced normally Late February / Early March of the following year once all results are tallied from the December movies.
• Various minor awards are given out including:
  • Return On Investment (% Gain / movie - Average)
  • Best Investor ($ Earnt per % spent as a whole)
  • Company Value (Bank Account - Final figure)
  • Highest Weekend (Earnt in a single weekend)
  • Revenue (Total Earnings for the year)
• Overall Winner is calculated using the above awards.  It is known as "The Geekfreek Award" in honor of the original Game Admin from 2006 when the game first started on BOM.

 

Bank Accounts

• Each player will have a Bank Account with which they can spend money to invest in movies.
• Each player will be given starting dollars when they join to begin investing. The value is adjusted each year as appropriate.
• Start dollars (2017) = 80m
• As a bonus for continuing players (from the previous year), on the 1st February of the following year, for every 50m you have in your Bank Account in the previous year, you will receive an additional 1m to spend in the following year.

 

• To invest in a movie, you must have the amount you are investing available in your bank account at the time the investment is made.
• All the money you earn from your investments will be put into your bank account for you to spend further.
• If you no longer have enough money to continue with the game, you can claim bankruptcy and your account will automatically be reset and you will start all over with the Current Start Dollars in your bank account. (all previous investments no longer count)
   

Movies (General)

• Only a film’s PRODUCTION BUDGET will be used for this game.
• Only a film’s DOMESTIC GROSS will be used for this game.
• The film's release date will be as per the current US Domestic Release dates (first date whether it's limited or wide) as listed on Box office Mojo.
• Any film that is due for release in the US can be invested in (including limited release films).
• You may only invest in a movie 1 FULL month before its release date. The date MUST be exact accordance to the current calendar date. For example, if it February 28, you can only invest in films being released on or before March 28. You must wait until March 1 to invest in films being released on March 29, 30 and 31.

 

Movie Budgets

• Any unknown budgets will be estimated. If no official budget is ever released, the estimate will stand as fact. If the official budget is released at a later time, that will be used instead of the estimate. Any budget changes are final and the player will have to accept them accordingly. The following will used for budgets of unknown movies which no details are available:
  • Action / Thriller = 150m (Big Budget) / 75m (Off Season)
  • Animation (CGI) = 150m (Big Budget) / 100m (Off Season)
  • Animation (2D) = 75m
  • Science Fiction / Fantasy / Comic Book = 175m (Big Budget) / 90m (Off Season)
  • Indie Films = 30m
  • Horror = 20m
  • Comedy = 100m (Big Budget) / 50m (Off Season)

 

• If and when BOM releases a budget, that budget will become fact except for the following:
  • When BOM's Budget (BB) > the Game Budget (GB) + 20m then the following applies :
  • New GB = BB - ROUNDED(((BB-GB-20)/BB)*(BB-GB-20))

 

Investment Rules

• Players can choose to only invest in part or all of a films budget up to a maximum of 100%.
• Players will receive the % of the earnings from the film based upon which % invested in the film. Eg. invested 20%, you will receive 20% of the earnings. 
• You cannot invest in the same film for than a total of more than 100%. (If you invest 100% of the film’s budget, you can not invest in the film a second time.)
• All films will have 200% available (normally) unless the following occurs:
  • More Than 200% investments are made in the first 24 hours.  Max TOTAL Investment increases to 300%.
  • No Investment made with less than 2 weeks to Release.  Max investment reduces to 100%, Budget is 75% of Original/Final Budget.
  • No Investment made with less than 1 week to Release.  Budget is now 50% of Original/Final Budget.
• If more than 300% investments are made in the first 12 hours, the following will apply:
  • Each player will receive a reduced amount of investment as per the following:
    • Last investor is reduced by 10%.
    • 2nd last is reduced by 10% and last reduced by an additional 10%
    • 3rd, 2nd, and last all reduced by 10% (in addition to above)
    • and so on and so on until the amount is reduced enough such that it adds up to 300%.
    • (if it gets all the way to the first investor then it restarts at the last investor again)
  • using the above manner, we keep a way of letting players who miss the investment time a chance to invest but also still prioritises first in best dressed which there is always an element of in this game.  (I have removed the whole bidding process which I have felt detracted from the gameplay this year)
• If you have chosen to invest and decide to cancel ALL or part of your investment (keeping within the normal rules above), the following WILL apply:
  • Unless there is less than 24 hours to release, Cancellation is allowed within the first 24 hours after making the investment (ie. cooling off period).
  • > 2 Weeks prior to release - 100% of the cancelled amount is returned
  • > 1 Week prior to release - 50% of the cancelled amount is returned
  • < 1 Week prior to release - Nothing will be returned at this point so you should just keep your investment.
• You can also choose to sell all or part of your investment (following the same rules as above for investments)
  • Once the movie is released you cannot sell your investment
  • The Sale can be in the form of money or swapping for other investments.
  • The amount is up to you - there are no limits and only need to be agreed between all parties involved.
  • Sales involving money will count towards your earnings for the year.
  • If at time of release an on-sold investment has a budget change, then this change will be reflected in the current owners budget. eg. Investor B bought the movie investment worth 40m of investor A for 60m. The budget then increased to 50m. Investor B's final budget equals 70m as a result because investor B paid a premium of 20m to investor A for the investment

