Aristis Posted October 9, 2016 Share Posted October 9, 2016 19 minutes ago, George Parr said: 3rd trend is up: 1) Dory 575k 2) Mrs. Peregrine's - 200k 3) Bad Moms - 160k 4) Sausage Party - 150k 5) Blair Witch - 70k 6) TM7 - 55k 7) Wardogs 55k 8) Pets 45k 9) Tschick - 45k 10) Snowden 45k http://www.insidekino.com/News.htm So about 35% drop for Dory. Not that great... But that's great for Mrs. Peregrine's! Could play well over the holidays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted October 9, 2016 Author Share Posted October 9, 2016 A little adendum from Austria: September was , sadly, the worst on in recent history (the worst September, not month ... June was worse). At least Dory is doing fine (might hit 600k total) so maybe October can turn the tide a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted October 10, 2016 Author Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) Weekend numbers for Germany follow the latest estimates, Dory and Peregrine even a bit higher - nice! In Austria we had a good weekend once more, with Dory and Moms dropping less than 20% (both doing a lot better than in Germany); Peregrine opens to #3 with similar numbers as in Germany. So hopefully we really get a strong October ... theaters really could use some good business! Edited October 10, 2016 by IndustriousAngel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted October 11, 2016 Author Share Posted October 11, 2016 Germany’s Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Finding Dory 577.804 777 744 1.943.792 16.990.481 -34 2 2 Miss Peregrine's Home For Peculiar Children 206.127 514 401 217.662 2.255.644 - 1 3 Bad Moms 164.249 495 332 834.966 6.841.555 -29 3 4 Sausage Party 130.567 409 319 162.853 1.288.840 - 1 5 Blair Witch 72.042 255 283 72.042 649.005 - 1 6 War Dogs 58.591 240 244 211.295 1.819.970 -41 2 7 The Magnificent Seven 57.635 544 106 400.886 3.594.779 -52 3 8 Tschick 50.726 503 101 452.736 3.372.522 -30 4 9 The Secret Life of Pets 49.655 558 89 3.621.574 29.876.111 -14 11 10 Snowden 48.618 288 169 279.782 2.496.757 -36 3 11 SMS für Dich 47.542 531 90 639.324 5.204.020 -53 4 12 Nerve 34.823 337 103 670.545 5.319.895 -52 5 13 The Purge 3 30.769 322 96 563.670 4.779.110 -66 4 14 Unsere Zeit ist jetzt 23.029 211 109 23.698 200.602 - 1 15 Conni & Co 22.028 476 46 479.130 2.990.500 -15 8 16 Frantz 19.857 92 216 67.897 531.341 -24 2 17 Don't Breathe 18.022 269 67 447.094 3.818.489 -65 5 18 Cézanne et moi 17.619 77 229 18.582 145.458 - 1 19 Pete’s Dragon 11.163 292 88 266.032 1.947.607 -24 7 20 Schweinskopf al dente 11.158 140 80 516.204 3.947.081 -31 9 Not bad, that weekend – most releases including Dory dropped a bit harder than I hoped; as an exception Bad Moms is showing some tenacity in clinging to the top3. Strange that Pets and even Pete’s Dragon fell much softer than Dory ... let’s wait but I think 4mil total for Dory ist the lowest treshold. Miss Peregrine’s had a fine start and should see a good hold next weekend. Next weekend: A rather interesting weekend is coming up! With Inferno we should see a new #1 – the first Brown adaption managed a 1,5mil opening weekend – the second one still 1mil – so, even if the downward trend continues, Inferno should be good for at least 500k; I’m hoping for a bit more (say, 750k) even if I have zero interest in the movie itself Among other releases, domestic teen comedy Verrückt nach Fixi might see some success thanks to little competition in its demo – might be able to make the Top5. And Swiss Army Man is my personal favourite, but has a very limited target demo. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) It was partly sunny here today but with a very cold wind. These are the Thursday estimates (via insidekino.de forum): New releases: Inferno: 87k (starts in 660 theaters, very mediocre reviews; had no previews which means that the Thursday number will have a lower multiplier when it comes to the whole weekend; „The Da Vinci Code“ had 1.6M admissions on its first weekend and „Illuminati“ 1M) Verrückt nach Fixi: 5k (390; pretty bad reviews) Swiss Army Man: ?k (around 70; good reviews and - not surprising - several very positive but also some very negative user-reviews from sneaks) Holdovers: Dory: 20.5k evening only (Last Thursday: whole day 70k, evening only 19.5k) Miss Peregrine's: 16 k (25k) - sorry I made a mistake, still not a bad hold and maybe this estimate is as much too low as it was last week Sausage Party: 10k (19k) Blair Witch (2016): 6k (10k) Bad Moms: 24.5k(!) (22k) So if these numbers vaguely hold Inferno will probably be only #3 in this film series but it will not see a too hefty decrease or stay under 500k admissions I think. The holds (especially for Dory and Bad Moms) look good. Edited October 13, 2016 by el sid 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HH84 Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 First trend: Inferno 475k FD 425k MP 160k BM 110k SP 75k In the IK-Forum a user posted yesterdays numbers and FD had 68k and Inferno 66k. Don't be surprised, if FD is also above Inferno for the whole weekend. