JohnnY Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 And another question for guys from Brazil here. Why Paulo Coelho biopic bombed so hard? Probably weak marketing, I had no idea this movie was going to be released. Plus, it's not like many people care about Paulo Coelho, he's actually seen as a mediocre writer around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RthDeadWov Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Brazilian sources reported 13.34 mln R$. That would be 5.9 mln $. But mojo reported only 5.68 mln. Can anyone explain the difference? I posted stuff before about mojo and wrong data..I hadn't realised of late that Brazil is so far off. Before I continue one thing worth noting is the top films weekend/week by countries reports on mojo the majority DO NOT come from official reporting agencies, taking Australia as example neither Rentrak nor MPDAA (Official agency) give mojo anything they get Aus data from trolling web and/or source willing to give them a report on a country , maybe a figure on a film they got from a studio, This goes for majority countries. Now with Brazil in my investigation so far trying to make heads or tails or what they have been doing , As Brazil back in March switch from Friday starts to Thursday so weekend BO became Thu-Sun instead of Fri-Sun, So I first thought maybe they are somehow only getting Fri-sun figures still, but its not even that when I look at various films Thursday is not the missing component from a weekend number (note mojo is under on everything, case in point TMNT, GOTG OW is under by $R 634k, Apes under by r500k) The other thing is Exchange rates, now most of the country data is in local and then gets converted to $us, It could be that where ever mojo gets Brazil data from they are most of the time getting it in $us and converting and it doesn't match local at all, however that doesn't seem to be the case with everything I've looked at so far, but I'd say this is the most likely conclusion what is happening most of the time(A lot of what I've written in other posts had to do with currency conversions) for now this is the actual top 10 for weekend in Real(rounded) and along side is what mojo has(which in some case is close) 1-TMNT 13.338m/13.338m (12.806m/12.806m) 2-GOTG 4.950m/32.334m (4.676m/31.898m) 3-Apes 3.636m/51.077m (3.491m/51.060m) 4-Vestido 3.212/9.229m (3.112m/8.890m) 5-AOE 704k/61.681m (642k/61.540m) 6-Pilgrim 599k/699k (698k/698k) 7-Chef 623k/721k (616k/713k) 8-blended 582k/22.684m (542k/22.812m) 9-TNJ 344k/344k (334k/334k) 10-TGBH 170k/4.820m (154k/4.867m) 11-HTTYD2 162k/54.476m (155k/55.366m) (thru we6 the cumes close(51.4 vs 51.5), but then in we7+ mojo cume jumps a lot example in we7 its became 53.3 vs 54.1 and mojos we7 in BRL was slighly less than actual , but the cume skyrockets, having said that in $us mojo cume is now about right so all is good in world ) 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 JAPAN BOX OFFICE REVENUES 2007 : $1.69B 2009 : $2.2B 2010 : $2.52B 2011 : $2.26 2012 : $2.45B 2013 : $1.99B Overall, the Japanese BO stagnated, and given the demographic trends it's unlikely to change. However it's still the third biggest BO market behind the USA and China, so it's not a market you should ignore. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 Better numbers than expected for GOTG according to BOM : $14.1m instead of $13.8m $20m is still reachable, please Brazil DO IT! It's the end of the line for Dragon 2 with 72% decrease over the previous weekend, it won't pass TASM2 and Puss in Boots...But who cares? It more than doubled Dragon 1, not a mean feat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Is GOTG doing bad numbers in Brazil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 Is GOTG doing bad numbers in Brazil?No,these numbers are good.GOTG is a new franchise with unknown characters so that's a good start.If we take the size of the market into account 14m in Brazil is like doing 28m in France,and given it will be around 20m at the end of its run that will be similar to 40m in France,so you can see it's doing well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 No,these numbers are good.GOTG is a new franchise with unknown characters so that's a good start.If we take the size of the market into account 14m in Brazil is like doing 28m in France,and given it will be around 20m at the end of its run that will be similar to 40m in France,so you can see it's doing well It just yesterday night I look through the forgein charts of TDW, TWS, and GOTG. There