Investment Restrictions (applies as you invest more %)

• Your ability to invest is restricted as you invest more in movies over the year. This will be controlled by the total % of films in "Wide Release".
• A film is consider to be in "Wide Release" when the investment is in > 600 theatres.
  • eg. you have invested 50% in a film which is in 3100 theatres.  For the game your investment is considered to be in 1550 theatres which is in "Wide Release".
  • 2nd eg. you have invested 10% in a film which is in 2500 theatres.  For the game your investment is considered to be in 250 theatres which is in "limited release" and as such is NOT in wide release for the game purposes even though the film itself is in wide release.
• As in real life, a studio has limited resources to market films and as such is there is a restriction on the amount of films in "Wide Release" in the game.
  • A Studio / Player is allowed a maximum of 300% or the equivalent of 3 Wide Releases at any one time.  The Film MUST be released to count.
• When a Studio / Player has passed this limit of 300%, that Studio / Player CANNOT invest in a film that is listed as a WIDE release on BOM (either the term WIDE or > 600 forecast theatres)
• TO BE CLEAR :- you will continue to earn $ from films in limited release as always until the film closes.  This does not change.

 

[JJ-8]

2017 Players (already included in 2018 Playing List)

1. JJ-8 / Jajang
2. Wrath
3. Alfred
4. Chasmmi
5. Simionski
6. Exxdee
7. MCKillswitch123
8. grey ghost
9. BourneFan #1
10. CJohn
11. DAJK

 

2018 New Player Sign ups

1.  

[JJ-8]

Summary of New Rules for Returning players to 2018 :

 

1. All films now start with 200% no matter what.  if more than 200% investments in made in first 24 hours then max increases to 300%.

2. Auction rule is now removed.  i'm going try a new rule going forward. where 10% is removed from the last player first and then again from the last player and then 2nd last investor etc etc.... happy to give an example if that will help.  This ONLY applies when investment total is > 300% within the first 12 hours.  above 300 after first 12 .. then to bad

3. Cooling off period for investments is 24 hours, same cancellation rules as always if you are inside 2 weeks after this.

4. Returning players will receive on 1st February, 1m for every 50m they have in their 2017 Bank Account on this date.

[JJ-8]

January 2018 Investment thread.... with the first films for 2018 shown!

 

 

from the 5th December 2017 - go get em! (well at least 1 film)

 

PS - you can join anytime during the year!

[DAJK]

Yea I'd be down!!!

[BourneFan #1]

I'll try to be more active this year, I barely played last game.

[JJ-8]

Anyone who is interested in joining into the frey for 2018, feel free to ask questions.  If i'm not around i'm sure one of the regulars will be able to help! 

 

Also this isn't a game which you have to play 100% of the time.  It's kind of a set and forget game at times I think you chose to invest and then you own that investment and make money from it.  you just need to remember to pop in to grab a piece of your favourite OR most likely to succeed films.  remember you can invest in ANY film released domestically (as long as you invest before the film is released) ~ something I was thinking about for the regulars, unless we can attribute a budget to a re-release, we can't invest in those films.

[JJ-8]

2018 Game is now underway!  (first results won't be until after the coming weekend...)

 

Both January and February Investment threads are now up too.  (goto the sub forum as always!)

 

Welcome to 2018!

