Sam Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Less than IM3/Avengers = underperforming ...to some people. But this movie doesn't need 800 m OS to be considered a success. In fact, half that amount should be considered a success for MOS. Exactly, I always thought that 400M is always the goal. Or a little better is TASM OS number. But I still see 500M as a strong possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 It's not under-performing. MOS is a reboot, people shouldn't expect too much. In most countries, it looks to be on par with other reboots or franchise starters. underpeforming for a big action blockbuster in those countries. Mainly South Korea, to be fair it is not really a Europe type film Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 China OD est. 6.2M 28-30M OW possible. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalel009Shel Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Kal while I like your eternal optimism I think you need to start exercising abit of pragmatism, like Sam said 22mill in SK sounds very reasonable and I don't want to bring your hopes crashing down but 1 billion is out of the question (always has been), you have to remember that this is a reboot and while I have to say that MOS so far has exceeded all my expectations and then some we can't get TOO MUCH ahead of ourselves, just remember that doubling SR's OS take would be a HUGE victory for the franchise. Reboots (even the universally acclaimed ones) usually start off abit slow out of the gate, yet this reboot (despite it's mixed reception) has gone off ground running (or leaping or flying or what ever term you'd wanna use). Well my normal prediction is 870M, but messi you dont know that until we see if Supes excels in some of the big territorries. I wont rule out a billion. As it was the same with franchise reboots like Transformers, Amazing wont do any great numbers without Tobey etc. Well I look to be wrong with SK my friend, lets see if I'm more accurate with my Mexico, Russia, UK, Austraila Numbers. I do agree with you Messi that reboots tend to build and go for the moon with sequels, but Superman done well has the potential to defy that typical route I think. I will never think 1 billion is out of the question until I see just how much boxoffice bounty is raked in OS. IronMan 3 came off a not so liked Part 2, but as you can see it defied the odds bigtime. Thanks to being a great film, and some help from the Avengers . Lets see what Superman can do elsewhere in the world before we say a billion isn't possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Good news is that Jet Li's new movie sucks and looks to underperform or flop. 60-65M finish for MOS in China is about right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalel009Shel Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 China OD est. 6.2M 28-30M OW possible. Hell yeah... How does that rank with the big OWs in china Olive? I hope it hits 30M! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#ED Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 China OD est. 6.2M 28-30M OW possible. 30M OW compared to... you know I'll keep posting this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 underpeforming for a big action blockbuster in those countries. Mainly South Korea, to be fair it is not really a Europe type film What do you expect it to do in SK? It looks to finish around IM1 total over there (25M), which is pretty good. Nothing amazing but still good. Better number than Thor too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalel009Shel Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Good news is that Jet Li's new movie sucks and looks to underperform or flop. 60-65M finish for MOS in China is about right. Nice if we can a few more territorries with 50-70 Mil we will break the SM reboot and get to that 900M-1Billion+ mark.. Woooohoo.. Olive are you open to billion dollar talks ww for MOS or not yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Nice if we can a few more territorries with 50-70 Mil we will break the SM reboot and get to that 900M-1Billion+ mark.. Woooohoo.. Olive are you open to billion dollar talks ww for MOS or not yet? Stick to 800M WW for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalel009Shel Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 What do you expect it to do in SK? It looks to finish around IM1 total over there (25M), which is pretty good. Nothing amazing but still good. Better number than Thor too. Amazing as SR was hated in SK, so thats a serious come back in my eyes Sam, though not the big numbers I wanted in SK... I can live with 25-30M in SK though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Good news is that Jet Li's new movie sucks and looks to underperform or flop. 60-65M finish for MOS in China is about right. Does that lock 500 m OS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 30M OW compared to... you know I'll keep posting this... 4 days OW on par with TDKR/TASM 6-day if I remember right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Does that lock 500 m OS? Not so sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalel009Shel Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Stick to 800M WW for now. We can do more, but that is a good predict none the less. I have 870M WW, but highend would love to break IM3 or make the 900M to 1Bil mark. Which would still be a greater feat than IM's BO. (IM needed 2 sequels and especially Avengers to get to those numbers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 I don't think 500M OS is a lock at all. Have to wait and see Russia, Aus,.. openings and the holds in last week's markets first. I think we can lock something after this weekend, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Some people were expecting this to break out big overseas. I guess some expectations were too high. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#ED Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Some people were expecting this to break out big overseas. I guess some expectations were too high. What should have been expected, is 3x SR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Some people were expecting this to break out big overseas. I guess some expectations were too high. Depends on your definition of break out really. 400M-500M for MOS is already a break out. If someone expect 600M+ or so OS, even after last week OS opening weekend, then best of luck. MOS is already breaking out Dom, so WW total will be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#ED Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 so MoS could end up at 60M in China? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...