IndustriousAngel Posted February 4, 2015 Author Share Posted February 4, 2015 20mil US$ are a stretch atm but not impossible, with holidays in some regions there should be strong weekdays, and there's not new competition this week or the next; Spongebob doesn't open until Feb.19. Those 2 weeks have to count! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 First trend for Germany's weekend: #1: HiK (what else) - 350k admissions (-5%) #2: BH6 - 225k (-20%) #3: FF4 - 150k (-15%) #4 and best opener: Jupiter Ascending with about 125k; Interview might make it to the 100k line. It's now holidays in many parts of Germany, so good holds for family stuff are expected, but a less-than-5%-drop for the adult-skewing "Honig im Kopf" would be just plain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 last estimates for the weekend: #1: HiK - 310k admissions (-15%, sounds more sensible) #2: BH6 - 210k (-25%, not so good) #3: JA - 145k (went up from earlier estimates, so some walk-in business I guess; still not stellar) #4: FF4 - 140k (-20%, will need better holds to reach the million) #5: FMmw - 105k (-5%, a million is locked) #6: Interview - 90k (very good considering the fact it's been available online for a while now) #7: JW - 85k (-40%, not too good) #8: IG - 75k (-20%) #9: Blackhat - 60k - ugh 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 btw, here's the link to Germany's market data for the past years at the FilmFörderungsAnstalt: http://www.ffa.de/index.php?page=marktdaten As we already knew, 2014 was one of the worst years in recent history (in Austria it was even worse). Two positive aspects of an overall shitty 2014: Domestic films had a slightly bigger market share than in 2013 (in fact, the biggest share of the last 5 years, but still below 30%), and the 3D share was a bit down from 2013. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastclock Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 So, FF4 is a Famous Five adaptation? Is it being distributed outside of Germany? Is it successful? Enid Blyton's works are really nostalgic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 So, FF4 is a Famous Five adaptation? Is it being distributed outside of Germany? Is it successful? Enid Blyton's works are really nostalgic. It is mildly successful in Germany, in a very reliable way, every entry in the franchise does similar numbers, and production costs are low (sub-5mil €). I think they get released in german-speaking countries exclusively. btw, there's another german Blytonesque franchise, "Hanni und Nanni" (based on Blyton's "St. Clare's" series) which does nearly exactly the same numbers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastclock Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 It is mildly successful in Germany, in a very reliable way, every entry in the franchise does similar numbers, and production costs are low (sub-5mil €). I think they get released in german-speaking countries exclusively. btw, there's another german Blytonesque franchise, "Hanni und Nanni" (based on Blyton's "St. Clare's" series) which does nearly exactly the same numbers. Thanks for the info. I would not mind seeing the adaptations - how it got translated to the current world. Need something in English, though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 121.7m admissions in 2014, that's the lowest since 1992. http://www.ffa.de/downloads/marktdaten/1_Fuenf_Jahre_Blick/09bis14_jahresabschluss.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 121.7m admissions in 2014, that's the lowest since 1992. http://www.ffa.de/downloads/marktdaten/1_Fuenf_Jahre_Blick/09bis14_jahresabschluss.pdf And I complain about how low is the attendance in my country... that is a lower average tickets per person than in Spain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) And I complain about how low is the attendance in my country... that is a lower average tickets per person than in Spain Germany's been lower than Spain on that front for a long time. How many tickets in Spain last year? Edited February 10, 2015 by lab276 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total drop week 1 Honig im Kopf 316.311 775 408 5.101.122 -12 7 2 Big Hero 6 204.337 640 319 1.074.088 -29 3 3 Jupiter Ascending 153.841 452 340 153.841 - 1 4 Fünf Freunde 4 137.180 605 227 372.840 -21 2 5 Frau Müller muss weg 105.800 408 259 604.988 -6 4 6 The Interview 91.746 356 258 91.746 - 1 7 John Wick 83.457 334 250 294.093 -41 2 8 The Imitation Game 71.529 250 286 352.123 -23 3 9 Birdman 55.162 138 400 169.692 -17 2 10 Blackhat 51.815 345 150 76.206 - 1 11 Ouija 46.632 315 148 299.731 -45 3 12 Bibi & Tina 2 40.352 557 72 1.126.577 -21 7 13 Taken 3 35.906 398 90 1.087.892 -52 5 14 Mortdecai 33.037 461 72 285.273 -52 3 15 Let's Be Cops 29.897 308 97 654.459 -50 5 16 3 Türken & ein Baby 27.367 193 142 158.694 -38 3 17 Paddington 24.903 428 58 1.885.899 -23 10 18 Der kleine Drache Kokosnuss 20.985 386 54 735.112 -17 8 19 300 Worte Deutsch 20.907 140 149 31.848 - 1 20 Wild 20.227 154 131 174.279 -21 4 The openers: flop to disappointment territory, with the exception of "The Interview". The holdovers: "Honig im Kopf" still very strong, crossed 5mil total this weekend and shows few signs of slowing down. "Hobbit 3", while out of the Top20 by now, crossed 6mil total on Tuesday and is still ahead of DoS by about 80k admissions. BH6 had the steepest drop among family stuff, still an ok weekend and crossed 1mil total. Paddington gets much closer to the 2mil mark than I expected, strong run! Next weekend: 50SoG and little else (Statham in "Wild Card" - poor guy). The