pieman Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I don't know. I didn't think either were particularly exceptional. Both were rather forgettable and shallow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 So members of Box office theory vote TDKR. The rest of the planet vote The Avengers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChD Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) So members of Box office theory vote TDKR. The rest of the planet vote The Avengers I guess that means that members of Box Office Theory know what a good actually movie looks like^^. Edited November 5, 2012 by ChD 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I guess that means that members of Box Office Theory know what a good actually movie looks like^^.Or not 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I'm doing all I can Don to keep from laughing at the perfect 10 score you gave the villain in TDKR when 95% of the movie, you could barely make out a word he said.. In short, he came off like a drunken Sean Connery.. don't dis Bane! He was AWESOME! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackO Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) Acting TDKR - 7.5/10 - knocked down a half a point because of Cottliard death scene Avengers - 6/10 - up a point because of Loki Action Avengers - 8/10 - New York City fight TDKR - 6.5/10 - Batman and Bane fights Ambition Avengers - 10/10 - Culmination of solo movies, never been attempted TDKR - 10/10 - Raised the stakes to one of the greatest comic book movies ever made Cinematography Avengers - 4.5/10 - Other then team up pose nothing else of note TDKR - 9/10 - Too many iconic scenes to list Dialogue Avengers - 5/10 - Meh, again other then Loi's interactions with the Avengers nothing more of note TDKR - 9/10 -Catwoman, Bane, Batman. Pwnage. Emotion Avengers - 3/10 - Never really got invested in Iron Man's supposed arc TDKR - 10/10 - Too easy. Humor Avengers - 7.5/10 - Avengers wins easily here TDKR - 3/10 - Not really a lot there Score Avengers - 3/10 - There was a score? TDKR - 10/10 - Up there with TDK as one of best scores of all time Script Avengers - 5/10 - Interesting dynamic getting heros together but no emotional payoff TDKR - 9/10 - Clunkier then TDKR but packs the emotional punch Villians Avengers - 8/10 - I liked Loki but never really felt he was a genuine threat to Avengers TDKR - 10/10 - Bane was smart and strong. A lethal combination. And oh yeah he had help too. Total TDKR - 84/100 Avengers - 60/100 TDKR in a blowout. Edited November 6, 2012 by JackO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Disney Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I don't break down the individual elements the way a lot of the posters in this thread are doing. It's just not the way I watch or rank movies.I found the acting in TA better because no one seems more perfectly suited for their character than RDJ as Iron Man. I also loved the way Scar Jo performed as The black Widow. Samuel L. Jackson once again did a great job. I didn't feel that TDKR had any performers who stood out as their characters the way Ledger did as The Joker in TDK.As for the score, I liked the TA score better. Silvestri is very under-rated. I am waiting for him to finally get his due. The Captain America theme music is great and it's the best theme music out of both movies. As much as I don't like Batman '89, I felt that the score was more memorable than BB-TDK-TDKR.As for the writing, they're even to me. While TA had perfectly written witty lines and dialogue, TDKR had well written dialogue as well. Especially the way Alfred interacted with Bruce Wayne.Emotionally, I was invested equally in both movies.I liked the cinematography better in TA. I felt that there were more memorable shots and more epic shots.That's pretty much as far in depth of a breakdown as I can do for a movie. Going into any firther analysis seems pointless to me. Obviously, I loved TA. It was the best superhero movie that I have personally seen. TDKR is a great movie on its own. However, when compared to other great movies, it doesn't do as well. In conclusion, my vote goes to TA. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlazer Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 So members of Box office theory vote TDKR. The rest of the planet vote The Avengers By its box office take? it goes back and forth depending on different sites etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) By its box office take? it goes back and forth depending on different sites etc.The multiplier, Cinema score, reactions, critics, just to name a few. Edited November 6, 2012 by Jessie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlazer Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 The multiplier was pretty damn good for such a big opener.Yes it was just crawled to x3, does not mean it was more liked by the rest of the planet. It was something new that intrigued the general public, i for one never expected it to do what it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Yes it was just crawled to x3, does not mean it was more liked by the rest of the planet. It was something new that intrigued the general public, i for one never expected it to do what it did.Well the rest of the planet seemed more interested in this than TDKR, oh and I had edited my previous post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlazer Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Well the rest of the planet seemed more interested in this than TDKR, oh and I had edited my previous post. Exactly my point, hard to take for a Batman fan, but i loved Tdkr so i have no quarrels with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) Exactly my point, hard to take for a Batman fan, but i loved Tdkr so i have no quarrels with that.Loving your display pic btw'A man's wife is a man's life Mr UPS man' Edited November 6, 2012 by Jessie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letsuseournoggin Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Acting TA-7/10 they were good for their roles but no outstanding performances. TDKR-9/10 dropped a point because i agree Marion Contillard was a weak link. Action TA-9/10 Good fun action all round. nothing that hasnt been seen before as it was all CGI. TDKR-9/10 less cgi more stunt etc. Loved it. Bane/Batman fight one of the best and intense fight scenes ever. Would have liked to see more of catwoman though. Ambition TA-9/10 Did something never done before and succeeded. TDKR-9/10 Instead of trying to top TDK it took another route and made the threat bigger. Cinematography TA-7/10 Nothing spectacular except for the circle shot. But that was predictable and has been done before. TDKR-10/10 One of the best cinematographers working today did it. Dialogue TA-8/10 Good witty dialogue with enough humour to lighten the atmosphere. TDKR 9/10 Bane had some of the most memorable lines in recent memory. 