[JJ-8]

And we go.. the first weekly results from 2018......... (weekend charts incorporate 2017 results as per normal)

 

[JJ-8]

Weekend Box Office
January 5th-7th, 2018
TW	LW	Investor Title	Weekend Gross	% Change	Theatre Count / Change		Average	Invested Movie Count / Active %		Bank Account (2017)
1	1	Grey Ghost	$134,060,048	-7.8%	25,993	+2,912	$5,158	43	775%	$1,597,093,204
2	2	Jajang	$117,213,231	-10.2%	20,767	+2,949	$5,644	47	525%	$1,479,562,663
3	4	Simionski	$77,189,246	+20.8%	15,683	+6,241	$4,922	40	475%	$1,875,369,281
4	3	chasmmi	$75,217,864	-39.0%	15,942	-1,498	$4,718	35	475%	$1,443,807,316
5	5	Exxdee	$3,529,811	-36.7%	2,358	-988	$1,497	21	100%	$1,261,994,666
Totals (5 Players):			$407,210,199	-13.1%	80,743	+9,616	$5,043	24	2350%

[JJ-8]

Weekend Box Office
January 12th-14th, 2018
TW	LW	Investor Title	Weekend Gross	% Change	Theatre Count / Change		Average	Invested Movie Count / Active %		Bank Account (2018)
1	1	Grey Ghost	$117,177,777	-12.6%	27,528	+1,535	$4,257	5	225%	$86,066,725
2	2	Jajang	$78,340,286	-33.2%	19,572	-1,195	$4,003	2	150%	$99,161,836
3	4	Simionski	$61,877,236	-19.8%	16,674	+991	$3,711	2	125%	$108,911,345
4	3	chasmmi	$47,215,467	-37.2%	11,454	-4,488	$4,122	0	0%	$80,000,000
5	-	MCKillswitch123	$5,500,981	-	1,851	+1,851	$2,972	1	50%	$60,500,981
6	5	Exxdee	$1,828,648	-48.2%	1,628	-730	$1,123	0	0%	$80,000,000
Totals (6 Players):			$311,940,394	-23.4%	78,707	-2,036	$3,963	4	550%

[JJ-8]

** Note - 2018 back  accounts didn't include above any investments made since Monday (inc Black Panther)

 

Updated Bank Accounts below :

Bank Accounts - 2018
Bank Account = 100m + $ Earnt (Revenue) - $ Invested If Wide Active > 300% (3 Movies) then you are restricted.
TW	Investors Title	Movie Count	Wide Active %	Total $ Invested	Total Revenue ($ Earnt)	Bank Account Total Gross
1	Wrath	0	0%	$0	$0	$80,000,000
2	Alfred	0	0%	$0	$0	$80,000,000
3	chasmmi	0	0%	$0	$0	$80,000,000
4	Exxdee	0	0%	$0	$0	$80,000,000
5	BourneFan #1	0	0%	$0	$0	$80,000,000
6	CJohn	0	0%	$0	$0	$80,000,000
7	DAJK	0	0%	$0	$0	$80,000,000
8	MCKillswitch123	1	50%	$25,000,000	$8,400,617	$63,400,617
9	Grey Ghost	6	245%	$131,500,000	$72,581,566	$21,081,566
10	Jajang	4	150%	$139,050,000	$61,184,882	$2,134,882
11	Simionski	3	125%	$135,000,000	$56,984,573	$1,984,573

[JJ-8]

On ‎2‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 1:30 AM, DAJK said:

Yea I'd be down!!!

 

On ‎2‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 11:40 AM, BourneFan #1 said:

I'll try to be more active this year, I barely played last game.

Don't forget this game  

[JJ-8]

Weekend Box Office
January 19th-21st, 2018
TW	LW	Investor Title	Weekend Gross	% Change	Theatre Count / Change		Average	Invested Movie Count / Active %		Bank Account (2018)
1	1	Grey Ghost	$78,533,711	-33.0%	25,286	-2,242	$3,106	6	245%	$37,558,649
2	2	Jajang	$51,930,606	-33.7%	16,900	-2,672	$3,073	4	150%	$12,013,501
3	3	Simionski	$36,354,276	-41.2%	14,203	-2,471	$2,560	3	125%	$2,360,911
4	4	chasmmi	$29,490,406	-37.5%	8,884	-2,570	$3,320	0	0%	$80,000,000
5	5	MCKillswitch123	$4,004,565	-27.2%	1,851	-	$2,163	1	50%	$67,405,181
6	6	Exxdee	$917,588	-49.8%	981	-647	$935	0	0%	$80,000,000
Totals (6 Players):			$201,231,152	-35.5%	68,105	-10,602	$2,955	5	570%

[JJ-8]