are al lot of markets were it's doing better then those 2 but brazil wasn't, so that is why wondred ; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 It just yesterday night I look through the forgein charts of TDW, TWS, and GOTG.There are al lot of markets were it's doing better then those 2 but brazil wasn't, so that is why wondred ;Thor and Captain America became very popular after the success of the Avengers that grossed 64m there. Brazil was one of its biggest territories so Thor and Cap are particularly strong brands there,it was hard for GOTG to compete with them,the exchange rate and the very weak economy don't help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalloFromGermany Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Can't wait for first numbers for TE3... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 (edited) Can't wait for first numbers for TE3... We'll have them by Sunday. Will it be bigger than TE2 or will it undergo TE3's fate in Russia and the US? That will be interesting. Edited August 21, 2014 by Fullbuster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efialtes76 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 (edited) Better numbers than expected for GOTG according to BOM : $14.1m instead of $13.8m $20m is still reachable, please Brazil DO IT! It's the end of the line for Dragon 2 with 72% decrease over the previous weekend, it won't pass TASM2 and Puss in Boots...But who cares? It more than doubled Dragon 1, not a mean feat $68,692 -71.1% 158 -158 $435 $24,537,656 Puss in Boots:$24,549,204. Edited August 21, 2014 by efialtes76 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 $68,692 -71.1% 158 -158 $435 $24,537,656 Puss in Boots:$24,549,204. Oops, I mistook Puss in Boots for Toy Story 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 Movies gross in Latin America as a single market (NEW ELEMENTS) Pirates of the Caribbean 3 Latin America : 58.2m Brazil : 15.8m Brazil's share : 27%Thor Latin America : 44.1m Brazil : 12.1m Brazil's share : 27.4%Spiderman 3 Latin America : 83.1m Brazil : 24.2m Brazil's share : 29% 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 Movies gross in Latin America as a single market (COMPLETE LIST, UPDATED) I thought it would be interesting to know how big Latin America would be if it was a single market.So I added every Latin American countries' gross. Brazil being the biggest LA market I think it's fitting,and I will show what is the share of Brazil in all this Latin American population : 603 million Brazilian population : 201 million Brazil's share : 33.3% The Avengers Latin America : 192.6m Brazil : 63.9m Brazil's share : 33.1% Despicable Me 2 Latin America : 190.6m Brazil : 35.5m Brazil's share : 18.6%Ice Age 4 Latin America : 179.4m Brazil : 44.5m Brazil's share : 25%Avatar Latin America : 161.4m Brazil : 58.2m Brazil's share : 36%Iron Man 3 Latin America : 152m Brazil : 47.9m Brazil's share : 31.5% Titanic Latin America : 147.7m Brazil : 70.5m Brazil's share : 47.7%Toy Story 3 Latin America : 134.1m Brazil : 24.9m Brazil's share : 18.6% Ice Age 3 Latin America : 130.5m Brazil : 45.4m Brazil's share : 34.8% Twilight Breaking Dawn Part 2 Latin America : 120.3m Brazil : 54.2m Brazil's share : 45% Monsters University Latin America : 112m Brazil : 16.5m Brazil's share : 14.7% Shrek Forever After Latin America : 108.9m Brazil : 40m Brazil's share : 36.7%Harry Potter DH2 Latin America : 108.1m Brazil : 35.7m Brazil's share : 33% Pirates of the Caribbean 4 Latin America : 97.5m Brazil : 30.4m Brazil's share : 31.2% The Dark Knight Rises Latin America : 97.3m Brazil : 27.1m Brazil's share : 27.8% Frozen Latin America : 90.3m Brazil : 21.7m Brazil's share : 24%The Amazing Spiderman Latin America : 89m Brazil : 30.4m Brazil's share : 34% Alice in Wonderland 2010 Latin America : 87.4m Brazil : 28.4m Brazil's share : 32.5% X-Men Days of Future Past Latin America : 84.6m Brazil : 28.8m Brazil's share : 34% Thor 2 Latin America : 84.1m Brazil : 27.8m Brazil's share : 33% Spiderman 3 Latin America : 83.1m Brazil : 24.2m Brazil's share : 29%Captain America 2 Latin America : 82.5m Brazil : 28.3m Brazil's share : 34.3%Transformers 3 Latin America : 81.7m Brazil : 22.3m Brazil's share : 27% The Amazing Spiderman 2 Latin America : 79.9m Brazil : 24.9m Brazil's share : 31.2% Puss in Boots Latin America : 75.8m Brazil : 24.5m Brazil's share : 32.3% Tangled Latin America : 75.6m Brazil : 24.3m Brazil's share : 32.1% Brave Latin America : 74m Brazil : 16.7m Brazil's share : 22.6% Twilight BD1 Latin America : 