April 14th-16th 2023 Weekend Thread | $900K previews for Renfield

[Austin]

42 minutes ago, Whydidyoudoit said:

I disagree. Animated would "bomb" like the original animated LOTR movie. The audiences-drawing novelty would be in a well-made, ambitious, LOTR style live-action film. 

Eh... With how they marketed this movie, I wouldn't see an animated Zelda "bombing". Not doing as much as Mario obviously but it would still profit.

[grey ghost]

1 minute ago, MightyDargon said:

The "provincialism" of the board's MCU fans is really starting to smell up the threads now. Even worse than the "no cultural impact" period for Avatar stuff.

 

What do you mean by provincialism?

 

And is it really mcu fans who are guilty of this?

[Kon]

7 minutes ago, RobrtmanAStarWarsReference said:

It was Chunky from DK64, not Kiddy

It's still a pretty big franchise. Breath of the Wild was huge both saleswise and impact on the game industry, and Tears of the Kingdom is almost guaranteed to be one of the biggest games of the year

Yeah. Zelda is a big IP too.

 

However, it would more difficult to adapt Zelda games, since these tend to have more story than Mario games.

 

A good amount of Zelda games fans wouldn't be happy if Ilumination creates a completely original story for the characters.

Edited April 16, 2023 by Kon

[MightyDargon]

4 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

 

What do you mean by provincialism?

 

And is it really mcu fans who are guilty of this?

The whole "only Marvel characters can support a franchise" thing is really getting old at this point. Other than Hulk the MCU phase 1 characters were generally not considered "draws" by most people until the MCU actually began. Certainly less of a draw than Link/Zelda has been in game terms for decades now.

 

DC fans are less guilty of this generally because Batman is still viewed as the flagship.

[MovieMan89]

Tears of the Kingdom is about to potentially have the biggest launch of any video game of all time if things like website traffic metrics for the game and its predecessors 6 year+ incredible longevity are anything to go by. 
 

A well done Zelda movie would be massive. Prob not Mario massive just bc you lose some of the casuals, but it could definitely be a LOTR sized hit if done right. 

[DAJK]

52 minutes ago, Whydidyoudoit said:

I disagree. Animated would "bomb" like the original animated LOTR movie. The audiences-drawing novelty would be in a well-made, ambitious, LOTR style live-action film. 

Mario just made 1.2B+ while D&D is going to struggle to reach 200M. A Puss in Boots 2/HTTYD style animated Zelda movie from someone like Dreamworks is likely the best way to go for this.

[MovieMan89]

Breath of the Wild has actually outsold all Mario games besides the original SMB, Mario Kart 8 and Mario Kart WIi for context.  Tears will likely sell even more. 

[MightyDargon]

1 minute ago, DAJK said:

Mario just made 1.2B+ while D&D is going to struggle to reach 200M. A Puss in Boots 2/HTTYD style animated Zelda movie from someone like Dreamworks is likely the best way to go for this.

Nah, should be ages 10 and up. Zelda isn't a "little kids game".

[ThomasNicole]

I´m very sad about D&D failure, the movie finally is released in Brazil and i could watch it yesterday, i had an amazing time 

 

It have an early 2000 vibe to it that fits so well with great balance between fantasy, action and comedy

 

The script is also very clever with it´s comedic dialogues and also finding a way of making exposition and conveniences being fun and justified 

 

Very strong direction as well, i´m very surprised how they pulled of so many good action sequences considering it´s their first big movie 

 

I really hope this finds an audience in PVOD and streaming, it´s a bit sad seeing Mario grossing such massive amounts and this one struggling this much at the same time, because it shows it´s just lack of interest 

[Michael Gary Scott]

1 minute ago, MightyDargon said:

Nah, should be ages 10 and up. Zelda isn't a "little kids game".

Neither is Mario

[Cheddar Please]

Is it just me or have we been witnessing OW deflation with blockbusters lately? No 200m+ OW since NWH, all of the movies that are on track to gross over 500m opened under 150m, not to mention inflation meaning that a 170m OW in 2019 translates to over 200m today

[screambaby]

2 minutes ago, Michael Gary Scott said:

Neither is Mario

Grace Randolph thinks  it's x rated

[MightyDargon]

3 minutes ago, Michael Gary Scott said:

Neither is Mario

Yes it is, I played my first Mario game when I was 7. It took me forever to get into Zelda by comparison. Much more complicated worlds and play style.

[ThomasNicole]

Astonishing numbers for Beau, i suspect it won´t be so great when it goes wide because the movie is divisive by design 

 

But i hope it can get to at least 25M DOM and 50M WW, it´s enough to save the movie from losing money in long term since it´s surely perform well on PVOD, streaming and collector´s edition phisical sales 

[MovieMan89]

With Zelda though you do have to nail the story aspect. Having it just be a fun time that feels like a video game like Mario won’t cut it there. 

[MightyDargon]

1 minute ago, screambaby said:

Grace Randolph thinks  it's x rated

Grace Randolph likes to sniff her own farts so that opinion checks out.

[screambaby]

Scream 6 crossed 60 million international. Almost 167 WW (s ream 2022 was 137)

[grey ghost]

13 minutes ago, MightyDargon said:

The whole "only Marvel characters can support a franchise" thing is really getting old at this point. Other than Hulk the MCU phase 1 characters were generally not considered "draws" by most people until the MCU actually began. Certainly less of a draw than Link/Zelda has been in game terms for decades now.

 

DC fans are less guilty of this generally because Batman is still viewed as the flagship.

 

 

Well it goes both ways because as an MCU fan I've been accused of forcing the NCU down people's throat when "not everything needs to be a cinematic universe".

[Brainbug]

The thing with Zelda and Mario is - in my opinion of course - that Mario is an instantly recognizable pop culture icon that literally everyone knows about. Zelda, while obviously beloved and well known especially in the gaming community, is not nearly in the same category. A Zelda movie - even if its really good - is not a surefire box office hit i think.

 

 

[MightyDargon]

1 minute ago, grey ghost said:

 

 

Well it goes both ways because as an MCU fan I've been accused of forcing the NCU down people's throat when "not everything needs to be a cinematic universe".

There is no "NCU" until Link appears in a Mario film.