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) Yes, I would also bet on Dory. Inferno had no previews and so it was pressured to have a very good Thursday and that didn't work. Probably the reviews are just too muted and its target audience IS reading them. But there's also a good news: Miss Peregrine's was again underestimated by far and had 25k admissions (so it stayed flat). Blickpunkt Film's weekend estimate is 200k but normally insidekino.de has the better projections. Sausage Party had 12k admissions. Sadly no word about Swiss Army Man so far. Edited October 14, 2016 by el sid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 (edited) 2nd Trend: Inferno 425k Dory 425k (-26%) Miss Peregrine's 160k (-22%/-27%) Bad Moms 120k (-27%) Sausage Party 80k (-39%/-51%) Verrückt nach Fixi 60k Pets 50k (+/-0%) Blair Witch 40k (-44%) Tschick 37,5k (-26%) War Dogs 37,5k (-36%) Snowden 25k (-48%) M7 25k (-57%) SMS für dich 25k (-48%) Weather was good today - I don't know if those holds hold. But I'm hoping Edited October 15, 2016 by Aristis 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted October 15, 2016 Author Share Posted October 15, 2016 That's not good for Inferno at all ... good for Dory of course! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 Could Pets still reach Zoo? If it has 50k again this week there are probably less than 125k missing... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted October 16, 2016 Author Share Posted October 16, 2016 Final trend, no big changes ... close race between Inferno and Dory for #1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted October 16, 2016 Share Posted October 16, 2016 1 hour ago, IndustriousAngel said: Final trend, no big changes ... close race between Inferno and Dory for #1 inferno may gross larger as the ticket price may be higher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted October 16, 2016 Author Share Posted October 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, titanic2187 said: inferno may gross larger as the ticket price may be higher Possible, but Dory had a really high ticket price for a family release Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share Posted October 17, 2016 Final results see Dory in front with 415k admissions; Inferno dropped to 405k but should be leading in €. In Austria, Dory's lead was even more comfortable (50k vs. 40k) Concerning Inferno: That's really a horrible drop from prior entries - down from 1.6mil and 1,0mil to 0,4mil - looking at this trend, a hypothetic sequel will open to negative admission numbers 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efialtes76 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Dory 415/2600Inferno 405 Peregrine 155/460Bad Moms 115/1015Sausage 82,5 Fixi 55 Blair Witch 42,5 Pets 42,5 War Dogs 37,5 Tschick 32,5 Snowden 27,5 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Finding Dory 413.471 783 528 2.601.388 22.416.355 -28 3 2 Inferno 407.745 662 616 407.745 3.718.940 - 1 3 Miss Peregrine's Home For Peculiar Children 155.864 523 298 462.979 4.668.025 -24 2 4 Bad Moms 114.181 489 233 1.015.046 8.296.965 -31 4 5 Sausage Party 81.967 401 204 286.911 2.300.579 -37 2 6 Verrückt nach Fixi 55.756 379 300 55.756 455.538 - 1 7 Blair Witch 43.160 263 164 135.445 1.190.130 -40 2 8 The Secret Life of Pets 41.912 528 79 3.694.881 30.364.510 -16 12 9 War Dogs 37.768 240 157 268.681 2.300.625 -36 3 10 Tschick 31.942 390 82 513.609 3.784.181 -37 5 11 Snowden 28.443 247 115 329.015 2.930.610 -42 4 12 SMS für Dich 25.113 344 73 689.247 5.603.551 -47 5 13 The Magnificent Seven 25.041 346 72 450.216 4.017.896 -57 4 14 Nerve 19.437 265 73 707.123 5.596.648 -44 6 15 Welcome to Norway 16.591 82 202 36.814 221.382 - 1 16 Conni & Co 15.525 392 40 507.997 3.166.260 -30 9 17 The Purge 3 14.874 238 62 587.315 4.979.129 -52 5 18 Frantz 14.268 103 139 92.886 722.274 -28 3 19 Cézanne et moi 12.717 78 163 41.911 317.513 -28 2 20 Die Welt der Wunderlichs 11.409 83 137 21.009 143.435 - 1 Both openers stayed below expectations and so Dory wins the weekend with a decent hold! But Peregrine's and Pets even dropped softer. Overall a good but not spectacular weekend, like so many before … especially Inferno was carrying some hopes; one more might-have-been blockbuster in a slow year. Next weekend: Bridget Jones's Baby, The Accountant, Ouija: Origin of Evil, Trolls and some more family and arthouse stuff - with Dory and Inferno and Peregrine's still going strong (I hope) this will be a very crowded weekend and screen allocations are a gamble. With ladies' events, Bridget should be the strongest movie on Wednesday - easily - but I'm not sure who will win the weekend (Thu-Sun) - it's been an awful lot of years and Dory might very well stay on top for the 4th time despite a lot more competition in the family market! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinaTakla Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 @IndustriousAngelWill Pets surpass Zootopia here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted October 18, 2016 Author Share Posted October 18, 2016 yes it will, but 4mil total are probably too far away at this point despite the good holds 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 35 minutes ago, MinaTakla said: @IndustriousAngelWill Pets surpass Zootopia here? I'm not Industrious but I'm answering It really should: It had 3 very good holds in a row now (+6%, -14%, -16%) It is only 115k behind after 40k weekend and 30k midweek There is still more holiday 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quigley Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Where is Dory's total headed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...