Aristis Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 So with that hold from Bully (-44%) 2M has probably gone (I still had a slim hope). Will probably land about 1,85M. As for It, I have high hopes that It could be (at least a slim) breakout. It really could become the biggest King movie (or TOP3). 1 00 2,1M The Green Mile 2 80 2,0M Shining 3 89 1,7M Pet Sematary 4 87 1,4M Stand By Me 5 92 1,0M Sleepwalkers (from IK) I think It should top TGM for the biggest Opening Week (460k). I think It could open to over 500k (weekend) and then make it to 2M (just my opinion though). However I'm really excited for this movie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted September 16, 2017 Author Share Posted September 16, 2017 2nd estimates look better across the board; still a boring weekend but at least the trend is pointing upwards! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) 3rd Trend Most movies are stable. Big increase for Happy Family (50k/-26%) and DM3 (35k/-42%) with that trend. Annabelle has a great hold again (65k/-29%), it still didn't fell 30%+ if that holds. It'll cross 500k (Annabelle1 had 469k). Edited September 17, 2017 by Aristis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted September 17, 2017 Author Share Posted September 17, 2017 those Annabelle holds are really far out, both the first one and Annabelle 2 are much leggier than any other horror releases. Strange, maybe some different marketing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said: those Annabelle holds are really far out, both the first one and Annabelle 2 are much leggier than any other horror releases. Strange, maybe some different marketing? Hard to say because I did not not see much marketing at all (but maybe I missed it). I saw a little bit of internet advertisement but otherwise almost nothing. It's probably the good WOM (although the reactions on moviewebsites don't look overwhelming). Or/and it's the big credit the films have because of the Conjuring-connection. For me, that helped a lot to make me want to see it. But I'm mostly a fan of horror films and even liked the first one, so it could be that I'm not objective enough. I'm curious how "It" will do here. The giant success in the USA will, better said has caused a lot more interest. My prefered cinema, the mathäser, gives "It" four showtimes (two are normal for bigger films) on Wednesday the 27th and the reservations look really good (about the half of the seats are already occupied in the biggest cinema hall). Edited September 17, 2017 by el sid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 Monday numbers: High Society 125k/152,5k Bully 105k/1,645M -41% Circle 77,5k/235k -22%/-37%mother! 70kLogan Lucky 70k/100k American Made 65k/250k -42%/-53% Annabelle2 62,5k/510k -31% (seems like it's a 30%+ drop, but still great - passed Annabelle1. Will pass 600k, 28% abobe the first) Happy Family 47,5k/315k -30% Pfefferkörner 40k -29%/-37% DM3 35k/4,45M -42% (will end between 4,5M and 4,6M) Bodyguard 32,5k -46% Griessnockerl 32,5k/740k -26% (This movie is a great Box Office Story ) Emoji 22,5k -39% Ostwind 22,5k -41% Jugend 22,5k -37% InsideKino The weekend had bad weather but this didn't really help... I do not want to imagine what admissions would have been with better weather... Time for the German Box Office to wake up! Next weekend Kingsman and Ninjago will hopefully do more than 200k each (for Kingsman I have hopes it could maybe do even more than 300k ). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 As for It: I have heard that it has some funny parts (and funny is always good for Germans ). I will be the first time that I'll see a real horror movie in cinema (World War Z wasn't horror). I really think this could be big! I didn't find a list of the highest OW for Horror movies, but the biggest shoul be FSK16. So maybe this list has them: http://www.insidekino.de/DJahr/DBOStartrekord16.htm If I am Legend (1,07M) and Scary Movie (850k) aren't Horror than maybe Scream3 is the biggest with 749k? It should be able to do more than WWZ (505k)... Cars3 will probably be the movie for people who are afraid of It I have the feeling that it could open higher than Ninjago... