kayumanggi Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 You guys happy for $40m ?That would be the most terrible thing in Chinese theatrical history, the bomb of bombs. Why? Aren't you happy? Were you expecting 400 M? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POLYLOVE Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Hollywood movies will always flop in China. If we get used to this, maybe we won't be disappointed by any failures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POLYLOVE Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 It's time to lower the expectations of Hollywood movies, just like in Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juni78ukr Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Why everyone is so disappointed all of a sudden? You cant expect every big Hollywood movie to gross 50+ or even 100+ in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 (edited) Why everyone is so disappointed all of a sudden? You cant expect every big Hollywood movie to gross 50+ or even 100+ in China. Sure. But with one Hollywood movie disappoints in China after another ... it tells something. Edited February 23, 2013 by firedeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 Of course I am not happy with this. Thought Hobbit would at least do Skyfall numbers, at the very least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seng Wah Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Still I am happy like others if it can make $40mil with that horrible release date. I do lower down my expectations too from initial $60+mil after what I have seen the performance of Hollywood's film in China for the past few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 Point is, in the past two months alone, there have been THREE $150M+ level local films while the latest $100m+ Hollywood movie was still one year ago in last April. And on contrast, now we see several Hollywood movies underperform in a row. Local films account for nearly 80% during the past 50 days of 2013, the best time ever for local films. I think it is time to draw conclusion that Hollywood movies are becoming less appealing to the Chinese. They are more willing to see local films than ever. It is the trend, obviously, and happening. If foreign studios are wise, they should now pay more attention to invest in Chinese films for the China market instead of just seling these foreign produced movies to the Chinese if they want to continue doing business in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 It'll do $50m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Sure. But with one Hollywood movie disappoints in China after another ... it tells something. See that statement right there makes your other statements about Hobbit being the biggest Bomb, utterly meaningless. I expected the Hobbit to open stronger and perform lower based on admissions in most of the world, I expected a few places of growth, including China, based on their overall industry growth. Its based off of very known factors, one of the most read books around, and is considered vastly inferior to Lord of the Rings. It features only minor characters from the other film, and one major (though really he isn't that big of a character in either books, and that's Gandalf). Thus I really, really didn't expect it to behave like many a sequel, where the story is literally an unknown and often features many of the same actors in major roles. The Hobbit dud great in parts of the World, but it was easy to see that it wasn't doing it well in others. Add to that, we have seen a lot of US films doing not that well in China in the last year. You factor those two factors in, and you need to lower your expectations for films in your country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 The good performance of Cloud Atlas has a lot to do with the fact that a Chinese film company invested in that film, which makes its marketing much more comfortable and effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted February 23, 2013 Author Share Posted February 23, 2013 See that statement right there makes your other statements about Hobbit being the biggest Bomb, utterly meaningless. I expected the Hobbit to open stronger and perform lower based on admissions in most of the world, I expected a few places of growth, including China, based on their overall industry growth. Its based off of very known factors, one of the most read books around, and is considered vastly inferior to Lord of the Rings. It features only minor characters from the other film, and one major (though really he isn't that big of a character in either books, and that's Gandalf). Thus I really, really didn't expect it to behave like many a sequel, where the story is literally an unknown and often features many of the same actors in major roles. The Hobbit dud great in parts of the World, but it was easy to see that it wasn't doing it well in others. Add to that, we have seen a lot of US films doing not that well in China in the last year. You factor those two factors in, and you need to lower your expectations for films in your country. Sure. Though what number from China can be considered good in this special case ? It is hard to say. But 60M should be the benchmark I think. And now it looks disappointed for sure. If Hobbit is a direct sequel/follow-up to ROTK, it would fly passing $100m in China, maybe even 150M. $40M~50M for Hobbit really is an ugly number whatever reasons you bring up. Since as I explained, it wont touch yearly top 20, enough to determine its so disappointed. For instance, even disappointed TASM easily entered the yearly top 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juni78ukr Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 It's stil around $19m 3day opening. The 3rd best after Germany and UK. Nothing's wrong about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 so will it make enough to reach 700m overseas and a billion worldwide? That is all that really matters 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share Posted February 24, 2013 It's stil around $19m 3day opening. The 3rd best after Germany and UK. Nothing's wrong about it. Except legs in china are much worse than those two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share Posted February 24, 2013 so will it make enough to reach 700m overseas and a billion worldwide? That is all that really mattersyes for both. But that's not what I am caring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share Posted February 24, 2013 Saturday numbers out:Jttw 52mHobbit 44mCume Jttw 944m hobbit 79mThat just went from terrible to disaster for hobbit. Not a disappointment but a BOMB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druv10 Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 lol, firedeep. Calm down, you're going over the top. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjk Posted February 24, 2013 Share Posted February 24, 2013 Jttw beats Saturday numbers out: Jttw 52m Hobbit 44m Cume Jttw 944m hobbit 79m That just went from terrible to disaster for hobbit. Not a disappointment but a BOMB. it seems hobbit just about ¥120m OW ! a poor guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted February 24, 2013 Author Share Posted February 24, 2013 yeah, hobbit opens less than John carter inflation considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...