question is not if the SM romance will smash the competition but by how much. The screen loss alone will hurt "Honig im Kopf" quite a bit and other movies a lot harder. Family stuff however should hold well, no new competition and I guess 50SoG will not have that many afternoon shows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Here's the list of the top 10 in the year. With nothing over 5m, it's a little sad. Top 10 – Filme in Deutschland 2014 1. DER HOBBIT: DIE SCHLACHT DER FÜNF HEERE (USA) 4.684.916 2. DIE TRIBUTE VON PANEM - MOCKINGJAY TEIL 1 (USA) 4.369.905 3. MONSIEUR CLAUDE UND SEINE TÖCHTER (F) 3.121.434 4. DRACHENZÄHMEN LEICHT GEMACHT 2 (USA) 2.723.730 5. DER MEDICUS (D) 2.611.292 6. TRANSFORMERS: ÄRA DES UNTERGANGS (USA) 2.507.657 7. THE WOLF OF WALL STREET (USA) 2.400.242 8. VATERFREUDEN (D) 2.367.567 9. GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY (USA) 1.790.887 10. RIO 2 - DSCHUNGELFIEBER (USA) 1.759.233 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 Here's the list of the top 10 in the year. With nothing over 5m, it's a little sad. Top 10 – Filme in Deutschland 2014 1. DER HOBBIT: DIE SCHLACHT DER FÜNF HEERE (USA) 4.684.916 2. DIE TRIBUTE VON PANEM - MOCKINGJAY TEIL 1 (USA) 4.369.905 3. MONSIEUR CLAUDE UND SEINE TÖCHTER (F) 3.121.434 4. DRACHENZÄHMEN LEICHT GEMACHT 2 (USA) 2.723.730 5. DER MEDICUS (D) 2.611.292 6. TRANSFORMERS: ÄRA DES UNTERGANGS (USA) 2.507.657 7. THE WOLF OF WALL STREET (USA) 2.400.242 8. VATERFREUDEN (D) 2.367.567 9. GUARDIANS OF THE GALAXY (USA) 1.790.887 10. RIO 2 - DSCHUNGELFIEBER (USA) 1.759.233 It was a slow year, but of course Hobbit3 has crossed 6mil by now and Honig im Kopf will do so in three weeks I guess. Movies that have admissions in two different years (basically, all Nov/Dec releases and some Oct ones) are misrepresented in these lists. Here's the list to insidekino's yearly charts by release date: http://www.insidekino.de/DBO.htm#JAHRES_&_ALL-TIME_CHARTS_ and here's the list for 2014 (last weekend still missing as of now): http://www.insidekino.de/DJahr/D2014.htm 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Germany's been lower than Spain on that front for a long time. How many tickets in Spain last year? 86.93 million admissions and 6 euros average ticket price. Total market: €522m. Ticket average ticket price has dropped about 0.5 € relative to 2013. I could imagine a lower average ticket per person in Germany, but not a so lower, considering the Spanish box office crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 Average ticket price in Germany for 2014: 8,05€ (2013: 7,89, 2012: 7,65 ... you get the idea) In France, they introduced a new cheaper-ticket program for youths in 2014 and they got a 5% rise in admissions iirc. In Germany and Austria, they fight dropping admissions with higher prices ... maybe one of the bigger players wakes up one day and tries something "new", like maybe in France?. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 86.93 million admissions and 6 euros average ticket price. Total market: €522m. Ticket average ticket price has dropped about 0.5 € relative to 2013. I could imagine a lower average ticket per person in Germany, but not a so lower, considering the Spanish box office crisis. The way I think of it is that Spain's got a lot further to fall in average admissions and the current crisis is taking it down closer to Germany's level. It's already so low in Germany that it isn't going to fall much further. The situation is the same as Japan and any fluctuation in admissions there, as with Germany, is more dependent on the product than it is in other countries with higher average attendance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Average ticket price in Germany for 2014: 8,05€ (2013: 7,89, 2012: 7,65 ... you get the idea) In France, they introduced a new cheaper-ticket program for youths in 2014 and they got a 5% rise in admissions iirc. In Germany and Austria, they fight dropping admissions with higher prices ... maybe one of the bigger players wakes up one day and tries something "new", like maybe in France?. Yes. We had the problem of prices in past years. Incredible rising of prices even although salaries were lower. We have had initiatives like Fiesta del Cine (can be translated as Movie's party), where two periods of Monday-Wednesday along the year (in April and in October), tickets were at 2.90€ for everyone. In both 3-days periods, about 2 million admissions were sold. 4 million out 87 total yearly in just 6 laborable days. When prices become attractive people keep going to cinemas. Maybe, like in the French example that you mention, that is the way to make people come back to theaters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 can someone post the admissions of all the Tolkien movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 can someone post the admissions of all the Tolkien movies. For Germany: LotR1: 11.930.785 LotR2: 10.753.596 LotR3: 10.442.102 Hobbit1: 6.689.043 Hobbit2: 6.092.890 Hobbit3: 6.026.575 (and counting) note that a few percent of these numbers are from re-releases (except Hobbit3 of course) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted February 13, 2015 Author Share Posted February 13, 2015 first trend for Germany's weekend: #1: 50SoG - 1,3mil admissions (best Feb opening but below my expectations) #2: HiK - 275k (-15%, thought it would drop more thanks to few screens) #3: BH6 - 175k (-15%, ok but now holidays are mostly over) #4: FF4 - 125k (-10% - that's the kind of drosp it needs to reach the million!) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...