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 22 hours ago, el sid said: Hard to say because I did not not see much marketing at all (but maybe I missed it). I saw a little bit of internet advertisement but otherwise almost nothing. It's probably the good WOM (although the reactions on moviewebsites don't look overwhelming). Or/and it's the big credit the films have because of the Conjuring-connection. For me, that helped a lot to make me want to see it. But I'm mostly a fan of horror films and even liked the first one, so it could be that I'm not objective enough. I'm curious how "It" will do here. The giant success in the USA will, better said has caused a lot more interest. My prefered cinema, the mathäser, gives "It" four showtimes (two are normal for bigger films) on Wednesday the 27th and the reservations look really good (about the half of the seats are already occupied in the biggest cinema hall). but I dont supposed german like horror, their gross for horror like conjuring 1,2 and Annabelle , tends to make about half of france.....so how is the performance of IT in france could suggest IT's prospect in germany.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted September 19, 2017 Author Share Posted September 19, 2017 Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 High Society 124.559 418 298 151.897 1.275.247 - 1 2 Bullyparade 104.598 698 150 1.653.262 13.348.404 -41 5 3 The Circle 76.387 332 230 234.193 1.935.238 -24 2 4 Logan Lucky 70.308 358 196 100.723 776.648 - 1 5 mother! 69.895 350 200 69.895 646.238 - 1 6 American Made 64.764 490 132 234.029 1.967.384 -42 2 7 Annabelle 2 61.647 468 132 512.681 4.574.164 -32 4 8 Happy Family 47.214 622 76 319.365 2.290.841 -30 4 9 Die Pfefferkörner und der Fluch … 40.819 491 83 113.165 735.866 -27 2 10 Despicable Me 3 35.346 513 69 4.458.906 735.866 -41 11 11 The Hitman's Bodyguard 33.586 490 69 247.262 2.124.254 -44 3 12 Grießnockerlaffäre 32.904 398 83 747.536 5.873.648 -25 7 13 Ostwind 3 23.323 530 44 1.019.303 6.835.903 -38 8 14 Emoji 23.321 462 50 606.670 4.372.241 -37 7 15 Jugend ohne Gott 22.076 325 68 156.598 1.229.686 -39 3 16 Bigfoot Junior 17.897 427 42 232.584 1.644.806 -39 5 17 Tulip Fever 15.543 251 62 154.049 1.254.946 -37 4 18 Atomic Blonde 10.674 249 43 267.089 2.208.856 -65 4 19 Weit. Die Geschichte von einem Weg … 10.273 125 82 215.168 1.662.081 +8 15 20 Magical Mystery oder Die Rückkehr … 10.035 98 102 80.348 639.102 -42 3 Awful weekend, look at those PTAs … let's move on to Next weekend: A lot of new releases, two of which should dominate the boxoffice (no big feat at the moment, I know …) - The Lego Ninjago Movie and Kingsman 2. Not exactly blockbuster material (both will be lucky to get somewhere near 1mil total) but a 200k opening weekend is possible for both (frankly, I have no idea how popular the Ninjago brand is with kids, other than with the LEGO movie I can't see many grownups attending). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinaTakla Posted September 20, 2017 Share Posted September 20, 2017 (edited) Mark G: Highest grossing CGI Animated films of all time in Germany - DM3 now in now #7 in the all-time top 10! In euro: 57,92 Minions 56,53 IA3 52,04 IA4 48,75 IA2 46,35 Finding Nemo 39,21 IA1 36,66 DM3 Edited September 20, 2017 by MinaTakla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted September 20, 2017 Author Share Posted September 20, 2017 Ice Age has always been a phenomenon in Germany, probably because of the good dubbing choices, but Minions was really the surprise, I mean the movie wasn't even that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 (edited) Some Thursday estimates from insidekino.de/forum: New releases: Kingsman - The Golden Circle: 47k (released in 601 theaters, with few exceptions the film gets ok, good or very good reviews, the first Kingsman movie had 191.405 admissions OW (785.407 total)) – seems to do quite fine if this number holds The Ninjago Movie: ?k (558, ok and good reviews) Hereinspaziert! / À bras ouverts: 2k (194, very mixed reviews between 0 and 8/10) Norman: 1k (105, good reviews) Schloss aus Glas: 1.2k (101, ok to very good reviews) Holdovers: High Society: 8k (actuals last Thursday 16k) The Circle: 4k (11k) Bullyparade: 4k (10k) Annabelle 2: 3k mother!: 2.5k (10k) – this number can't be true or WOM is really toxic American Made: 2.5k (no number of last Thursday for comparison but 2.5k would also be a hefty decline) Lucky Logan: 2k (10k) - almost unbelievable low Grießnockerlaffäre: 2k All holdovers seem to have big problems today (due to Kingsman 2 probably and maybe The Ninjago Movie and also because the films lost so many screens). Hopefully these estimates are just a little bit too low and walk ups are stronger. Other reports e.g. the "South-West-report" show smaller declines but overall it just looks like the older movies won't have a nice weekend. But don't forget that all these reports ignore the walk ups so there's still some hope till the first trend is up tomorrow. Edited September 21, 2017 by el sid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted September 22, 2017 Author Share Posted September 22, 2017 Early weekend estimates: #1: Kingsman2 - 225k incl previews, ok but not more than the first one #2: LegoNinjago - 140k, that's only half of the