TalismanRing Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 July 16, 2023 - Sunday Rank Title Release Date Daily Gross (Total) Admissions (Total) Number of Screens Revenue Share 1 Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One U.S. Jul 12, 2023 $3,615,872 ($14,200,360) 448,444 (1,768,015) 2,268 57.12% 2 Elemental U.S. Jun 14, 2023 $2,015,211 ($33,331,414) 257,308 (4,284,968) 1,286 31.83% 3 My Love China Aug 25, 2021 $180,466 ($1,954,225) 22,259 (253,260) 242 2.85% 4 THE ROUNDUP : NO WAY OUT South Korea May 31, 2023 $116,196 ($81,954,367) 16,861 (10,639,374) 610 1.83% 5 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse U.S. Jun 21, 2023 $99,939 ($7,092,136) 12,491 (873,911) 226 1.57% 6 Doraemon the Movie: Nobita`s Sky Utopia Japan Jul 08, 2023 $74,020 ($437,815) 9,863 (62,003) 249 1.16% 7 Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny U.S. Jun 28, 2023 $48,309 ($6,602,077) 6,262 (849,604) 280 0.76% 8 Pinocchio: A True Story Hungary Jul 13, 2023 $24,609 ($75,598) 3,460 (11,067) 208 0.38% 9 Beau Is Afraid U.S. Jul 05, 2023 $20,556 ($424,039) 2,479 (53,884) 76 0.32% 10 Detective Conan The Movie: Black Iron Submarine Japan Jul 20, 2023 $19,521 ($45,019) 2,030 (4,653) 13 0.3% 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 July 14, 2023 ~ Jul 16, 2023 Rank Title Release Date Weekly Gross (Total) Admissions (Total) Number of Screens Revenue Share 1 Mission: Impossible - Dead Reckoning Part One U.S. Jul 12, 2023 $9,760,569 ($14,200,360) 1,208,756 (1,768,015) 2,406 59.55% 2 Elemental U.S. Jun 14, 2023 $4,798,161 ($33,331,414) 612,479 (4,284,968) 1,286 29.27% 3 My Love China Aug 25, 2021 $430,069 ($1,954,225) 52,907 (253,260) 244 2.62% 4 THE ROUNDUP : NO WAY OUT South Korea May 31, 2023 $322,855 ($81,954,367) 47,019 (10,639,374) 665 1.96% 5 Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse U.S. Jun 21, 2023 $252,583 ($7,092,136) 31,108 (873,911) 226 1.54% 6 Doraemon the Movie: Nobita`s Sky Utopia Japan Jul 08, 2023 $149,245 ($437,815) 20,232 (62,003) 249 0.91% 7 Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny U.S. Jun 28, 2023 $146,339 ($6,602,077) 19,373 (849,604) 357 0.89% 8 Pinocchio: A True Story Hungary Jul 13, 2023 $55,347 ($75,598) 7,944 (11,067) 208 0.33% 9 Beau Is Afraid U.S. Jul 05, 2023 $64,476 ($424,039) 7,610 (53,884) 97 0.39% 10 Detective Conan The Movie: Black Iron Submarine Japan Jul 20, 2023 $45,019 ($45,019) 4,653 (4,653) 17 0.27% 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 On 7/10/2023 at 5:39 AM, pepsa said: CGV went from 8k to 15k by 13:20. Meaning it's outpacing last monday in walkups. Last monday it managed to get 20k by 13:20 and made another 13k after that for a 33k finish. I am quite confident it will match the 20k by 15:20 figuer. So it shoudn't decrease in the CGV chain this week. However currently it is looking like it will need a higher CGV finish to get the same total because of a lower CGV ratio. PS sunday at midnight where 33.2k vs 43.2k last week, so down 10k or 23.1% vs last week. PS should be a good indication for the drop we are looking at this weekend. Though walk ups will probably make up a bit for that. Then again walk ups can be offset by a lower CGV ratio. To keep PS pase (%wise) with last week we should get to 45.7k by the end of the day, should be doable, hopefully it can gain a bit. Wow this was scarily accurate, should I lock in a 5% drop next weekend right now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Are schools finally letting out this week - and is it a national date or do different cities and schools have different vacation dates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) By this time next week, Elemental will be in the top 50 of Imported Films in Korea. 🤯 Just needs to pass Thor: Ragnarok at 4,858,572 admits. Edited July 16, 2023 by cannastop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1006 Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 2 hours ago, TalismanRing said: Are schools finally letting out this week - and is it a national date or do different cities and schools have different vacation dates? Each school has different vacation dates. I think for most schools, summer vacation starts around July 20th and ends around August 20th, with middle/high schools having shorter breaks than elementary schools. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) On 7/10/2023 at 1:33 AM, TalismanRing said: Elemental MONDAY (starting with 1041 screens - 30 less than previous Monday finish.) (END -1188 screens) 12am: 18,338 9am: 20,684 11am: 25,423 1pm: 32,139 3pm: 42,058 5pm: 53,828 7pm: 65,602 9pm: 74,361 11pm: 77,828 END: 78,289 Monday July 17 Time / Total / Walkups Elemental 00:00 / 14,418 (-21%) / - 15:00 / 35,326 (-16%) / 20,908 (-12%) 17:00 / 43,599 (-19%) / 29,181 (-18%) 19:00 / 51,369 (-22%) / 36,951 (-22%) 21:00 / 57,324 (-23%) / 42,906 (-23%) 23:00 / 59,873 (-23%) / 45,455 (-24%) FINAL / 60,298 (-23% LW, -77% YD) / 45,880 (-23%) 3,813 showings (-22% LW), 15.8 PSA (-1% LW) MI7 00:00 / 36,691/ - 15:00 / 85,336 / 48,645 17:00 / 100,539 / 63,848 19:00 / 113,338 / 76,647 21:00 / 124,312 / 87,621 23:00 / 128,552 / 91,861 FINAL / 129,152 (-71% YD) / 92,461 8,401 showings 15.4 PSA Curiously, both Elemental and MI7 lost a large number of showings from the weekend to some of the smaller holdovers. Edited July 17, 2023 by IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) Based on the walkups I'm thinking 66-69k for Elemental (-12-16% LW) and 126-133k for MI7 (-70-72% Sun). Elemental's walkups are already back to nearly 90% of last week's. Edit: 19:00 and I'm thinking closer to ~60k for Elemental (-24%), it's dropped harder in the evening probably because I think MI7 proportionally took more of its evening shows, still a good drop when you remember last Monday did not have MI7. MI7 itself is still tracking for ~130k. Edited July 17, 2023 by IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 hour ago, IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son said: Based on the walkups I'm thinking 66-69k for Elemental (-12-16% LW) and 126-133k for MI7 (-70-72% Sun). Elemental's walkups are already back to nearly 90% of last week's. Weekdays should hold better cause it might be hard to jumps as high on friday and defintly on saturday this weekend. I will try to see if I can find PS for previous Conan movie because a 300-500k movies opening shoudn't do to much. Though conan will capture some of Elemental audience even if it isn't big. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2023/07/17/business/industry/CJ-CGV-Lotte-Cinema-Megabox/20230717165313345.html Interesting article about the rising ticket prices in SK turning away moviegoers, CGV having to sell its own stock to raise capital, and a general absence of mid-budget/mid-tier movies (1m+ tickets sold). Sounds very similar to the situation domestic as well, however the numbers are much worse when compared with 2019. Quote Around 21 million movie tickets were sold in the first six months of this year, according to the Korean Film Council (Kofic) statistics. The figure rose above 20 million for the first half of 2020 but is only 38 percent of its performance in 2019, when nearly 57 million tickets were sold between January and June. With 2024 looking like a down year for Hollywood because of the strikes I wonder if Korean audiences will turn even more to local movies and other asian imports like China and Japan have recently post-covid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1006 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 17 minutes ago, IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son said: https://koreajoongangdaily.joins.com/2023/07/17/business/industry/CJ-CGV-Lotte-Cinema-Megabox/20230717165313345.html Interesting article about the rising ticket prices in SK turning away moviegoers, CGV having to sell its own stock to raise capital, and a general absence of mid-budget/mid-tier movies (1m+ tickets sold). Sounds very similar to the situation domestic as well, however the numbers are much worse when compared with 2019. With 2024 looking like a down year for Hollywood because of the strikes I wonder if Korean audiences will turn even more to local movies and other asian imports like China and Japan have recently post-covid. To provide some context, CJ CGV got screwed over financially because they invested in a Turkish cinema operator, Mars Entertainment Group in 2016. Mars itself is doing well, but CGV signed an agreement in which they agreed to deliver a guaranteed minimum return to financial investors in terms of Korean Won. Unfortunately, due to the decrease in the value of the Turkish lira, CJ CGV had to take a lot of debt to fulfill these obligations. These issues were only exacerbated by COVID. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 https://n.news.naver.com/mnews/article/079/0003791784?sid=102&s=09 From 2019~2023, atleast 462 movies audiences numbers were manipulated. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 I have less hope on Conan here. Will be wonderful if breakout happens for Conan here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) On 7/16/2023 at 4:03 PM, IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son said: Total Presales for the upcoming days as of Monday 00:00 Elemental - 31,237 (-5.3% LW) MI7 - 92,994 Barbie (T-2) - 25,068 Detective Conan (T-3) - 49,217 Smugglers (T-9) - 40,332 Ransomed (T-16) - 12,245 Barbie + Conan combine for 74k presales which is less than half of MI7's 155k T-3 checkpoint. I don't think this will be a huge threat for Elemental and MI7's holds next week, it will still have an effect of course but not as bad as we might have feared. Total Presales for the upcoming days as of Tuesday 00:00 Elemental - 43,026 (+1.2% LW) MI7 - 103,218 (-47.7% LW) Barbie (T-1) - 38,877 Detective Conan (T-2) - 67,609 Smugglers (T-8) - 54,039 Ransomed (T-15) - 10,386 Great sign for Elemental's weekend hold, the presales will likely be close to flat going into Friday. Conan + Barbie combine for about 75% of MI7's T-2 and 54% of its T-1. That, along with MI7 itself still being around will contribute to walkups maybe being a little bit weaker than last week since there will have to be a lot of showings cut to accommodate everything, but I think MI7 will take most of the damage. Another thing to consider is that some of these presales could also be booked as far back as next week's weekdays since schools are off so it might not indicate a flat weekend, right now I would still lean on the side of a smallish drop. Edited July 17, 2023 by IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 (edited) On 7/16/2023 at 4:23 PM, IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son said: CGV starts - Monday 00:20 Elemental - 6,505 (-20% LW, -85% YD) MI7 - 17k (-81% YD) Admission starts - Monday 01:00 Elemental - 14,418 (-21% LW, -84% YD, 860 screens) MI7 - 36,691 (-82% YD, 1,934 screens) CGV starts - Tuesday 00:20 Elemental - 8,391 (-10% LW, +29% YD) MI7 - 15,000 (-12% YD) Admission starts - Tuesday 01:00 Elemental - 18,462 (-7% LW, +28% YD, 906 screens) MI7 - 33,818 (-8% YD, 1,929 screens) Edited July 17, 2023 by IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingonaName Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 4 hours ago, IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son said: With 2024 looking like a down year for Hollywood because of the strikes I wonder if Korean audiences will turn even more to local movies and other asian imports like China and Japan have recently post-covid. Mickey-17 sweep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooper Legion Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 On 7/16/2023 at 8:42 AM, Elegiental said: Earlier is bolder — put me down for another wknd increase (single digits) Shaquille O Neal Shoulder Shake GIFfrom Shaquille O Neal GIFs 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upriser7 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 1 hour ago, IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son said: CGV starts - Tuesday 00:20 Elemental - 8,391 (-10% LW, +29% YD) MI7 - 15,000 (-12% YD) Admission starts - Tuesday 01:00 Elemental - 18,462 (-7% LW, +28% YD, 906 screens) MI7 - 33,818 (-8% YD, 1,929 screens) bit surprising to see nearly 30% increase on Tuesday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 24 minutes ago, upriser7 said: bit surprising to see nearly 30% increase on Tuesday Tuesday's are normally quite a bit stronger than Monday for presales, idk why, though the walkups can be weaker. 28% is very good though, in my opinion last Tuesday was probably Elemental's weakest day of its entire run, it shouldn't have dropped from Monday since that was the one day where MI7 wasn't playing at all. I'd expect a small increase tomorrow in line with the other Tuesday's of its run. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Both movies released on June 14, both had wildly different box office trajectories 🤣 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...