el sid Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 I swear, I will never say something is very anticipated here in Germany. Internet buzz means nothing. Since the numbers the nice member of insidekino.de often posts on Thursday vanished mysteriously yesterday, I don't know how close his estimates were to the actuals yesterday. But he said that PotC5 was only slightly under the admission numbers of Thursday today. Which also means that he did not overestimate it yesterday. These are the Friday estimates - hopefully it holds: PotC5: 156.5k A: C: 33k King Arthur: 15.5k Get Out: 7.5k GotG2: 20k Fast 8: 6k Other reports say the same (only slightly under yesterday). The problem could be last-minute-stornos due to the weather. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 2 hours ago, el sid said: I swear, I will never say something is very anticipated here in Germany. Internet buzz means nothing. Since the numbers the nice member of insidekino.de often posts on Thursday vanished mysteriously yesterday, I don't know how close his estimates were to the actuals yesterday. But he said that PotC5 was only slightly under the admission numbers of Thursday today. Which also means that he did not overestimate it yesterday. These are the Friday estimates - hopefully it holds: PotC5: 156.5k A: C: 33k King Arthur: 15.5k Get Out: 7.5k GotG2: 20k Fast 8: 6k Other reports say the same (only slightly under yesterday). The problem could be last-minute-stornos due to the weather. so is this a good or bad opening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, John Marston said: so is this a good or bad opening? Could be better. I hoped for more. But as I said with a rainy weekend 1M admissions would have been possible - very theoretically spoken. For the total everything depends on WOM (which isn't bad here too) and weather. The fine Thursday numbers show there's still interest. Edited May 26, 2017 by el sid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 The 2nd Trend is like the first - nearly everything is stable (Alien up to 85k). At least it did not go down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 1.193.025 - POTC11.924.778 - POTC 2 1.860.775 - POTC 31.330.679 - POTC 4 675,000 - POTC 5 est 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted May 27, 2017 Share Posted May 27, 2017 Weather is impacting it big time else it would have done 900k-1m for the weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketheavenger Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 3rd trend has everything down a bit. PotC5 only at 625k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 will it stay flat or barely drop next weekend since this is weather affected weekend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted May 28, 2017 Author Share Posted May 28, 2017 1 hour ago, keysersoze123 said: will it stay flat or barely drop next weekend since this is weather affected weekend? The problem is that Baywatch will get the biggest screens and best showtimes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 34 minutes ago, IndustriousAngel said: The problem is that Baywatch will get the biggest screens and best showtimes Baywatch? The competition could be worse. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 What a terrible number for PotC5 :(. And the rest is also disappointing. I really hope it was mostly the weather. That the other newcomer (a family film) is also heavily underperforming and that most films have lousy holds despite a bridge day and a national holiday speaks for the weather theory ;). Unfortunately it's predicted to continue to be pretty sunny but not so great and warm like this weekend. And maybe it changes like it did last week. Tomorrow many theaters will announce their program for the week and than we know more. I'm not sure which movie will get the biggest screens. PotC is a very big name and the moderate weekend numbers of Baywatch in the USA will make theaters hesitate even more. I think they'll wait how the previews do on Wednesday (Baywatch gets a middle big theater in mathäser e.g. and it looks not bad from reservations but also not like people were hyped) and than they will decide. But Baywatch could also be a movie with good legs, as strange as this sounds. Remember Dirty Grandpa: Not a great start but great holds (but that wasn't in the summer). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 The Monday update looks better for all films: #1 PotC5: 670k admissions (580k without previews) #2 A:C: 85k/375k #3 GotG2: 85k/2.230M #4 King Arthur: 45k/395k #5 Hanni & Nanni: 45k/55k #6 The Boss Baby: 27.5/1.785M #7 Get Out: 22.5/450k #8 Fast 8: 20k/3.185M 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketheavenger Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 So GotG2 has now officially passed Avengers' admissions and it could have enough juice to pass Avengers 2 (2.423m) to become the most-attended MCU movie in Germany. What a success story. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 It's indeed a split decision between PotC5 and Baywatch: Some big cinema chains give two days of the weekend to each movie, some others give Baywatch the biggest screen and PotC5 the second and third largest and sometimes PotC5 is in biggest cinema hall. The capacity of the theaters isn't the problem here, especially with almost no competition for these two movies. The reservations don't look bad for Baywatch I have to say but don't expect a too good hold (for PotC5) respectively start (for Baywatch) if the weather stays so sunny. Sunday is the first day which is predicted to be cloudy or even rainy. Wonder Woman starts here later than in other countries, June the 15th, and The Mummy has the same problem as in the USA, namely that it gets not much attention. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketheavenger Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Nr. Besucher Wochenende % Kinos Schnitt Besucher bis Sonntag Woche Titel (Verleih) Boxoffice in € Wochenende Boxoffice in € bis Sonntag Mögl. Endergebnis in Tsd. Besucher RT IMDB 1 577.366 --- 776 744 667.090 1 Pirates of the Caribbean - Salazars Rache (BV) 6.381.417 7.380.848 2.400 31 7,2 2 85.533 -55 587 146 375.971 2 Alien - Covenant (FOX) 809.973 3.501.547 525 71 6,8 3 84.446 -45 526 161 2.229.596 5 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (BV) 905.800 24.552.257 2.400 81 8,1 4 44.528 -55 597 75 396.067 3 King Arthur - Legend of the Sword (WB) 471.294 4.139.164 500 28 7,3 5 43.811 --- 637 69 52.703 1 Hanni & Nanni - Mehr als beste Freunde (U) 288.201 344.100 400 - - 6 27.199 -18 505 54 1.783.075 9 The Boss Baby (FOX) 196.040 13.299.159 1.850 52 6,4 7 23.010 -62 417 55 452.360 4 Get Out (U) 207.308 3.854.901 525 99 7,9 8 20.231 -57 337 60 3.189.912 7 Fast & Furious 8 (U) 196.429 29.917.188 3.225 66 7,1 9 17.530 -24 496 35 87.186 3 Überflieger - Kleine Vögel, großes Geklapper (WBU) 113.638 567.965 125 - 6,2 10 17.084 -22 512 33 1.172.071 8 Die Schlümpfe - Das verlorene Dorf (COL) 116.168 8.414.152 1.225 38 5,8 11 9.780 -51 305 32 3.338.962 11 Die Schöne und das Biest (BV) 89.338 32.317.898 3.375 71 7,6 12 8.085 -41 98 83 35.456 2 Jahrhundertfrauen (SPL) 64.924 266.154 60 88 7,4 13 7.367 -34 67 110 27.748 2 Beuys (PIF) 58.425 214.885 50 - 7,1 14 7.117 -55 227 31 434.007 7 Abgang mit Stil (WB) 61.991 3.674.510 450 46 6,8 15 6.026 -65 258 23 195.027 5 Happy Burnout (WB) 50.752 1.564.217 210 - 5,1 16 5.514 -48 223 25 254.477 8 Die Hütte - Ein Wochenende mit Gott (CON) 47.730 2.143.939 275 19 6,3 17 5.359 -49 198 27 144.758 6 Ein Dorf sieht schwarz (PRK) 39.995 1.103.197 160 - 7,1 18 4.893 -46 96 51 39.032 3 Rückkehr nach Montauk (WBU) 39.075 313.017 50 - 5,9 19 4.695 -2 188 25 100.296 4 Expedition Happiness (SCK) 45.012 926.105 110 - 5,4 20 4.289 --- 53 81 5.328 1 Song to Song (SC) 36.235 42.658 25 45 6,5 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketheavenger Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Since it hasn't been updated so far, I've posted the chart for the weekend if that's okay. Overall a disappointing weekend thanks to near-perfect weather. PotC5 opened much lower than the previous films (with rainy weather it could've done close to 1m) and 3m total seems hard unless it has great legs. Most other films experienced ugly drops, but family stuff held on nicely. Alien: Covenant might make around half of what Prometheus did, and GotG2 is now the second-most-attended MCU movie and it could still catch Avengers 2 to claim the top spot. Next weekend: Baywatch is the big opener for next weekend and it's a bit of a wildcard IMO. The TV show was huge here back in the '90s (maybe even bigger than it was in the US) and there is buzz, but the beautiful weather could keep it from its full potential. I expect an opening in the 350-400k range, which would be solid. Also opening are the new Diary of the Wimpy Kid and two domestic releases, none of which should make above 100k. Weather is predicted to be quite warm and sunny again (with some storms sprinkled in between), so don't expect great numbers. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 First trend is up, though weather can obviously still lead to bigger changes: #1/2 POTC 400k #1/2 Baywatch 400k (375k without previews) #3/4 GOTG 2 65k #3/4 Alien 65k #5 Hani & Nanni 35k 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) Some Thursday actuals (source Blickpunkt:Film): New Releases: Baywatch: 50k (released in 546 theaters, mixed, mostly modest reviews between 3 and ca. 7/10) Diary of a Wimpy Kid 4: 3.5k (376, mixed reviews, overall pretty bad) -> 35k OW predicted in the first trend Before I Fall: ?k (154, mostly pretty good reviews) -> 32.5k In Zeiten des abnehmenden Lichts: 3k (103, mixed reviews, overall quite good) -> 22.5k Holdovers: PotC5: 45k (actuals last Thursday (a national holiday) 200k) Alien: Covenant: 10k (27k) GotG2: 7k (27k) King Arthur: 4k (15k) The overall run of PotC5 in Germany is a big disappointment to me but the drop this weekend is absolutely in line with expectations. I really hope it has more luck in the next weeks and evolves good legs. Baywatch is doing really fine under these circumstances. The average prediction was more like 250k-300k OW, not 400k. The WOM among the audience is also ok so far. And funny, the original series is back in German TV since a few weeks. Not on a big TV station (it's RTL nitro) but with nice ratings (ca. 4-5% with the younger audience I read in an article). Maybe that helps too or better it shows which impact that thing had once (miketheavenger already mentioned it above) that it's still pretty popular. Even 16 years after the end of this series as I learned in the article ;). Edited June 2, 2017 by el sid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 (edited) In the 2nd Trend movies are down a bit... POTC5 375k (-35%/-44%) Baywatch 375k Alien 60k (-30%) GotG2 55k (-35%) Hanny&Nanny 37,5k (-15%/-30%) Diary Of A Wimpy Kid 35k Wenn du stirbst (...) 32,5k King Arthur 27,5k (-40%) I hope it'll go up withe next trend. It seems today is not that great, at least here it rained already InsideKino Edited June 3, 2017 by Aristis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketheavenger Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 3rd trend has everything going up again like we hoped. PotC5: 400k (-30%/-40%) Baywatch: 400k (really good start considering the weather) Alien - Covenant: 65k (-25%) GotG Vol. 2: 60k (-28%) 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...