'ahh you think darkness is your ally...' etc. Emotion TA-6/10 Good movie but i did not feel very invested in the movie to care for the characters much. Just didnt seem like they were facing such a big threat. The atmosphere being too lighthearted may have hindered it. TDKR-9/10 Threat seemed real and you felt for the characters. Micheal Caine really brings you to the brink with his crying at the end. And the last glimse of batman flying with the bomb. many emotional scenes. Humour TA-9/10 You cant get better than the hulk and loki scene TDKR-6/10 Wasnt meant to be very funny. Though catwoman did come out with some light hearted witty remarks as per the character. Score TA-7/10 Score was good but underwhelming and the main theme is nothing wow or memorable. TDKR-9/10 im a big fan of the score for this trilogy. Like the new themes used for bane and catwoman etc. Gothams reckoning is really scary and really brings out the audiences fear of bane. Script TA-8/10 Good script but too light hearted. TDKR-9/10 Hint of humour in a dark movie. pulled of brilliantly while keeping the threat intact. Villains TA-6/10 Sorry as much as i like loki, him or the chitauri were not very convincingly evil or terrifying. But i understand more screen time was given to the heroes to show them gelling hence the villains took a back seat in this one. Hope fully Thanos changes that in the next one. TDKR-10/10 One of the best villains ever.Period. TA Total= 76 TDKR Total- 89 This is pretty much exactly how I feel with one exception. The villains. I would bring it down to an 8 because Bane went from being the ultimate badass and then downgraded to a side note. Other than that, in my opinion, your assessment was spot on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letsuseournoggin Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 So members of Box office theory vote TDKR. The rest of the planet vote The Avengers imdb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goffe Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 (edited) Or not or yesRT:TDKR: 8.0 (7.9 from top critic)TA: 8.0 (7.8 from top critic)IMDBTDKR: 8.8 (49,2% of the votes are 10)TA: 8.4 (38,2 of the votes are 10)MetacriticTDKR: 78TA: 69Metacritic UsersTDKR: 86TA: 81Boxoffice Forum (here)TDKR: 70,645 of the votes are 10TA: 62,79% of the votes are 10stop talking shit please? Edited November 7, 2012 by Goffe Bond 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goffe Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 (edited) The multiplier, Cinema score, reactions, critics, just to name a few. You don't know how the box office works, do you? First: the multiplier of TDKR isn't too far behind TA multiplier: 3,00 TDKR multiplier: 2,79 Second: Let me ask you a question: Which movie will have the best multiplier: A lighthearted fun and unexpected to surprise or a dark and serious movie, most anticipated movie of the past few years, the sequel to the best reviewed superhero movie and finally, the tragedy that happened in the OW. Cinemascore, TDKR has a A and TA has A+ big difference! The sequel factor could led TDKR to a possible "disappointment" and yet the difference is minimal from the critics and average people, just look my post above Edited November 7, 2012 by Goffe Bond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 or yes RT: TDKR: 8.0 (7.9 from top critic) TA: 8.0 (7.8 from top critic) IMDB TDKR: 8.8 (49,2% of the votes are 10) TA: 8.4 (38,2 of the votes are 10) Metacritic TDKR: 78 TA: 69 Metacritic Users TDKR: 86 TA: 81 Boxoffice Forum (here) TDKR: 70,645 of the votes are 10 TA: 62,79% of the votes are 10 stop talking shit please? Cinemascore TDKR - A The Avengers - A+ Multiplier TDKR - 2.78 The Avengers - 3 RT score TDKR - 92% The Avengers - 87% Domestic gross TDKR - $447,509,207 The Avengers - $623,357,910 Overseas TDKR - $630,800,000 The Avengers - $888,400,000 Worldwide TDKR - $1.078,349,207 The Avengers - $1,511,757,910 The numbers speak for themselves , nice try though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlazer Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Cinemascore TDKR - A The Avengers - A+ Multiplier TDKR - 2.78 The Avengers - 3 RT score TDKR - 92% The Avengers - 87% Domestic gross TDKR - $447,509,207 The Avengers - $623,357,910 Overseas TDKR - $630,800,000 The Avengers - $888,400,000 Worldwide TDKR - $1.078,349,207 The Avengers - $1,511,757,910 The numbers speak for themselves , nice try though... Wrong way round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goffe Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 (edited) Cinemascore TDKR - A The Avengers - A+ Multiplier TDKR - 2.78 The Avengers - 3 RT score TDKR - 92% The Avengers - 87% Domestic gross TDKR - $447,509,207 The Avengers - $623,357,910 Overseas TDKR - $630,800,000 The Avengers - $888,400,000 Worldwide TDKR - $1.078,349,207 The Avengers - $1,511,757,910 The numbers speak for themselves , nice try though... Ok, TA was a fresh new thing, lighthearted fun, never tried before that only grossed 500 million more because of the 3D. TDKR in other hand.... I gave the average score and you gave me the approval percentage, let's puts this way: The critics liked TA more, in a average way. And the critics who liked TDKR, liked more. Edited November 7, 2012 by Goffe Bond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...