73.5m Brazil : 32.7m Brazil's share : 44.5% Cars 2 Latin America : 73m Brazil : 16.5m Brazil's share : 22.6% Twilight Eclipse Latin America : 68.6m Brazil : 30.5m Brazil's share : 44.5% Noah Latin America : 68.3m Brazil : 30.6m Brazil's share : 44.8% Wreck-It Ralph Latin America : 66.2m Brazil : 21.4m Brazil's share : 32.3% Twilight New Moon Latin America : 63.3m Brazil : 30.6m Brazil's share : 48.3% The Hobbit : An Unexpected Journey Latin America : 62.9m Brazil : 18.1m Brazil's share : 28.8% Man of Steel Latin America : 60.3m Brazil : 16m Brazil's share : 26.5% Life of Pi Latin America : 58.5m Brazil : 14.7m Brazil's share : 25.1% Pirates of the Caribbean 3 Latin America : 58.2m Brazil : 15.8m Brazil's share : 27% The Hobbit : The Desolation of Smaug Latin America : 57.8m Brazil : 17.8m Brazil's share : 30.8%The Hunger Games Catching Fire Latin America : 55.7m Brazil : 17.3m Brazil's share : 31% The Wolverine Latin America : 51m Brazil : 21.4m Brazil's share : 42% 300 Rise of an Empire Latin America : 50.7m Brazil : 17.4m Brazil's share : 34.3% Oz the Great and Powerful Latin America : 47.5m Brazil : 12.6m Brazil's share : 26.1% Despicable Me Latin America : 46m Brazil : 13.7m Brazil's share : 29.8% Iron Man 2 Latin America : 44.9m Brazil : 15.8m Brazil's share : 35.2% Thor Latin America : 44.1m Brazil : 12.1m Brazil's share : 27.4% The Hangover Part 2 Latin America : 39.3m Brazil : 16.9m Brazil's share : 43% Pacific Rim Latin America : 37.1m Brazil : 6.3m Brazil's share : 17% Skyfall Latin America : 36.8m Brazil : 14.6m Brazil's share : 39.7% How To Train Your Dragon Latin America : 36.4m Brazil : 11.4m Brazil's share : 31.1% The Hangover Part 3 Latin America : 35.9m Brazil : 16.3m Brazil's share : 45.4% Ted Latin America : 35.5m Brazil : 8.8m Brazil's share : 24.8% 300 Latin America : 32.9m Brazil : 11.2m Brazil's share : 34% The Hunger Games Latin America : 32.8m Brazil : 10.1m Brazil's share : 30.8% Twilight Latin America : 26.1m Brazil : 6.7m Brazil's share : 25.7% Cars Latin America : 25.6m Brazil : 8.2m Brazil's share : 32% American Reunion Latin America : 24.5m Brazil : 7.6m Brazil's share : 31% Bolt (2008, Disney) Latin America : 24.4m Brazil : 4.6m Brazil's share : 18.9% Django Unchained Latin America : 15.1m Brazil : 7m Brazil's share : 46.3% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 GERMANY BOX OFFICE REVENUES 2007 : $1.04B 2009 : $1.36B 2010: $1.22B 2011 : $1.33B 2012 : $1.35B 2013 : $1.36B Germany is pretty interesting as a market because despite it is most populated (80m inhabitants) than France (66m) or the UK (64m) it's a smaller market, the third biggest in Europe.The market stagnated these last few years. Russia's revenues reached $1.34B in 2013 so it could pass Germany this year, nothing is sure yet but it was expected to happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 THE EXPENDABLES 3 TRAILER IN PORTUGUESE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 'Barack Obama' standing for Brazilian congress In Brazil, where nicknames are everything, voters can now opt for a congressional candidate who goes by the name Barack Obama. He is black, like the US president, and running for congress in elections on October 5 for the ruling Workers Party. His real name is Claudio Henrique dos Anjos. A court has allowed the 45-year-old to run in the election with ballots that read "Barack Obama". On his website, he goes by the longer name Claudio Henrique Barack Obama. On Tuesday (local time, he formally presented his candidacy, and in the short time allotted him on television he launched the terse slogan "Vote for Barack Obama!" Electoral laws in Brazil give candidates leeway to choose the name they want to go by in campaigns. Here, people's nicknames are almost always more well-known than their real names. For instance, Edison Arantes do Nascimento is the football legend better known as Pele. http://www.3news.co.nz/Barack-Obama-standing-for-Brazilian-congress/tabid/417/articleID/357721/Default.aspx lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mockingjay Raphael Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 I'm expecting 7M to E3, and u guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 I'm expecting 7M to E3, and u guys?TE2 got 3.7m OW and given TE3's strong decreases elsewhere I will be cautious,I expect 5m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 I'm expecting 7M to E3, and u guys?TE2 got 3.7m OW and given TE3's strong decreases elsewhere I will be cautious,I expect 5m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...