pinocchio Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 The main problem regarding Intouchables and it's US release is of course the fact that the American audience has the image to despise all foreign movies in general -- subtitled or dubbed or whatseover doesn't matter... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 The main problem regarding Intouchables and it's US release is of course the fact that the American audience has the image to despise all foreign movies in general -- subtitled or dubbed or whatseover doesn't matter...Everyone of us was avoiding saying that not to sound prejudiced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinocchio Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Everyone of us was avoiding saying that not to sound prejudiced. I don't have problems to play the bad guy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaotchan Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Yes we also have a really good dubbing system in France with pretty good voice actors.I think dubbing mostly has an "image" problem in the UK and in the US, not sure where it comes from. People just hate the idea. Which is a shame, maybe the US would be more receptive to foreigns movies if they were dubbed with American voices? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Yes we also have a really good dubbing system in France with pretty good voice actors.I think dubbing mostly has an "image" problem in the UK and in the US, not sure where it comes from. People just hate the idea. Which is a shame, maybe the US would be more receptive to foreigns movies if they were dubbed with American voices?You assign a certain voice actor to a certain movie star preferable with a similar voice and keep that over all movies if possible. You need a good translation. I am wondering why they don't use CGI to alter the lip-movements following the dubbed text- that can't be that expensive anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anaotchan Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Yes exactly - it's surprisingly shocking when they change the usual voice actor for whatever reason. I remember the voice actors for the Friends cast went on strike back in the 90s, and they ended up replacing Rachel's "voice". It felt all kinds of wrong. I am wondering why they don't use CGI to alter the lip-movements following the dubbed text- that can't be that expensive anymore. Interesting idea. European filmmakers may want to look into it if they ever want to really break the American market. Or they could just hire American actors I guess, but I bet the CGI option is cheaper! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Funny thing is that the real good voice-actors usually dub more than one actor. So it can happen that the same va must dub 2 actors in one film - as happened with the german dub of "Expendables", where Thomas Danneberg had to speak Arnie as well as Sly. If they get John Travolta for Exp.3, - well - he's dubbing HIM too! He even did Bruce Willis once, but that was an exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Funny thing is that the real good voice-actors usually dub more than one actor. So it can happen that the same va must dub 2 actors in one film - as happened with the german dub of "Expendables", where Thomas Danneberg had to speak Arnie as well as Sly. If they get John Travolta for Exp.3, - well - he's dubbing HIM too! He even did Bruce Willis once, but that was an exception.In Expendendables 5 German version it will be a monologue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockNrollaDIM Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 I don't have problems to play the bad guy... It's not bad, it's honest. Americans are too lazy to watch foreign films. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 To get back on topic:Intouchables had a decent opening in Poland with 68.000 admissions, Nr.2 behind AP4 but in front of Titanic and other openers.In Spain it had 170.000 admissions, down 17% from Easter weekend BUT even a little up compared to the weekend before ! Those insane legs don't get any shorter ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinocchio Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Here in Switzerland it made another 21'000 admissions in week xxx...Was number two behind Battleship in the german speaking part of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebomb Posted April 18, 2012 Author Share Posted April 18, 2012 Just wondering, how does one track Switzerland's box office since they are split up into 3 different parts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinocchio Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Top five in Switzerland admissions are now: 1940600 TITANIC FOX 9.1.1998 1242287 INTOUCHABLES FRENETIC 19.1.2012 1165611 AVATAR FOX 17.12.2009 1115792 FINDING NEMO DISNEY 20.11.2003 1066343 ICE AGE 2 FOX 6.4.2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinocchio Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 Just wondering, how does one track Switzerland's box office since they are split up into 3 different parts?We have a database that collects all the numbers:http://www.procinema.ch/And we have weekly numbers for all three regions:http://www.filmdistr.../top10adm.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebomb Posted April 18, 2012 Author Share Posted April 18, 2012 I looked at the 2nd link and it's been released in the Italian part of Switzerland and at #1. Do you know what it's starting admissions are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinocchio Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 It was 2598 admissions but I had to go to Insidekino.de to get that number:http://insidekino.de...CHTopII2012.htmWe have no similar source in Switzerland... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebomb Posted April 18, 2012 Author Share Posted April 18, 2012 The date didn't match up with the data from the 2nd link so I went further back and found out its admissions are 2,695 first weekend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) @Bluebomb concerning the title change: as far as I know Intouchables has already opened in Quebec April 13th on 42 screens with $325909 OW that is in N.AmericaIn the rest of NA it will open May 25thsource: http://www.unifrance.org/film/31884/intouchables/distribution?sort.property=dateSortie&page=0&sort.ascending=true Edited April 18, 2012 by Rudolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted April 18, 2012 Share Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) $5,652,331 weekend. $322,500,000 cume. This is its lowest weekend yet. 24 weekends over $5M. God! on BOM the designations of the weekends seem out of order: the movie opened Nov 2nd Edited April 19, 2012 by Rudolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebomb Posted April 19, 2012 Author Share Posted April 19, 2012 @Bluebomb concerning the title change: as far as I know Intouchables has already opened in Quebec April 13th on 42 screens with $325909 OW that is in N.AmericaIn the rest of NA it will open May 25thsource: http://www.unifrance....ascending=trueYou're right, my mistake. I changed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
