altglascontainer Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) Avatar 2 (Dec 14th) Ba-Wü Preview Seat Report T-9 Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold Total 0 238 5,028 47,678 10.55% Total Seats Sold Last 12 Days: 3,577 Comp 3.409x The Batman T-9 (1.75M€/167.500 Adm. OD) 0.928x DS 2 T-9 (1.58M€/149.500 Adm. OD) 2.763x Thor LT T-9 (3.18M€/304.750 Adm. OD) JWLK - missed TGM - missed BPWF - missed Insanse uptick for Avatar 2 in presales. Nearly level with DS 2 presales at the same point. Just for comparison the Final numbers (t-0) of BP2, Top Gun and The Batman. Black Panther 2: 5,444 Top Gun Maverick: 5,775 The Batman: 4,513 So 9 days out Avatar has nearly eclipsed the final presale numbers of BP2 or TGM or has already eclipsed it (batman). This movie is in its own stratosphere together with DS 2. I'm really excited if 300k OD can happen. Edited December 5, 2022 by altglascontainer more context 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 (edited) I'm surprised though that DS2 manages to keep pace with Avatar so far. Comic book movies aren't that successful usually. It sold "only" 2.2m tickets altogether. Edited December 5, 2022 by Elessar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 6, 2022 Author Share Posted December 6, 2022 Germany's Top12 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Black Panther 2 99.790 515 194 1.243.963 14.354.081 -31 1 2 Einfach mal was Schönes 59.198 711 83 388.193 3.621.275 -21 3 3 Strange World 50.159 505 99 120.736 1.002.099 -19 2 4 Violent Night 44.733 410 109 44.898 448.147 - 1 5 The Menu 38.426 382 101 187.257 1.765.573 -11 3 6 Die Schule der magischen Tiere 2 31.985 633 51 2.298.279 16.835.167 -10 10 7 Teddybjørnens jul 28.296 563 50 90.488 695.444 +31 3 8 Hui Buh und das Hexenschloss 27.354 646 42 405.082 3.125.913 -18 5 9 Rheingold 26.553 395 67 902.541 9.110.430 -30 6 10 Der Nachname 16.524 536 31 738.512 6.958.353 -14 7 11 Black Adam 12.810 272 47 995.085 9.761.262 -22 7 12 Triangle of Sadness 11.383 178 64 349.680 3.354.627 -8 8 One more horrible wekend … drops were not too harsh but with no big opener, business was extremly bad. Same in Austria … Next weekend: With "Der Räuber Hotzenplotz", there's one more popular children's book adaption - probably not that big an opening but hopefully it can reach 1mil total or more during the holidays. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) On 12/5/2022 at 2:50 PM, altglascontainer said: Avatar 2 (Dec 14th) Ba-Wü Preview Seat Report T-9 Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold Total 0 238 5,028 47,678 10.55% Total Seats Sold Last 12 Days: 3,577 Comp 3.409x The Batman T-9 (1.75M€/167.500 Adm. OD) 0.928x DS 2 T-9 (1.58M€/149.500 Adm. OD) 2.763x Thor LT T-9 (3.18M€/304.750 Adm. OD) JWLK - missed TGM - missed BPWF - missed Insanse uptick for Avatar 2 in presales. Nearly level with DS 2 presales at the same point. Just for comparison the Final numbers (t-0) of BP2, Top Gun and The Batman. Black Panther 2: 5,444 Top Gun Maverick: 5,775 The Batman: 4,513 So 9 days out Avatar has nearly eclipsed the final presale numbers of BP2 or TGM or has already eclipsed it (batman). This movie is in its own stratosphere together with DS 2. I'm really excited if 300k OD can happen. Wonder how Semi Final will impact OD, but can have strong hold on THU. T-21 - D 3298, A 1451, T 503 T-9 - D 5418, A 5028, T 1819 D added 2120 A added 3577 T added 1316 If it follow D, it will reach 17K If it follow T, it will reach 19K That will point 216-300K OD, without World Cup impact. Edited December 7, 2022 by charlie Jatinder 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altglascontainer Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 Avatar 2 (Dec 14th) Ba-Wü Preview Seat Report T-7 Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold Total 2 272 6,277 53,897 11.65% Total Seats Sold Last 2 Days: 1,249 Comp 0.983x DS 2 T-7 (1.68M€/158.250 Adm. OD) 2.373x Thor LT T-7 (2.73M€/261.750 Adm. OD) 3.666x JW3 T-7 (4.21M€/369.000 Adm. OD) The Batman - missed TGM - missed BPWF - missed Another great progress for Avatar 2. Nearly Level with DS 2 presales, but the trajectory looks like it will overtake it pretty soon. I cant really predict a number, because data is still too much scattered. Tomorrow i will have all comps with data, so maybe we will get a clearer picture. As of Today Avatar 2 has eclipsed every final Presale Number except for Thor and DS2. Thor will be eclipsed tomorrow and DS2 should be eclipesd at t-1 or t-0. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altglascontainer Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 Avatar 2 (Dec 14th) Ba-Wü Preview Seat Report T-6 Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold Total 2 272 7,358 53,897 13.65% Total Seats Sold Last Day: 1,081 Comp 1.049x DS 2 T-6 (1.79M€/168.850 Adm. OD) 2.297x Thor LT T-6 (2.65M€/253.250 Adm. OD) 3.844x JW3 T-6 (4.41M€/386.750 Adm. OD) 3.854x The Batman T-6 (1.96M€/189.250 Adm. OD) 2.625x TGM T-6 (2.23M€/218.000 Adm. OD) 3.038x BP WF T-6 (2.59M€/225.619 Adm. OD) Ok, this is getting out of hand. Avatar 2 overtook DS2 at the same point of presales. Cautiously optimistic prediction OD: 300 - 330k. 4 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 (edited) I finally bought my ticket today for Wednesday evening - and probably to the surprise of no one it was the most expensive ever, 18,50€ or $19,4. I really wonder what the ATP will be like 👀 Edited December 8, 2022 by Aristis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, Aristis said: I really wonder what the ATP will be like 👀 14-15 most likely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 Early estimates for Germany's weekend from insidekino.de: #1: Hotzenplotz - 150k incl. previews #2: BP2 - 75k #3: Einfach mal - 50k at least an ok start for the domestic children's book adaption which should do well across the holidays (and got some pretty favourable reviews). Otherwise, still horrible. (some very "good" holds but from a deflated level ...) 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altglascontainer Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, IndustriousAngel said: Early estimates for Germany's weekend from insidekino.de: #1: Hotzenplotz - 150k incl. previews #2: BP2 - 75k #3: Einfach mal - 50k at least an ok start for the domestic children's book adaption which should do well across the holidays (and got some pretty favourable reviews). Otherwise, still horrible. (some very "good" holds but from a deflated level ...) Damn BP2 fell off a cliff. Beating BP1 is a fever dream now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) On 12/2/2022 at 9:46 AM, Aristis said: Thursday #1 ...was Schönes 10k (-26%) [€85k] #2 BP2 7,5k (-50%) [€80k] #3 Violent Night 4,5k [€40k] #4 The Menu ~4,5k (-31%) [~€40k] #5 Rheingold 2,5k (-50%) [€25k] Thursday #1 Terrifier 2 11,3k [€120k] #2 ...was Schönes 8k (-20%) [€72k] #3 Hotzenplotz 7,5k [€50k] #4 BP2 7,3k (-3%) [€80k] #5 The Nutcracker 4,7k [€110k] #6 She said 4,5k [€40k] Is the TP for this Nutcracker event for real? 23,40€ is probably more than Avatar could ever reach 👀 Edited December 9, 2022 by Aristis 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Aristis said: Is the TP for this Nutcracker event for real? 23,40€ is probably more than Avatar could ever reach 👀 those events are pretty expensive ... for example, next week's "The Hours" from the Met is €35,-- per seat. And already 50% sold. Obviously (as in real operas) the real price will be lower since most people interested in these shows have an abo for all 8 events. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldbird Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 19 hours ago, Aristis said: I finally bought my ticket today for Wednesday evening - and probably to the surprise of no one it was the most expensive ever, 18,50€ or $19,4. I really wonder what the ATP will be like 👀 My ticket for 3D on wednesday afternoon in munich cost 15€. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 20 minutes ago, Coldbird said: My ticket for 3D on wednesday afternoon in munich cost 15€. That sounds quite cheap for Munich actually... My repeat viewings will probably be cheaper, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 The second trend from insidekino.de: #1 Der Räuber Hotzenplotz 125k #2 Black Panther - Wakanda Forever 70k #3 Einfach mal was Schönes 47.5k #4 Violent Night 37.5k #5 Strange World 37.5k #6 Terrifier 2 35k #7 Ein Weihnachtsfest für Teddy 35k #8 She Said 35k #9 The Menu 30k Even worse. But as @IndustriousAngel said, at least the holds of several films with modest starts are quite good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 On 12/8/2022 at 10:25 PM, altglascontainer said: Avatar 2 (Dec 14th) Ba-Wü Preview Seat Report T-6 Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold Total 2 272 7,358 53,897 13.65% Total Seats Sold Last Day: 1,081 Comp 1.049x DS 2 T-6 (1.79M€/168.850 Adm. OD) 2.297x Thor LT T-6 (2.65M€/253.250 Adm. OD) 3.844x JW3 T-6 (4.41M€/386.750 Adm. OD) 3.854x The Batman T-6 (1.96M€/189.250 Adm. OD) 2.625x TGM T-6 (2.23M€/218.000 Adm. OD) 3.038x BP WF T-6 (2.59M€/225.619 Adm. OD) Ok, this is getting out of hand. Avatar 2 overtook DS2 at the same point of presales. Cautiously optimistic prediction OD: 300 - 330k. Not liking Thor comp dropping like that, though need to look more in detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altglascontainer Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 Monday-Trend: Räuber Hotzenplotz 122,5T Black Panther Wakanda Forever 72,5T Einfach mal was Schönes 45T Terrifier 2 37,5T Strange World 37,5T Violent Night 37,5T 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altglascontainer Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 On 12/8/2022 at 5:55 PM, altglascontainer said: Avatar 2 (Dec 14th) Ba-Wü Preview Seat Report T-6 Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold Total 2 272 7,358 53,897 13.65% Total Seats Sold Last Day: 1,081 Comp 1.049x DS 2 T-6 (1.79M€/168.850 Adm. OD) 2.297x Thor LT T-6 (2.65M€/253.250 Adm. OD) 3.844x JW3 T-6 (4.41M€/386.750 Adm. OD) 3.854x The Batman T-6 (1.96M€/189.250 Adm. OD) 2.625x TGM T-6 (2.23M€/218.000 Adm. OD) 3.038x BP WF T-6 (2.59M€/225.619 Adm. OD) Ok, this is getting out of hand. Avatar 2 overtook DS2 at the same point of presales. Cautiously optimistic prediction OD: 300 - 330k. Avatar 2 (Dec 14th) Ba-Wü Preview Seat Report T-2 Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold Total 2 275 9,775 54,350 17.99% Total Seats Sold Last 4 Days: 2,417 Comp 1.025x DS 2 T-2 (1.75M€/165.000 Adm. OD) 1.968x Thor LT T-2 (2.27M€/217.000 Adm. OD) 2.537x JW3 T-2 (2.91M€/255.250 Adm. OD) The Batman - missed TGM - missed 2.516x BP WF T-2 (2.14M€/186.750 Adm. OD) Hmm, all comps dropped relatively high. will wait for tommorow when all comps have data, but as things stand right now my prediction was a little too optimistic and will have to be corrected down. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altglascontainer Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Avatar 2 (Dec 14th) Ba-Wü Preview Seat Report T-1 Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold Total 1 275 10,743 54,350 19.77% Total Seats Sold Last Days: 968 Comp 0.980x DS 2 T-1 (1.67M€/157.750 Adm. OD) 1.825x Thor LT T-1 (2.10M€/201.250 Adm. OD) 2.201x JW3 T-1 (2.53M€/221.500 Adm. OD) 2.937x The Batman T-1 (1.49M€/144.250 Adm. OD) 2.181x TGM T-1 (1.85M€/181.250 Adm. OD) 2.372x BP WF T-1 (2.01M€/176.000 Adm. OD) Okay from bad to worse. It seems like Avatar 2 has lost steam presale wise. I mean the presales are not bad, but i expected a little bit more. For Comparison presales between T-2 to T-1. DS 2 1.426 JWD 1.028 Thor 917 I expected something more like DS2. With this slight downward trend im giving a more pessimistic Prediction of 170k - 220k. This would still be the best OD of the year, if it does the bare minimum of 170k. For reasons to this downward trend im guessing flu season. i have many many showings which dropped like 2-5 seats. But this is just a shot in the dark. Presales are nonetheless pretty good, as of right now second best to DS2. Lets wait for the grande finale tomorrow. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustLurking Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I don't think it's flu season, it just seems to be in line with everywhere else in lacking that final PS push. We shall see what happens with walkups but the ending of its PS run is shaping up to be pretty disappointing. Going down on SH comps is just not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...