earlier LEGO movies #3: HighSociety - 90k (-27%) Once more, boring weekend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, IndustriousAngel said: Early weekend estimates: #1: Kingsman2 - 225k incl previews, ok but not more than the first one #2: LegoNinjago - 140k, that's only half of the earlier LEGO movies #3: HighSociety - 90k (-27%) Once more, boring weekend. That is awful... Hopefully the movies can pick up over the weekend. It has to break out, there is no way that there isn't any movie that really works this year (more than suspected) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinaTakla Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Aristis said: That is awful... Hopefully the movies can pick up over the weekend. It has to break out, there is no way that there isn't any movie that really works this year (more than suspected) DM3 is the only film that didn't disappoint or underwhelm in Germany this summer. The market has been seeing a big decline in interest, just like Italy. Compared to UK and France, both Germany and Italy are on a big decline as a major box office market I would say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeepItU25071906 Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, IndustriousAngel said: Early weekend estimates: #1: Kingsman2 - 225k incl previews, ok but not more than the first one #2: LegoNinjago - 140k, that's only half of the earlier LEGO movies #3: HighSociety - 90k (-27%) Once more, boring weekend. Germany is so dissapointed this year. I don't remember any huge result for decent movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 10 minutes ago, MinaTakla said: DM3 is the only film that didn't disappoint or underwhelm in Germany this summer. The market has been seeing a big decline in interest, just like Italy. Compared to UK and France, both Germany and Italy are on a big decline as a major box office market I would say. DM3 is still down 35% compared to Minions, that decline should have been bigger (even if it's up 20% from DM2). It seems Minions could be the peak of this franchise here... But the list of big movies that did good/better than expected isn't long. I would say BatB (3,4M), GotG2 (2,5M), (maybe Baywatch (1,97M)), Boss Baby (1,97M), La La Land (1,76M) and maybe Split (1,22M). There is not much I have hopes in. It, Fack ju Göhte (local), SW VIII. 2M admissions could (under very good circumstances) get Thor3 (it has a very interesting opening date, Tuesday 31st October to have two days of holiday), Bad Moms 2 (the first one had 1,3M admissions but Baywatch didn't get to 2M so probably not), Justice League (well, if not than Germany really doesn't like DC), Happy Death Day, Paddington 2 (the first had 2,05M), Coco, Jumanji and two local comedies at the end of the year (Dieses bescheuerte Herz (That stupid heart) and Jung Brutal Gutaussehend (Young Brutally Good looking, but I do not know much about these) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinaTakla Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Aristis said: DM3 is still down 35% compared to Minions, that decline should have been bigger (even if it's up 20% from DM2). It seems Minions could be the peak of this franchise here... But the list of big movies that did good/better than expected isn't long. I would say BatB (3,4M), GotG2 (2,5M), (maybe Baywatch (1,97M)), Boss Baby (1,97M), La La Land (1,76M) and maybe Split (1,22M). There is not much I have hopes in. It, Fack ju Göhte (local), SW VIII. 2M admissions could (under very good circumstances) get Thor3 (it has a very interesting opening date, Tuesday 31st October to have two days of holiday), Bad Moms 2 (the first one had 1,3M admissions but Baywatch didn't get to 2M so probably not), Justice League (well, if not than Germany really doesn't like DC), Happy Death Day, Paddington 2 (the first had 2,05M), Coco, Jumanji and two local comedies at the end of the year (Dieses bescheuerte Herz (That stupid heart) and Jung Brutal Gutaussehend (Young Brutally Good looking, but I do not know much about these) I actually think Minions 2 will make more than DM3 in Germany actually. 5M admissions plus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted September 22, 2017 Author Share Posted September 22, 2017 The only betteer-than-expected release in recent months was Grießnockerlaffäre which managed a sizeable increase from the three predecessors' numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brainbug Posted September 22, 2017 Share Posted September 22, 2017 Its the combination of absurdly high ticket prices and rather unappealing movies in the last months. Im positive that IT will be a major breakout (for horror standards). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...