Weekend Box Office
January 26th-28th, 2018
TW	LW	Investor Title	Weekend Gross	% Change	Theatre Count / Change		Average	Invested Movie Count / Active %		Bank Account (2018)
1	1	Grey Ghost	$63,309,074	-19.4%	22,187	-3,099	$2,854	7	170%	$12,818,156
2	2	Jajang	$57,448,829	+10.6%	16,650	-250	$3,451	5	220%	$7,801,077
3	3	Simionski	$30,097,737	-17.2%	12,388	-1,815	$2,430	3	125%	$9,609,618
4	4	chasmmi	$21,967,830	-25.5%	6,812	-2,072	$3,225	0	0%	$80,000,000
5	5	MCKillswitch123	$2,834,217	-29.2%	1,396	-455	$2,030	1	50%	$71,374,116
6	6	Exxdee	$917,573	-0.0%	869	-112	$1,056	0	0%	$80,000,000
Totals (6 Players):			$176,575,260	-12.3%	60,302	-7,803	$2,928	6	565%

[JJ-8]

January 2018
TM	LM	Investor Title	Monthly Gross	% Change	Sales	Total Revenue 2018
1	1	Grey Ghost	$641,369,420	-26.7%	$0	$104,868,976
2	2	Jajang	$502,460,325	-40.2%	$0	$100,578,469
3	4	Simionski	$328,275,025	-42.2%	$0	$72,363,721
4	3	chasmmi	$317,847,796	-56.5%	$0	$0
5	6	MCKillswitch123	$16,658,285	+1247.6%	$0	$16,494,171
6	5	Exxdee	$14,775,107	-88.7%	$0	$0
7	7	Alfred	$25,354	-82.8%	$0	$0
8	8	BourneFan #1	$0	-100.0%	$0	$0
Totals (8 Players):			$1,821,411,311	-42.1%	$0	$294,305,337

[JJ-8]

Weekend Box Office
February 2nd-4th, 2018
TW	LW	Investor Title	Weekend Gross	% Change	Theatre Count / Change		Average	Invested Movie Count / Active %		Bank Account (2018)
1	1	Grey Ghost	$42,235,932	-33.3%	21,258	-929	$1,987	7	150%	$48,618,145
2	2	Jajang	$44,970,327	-21.7%	18,526	+1,876	$2,428	6	320%	$61,626,528
3	3	Simionski	$19,056,700	-36.7%	12,060	-328	$1,580	5	100%	$875,947
4	4	chasmmi	$14,456,622	-34.2%	6,305	-507	$2,293	0	0%	$110,000,000
5	5	MCKillswitch123	$1,638,727	-42.2%	1,194	-202	$1,372	1	50%	$96,240,566
6	6	Exxdee	$530,282	-42.2%	664	-205	$799	0	0%	$80,000,000
Totals (6 Players):			$122,888,590	-30.4%	60,007	-295	$2,048	7	620%

[JJ-8]

Weekend Box Office
February 9th-11th, 2018
TW	LW	Investor Title	Weekend Gross	% Change	Theatre Count / Change		Average	Invested Movie Count / Active %		Bank Account (2018)
1	3	Simionski	$69,469,832	+264.5%	14,512	+2,452	$4,787	5	175%	$54,969,832
2	2	Jajang	$37,686,133	-16.2%	15,379	-3,147	$2,451	6	245%	$84,394,417
3	1	Grey Ghost	$30,831,180	-27.0%	15,100	-6,158	$2,042	9	50%	$12,025,189
4	4	chasmmi	$11,974,850	-17.2%	4,713	-1,592	$2,541	0	0%	$110,000,000
5	5	MCKillswitch123	$650,551	-60.3%	715	-479	$910	1	50%	$97,266,733
6	6	Exxdee	$514,833	-2.9%	593	-71	$868	0	0%	$80,000,000
Totals (6 Players):			$151,127,378	+23.0%	51,012	-8,995	$2,963	9	520%

[JJ-8]

Weekend Box Office
February 16th-18th, 2018
TW	LW	Investor Title	Weekend Gross	% Change	Theatre Count / Change		Average	Invested Movie Count / Active %		Bank Account (2018)
1	1	Simionski	$198,329,877	+185.5%	13,658	-854	$14,522	7	255%	$262,477,416
2	2	Jajang	$165,829,473	+340.0%	13,421	-1,958	$12,357	6	265%	$240,349,973
3	3	Grey Ghost	$121,288,535	+293.4%	11,385	-3,715	$10,654	10	50%	$106,924,876
4	4	chasmmi	$9,038,459	-24.5%	3,632	-1,081	$2,489	0	0%	$110,000,000
5	6	Exxdee	$360,132	-30.0%	388	-205	$928	0	0%	$80,000,000
6	5	MCKillswitch123	$200,647	-69.2%	197	-518	$1,021	1	0%	$97,638,176
Totals (6 Players):			$495,047,122	+227.6%	42,681	-8,331	$11,599	10	570%