Robertron Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 It's not a true $1B gross. All these years later with 3D doesn't qualify (in my eyes) as a $1B film.Films like Avatar, Alice, Titanic, Batman - all of these are true $1B films as they made the Bil in their original runs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 It's not a true $1B gross. All these years later with 3D doesn't qualify (in my eyes) as a $1B film.Films like Avatar, Alice, Titanic, Batman - all of these are true $1B films as they made the Bil in their original runs. In my opinion Phantom Menace or Jurassic Park are more deserving of 1 billion than Alice, TF3, Hobbit or POTC4. The two first already did over 900 million 20 and 14 years ago, without today prices or 3D. Everything is relative. Today, those movies would have done over 1.5 billion. And if movies get people go to see it 20 years later, that is a merit of the movie. The movie has demand. For me, it is valid. In that way, Star Wars real number in US would be barely 300, not 460 million, because of re-releases 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilusha Bandara Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 In my opinion Phantom Menace or Jurassic Park are more deserving of 1 billion than Alice, TF3, Hobbit or POTC4. The two first already did over 900 million 20 and 14 years ago, without today prices or 3D. Everything is relative. Today, those movies would have done over 1.5 billion. And if movies get people go to see it 20 years later, that is a merit of the movie. The movie has demand. For me, it is valid. In that way, Star Wars real number in US would be barely 300, not 460 million, because of re-releases Only JP, not TPM! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertron Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 In my opinion Phantom Menace or Jurassic Park are more deserving of 1 billion than Alice, TF3, Hobbit or POTC4. The two first already did over 900 million 20 and 14 years ago, without today prices or 3D. Everything is relative. Today, those movies would have done over 1.5 billion. And if movies get people go to see it 20 years later, that is a merit of the movie. The movie has demand. For me, it is valid. In that way, Star Wars real number in US would be barely 300, not 460 million, because of re-releases So if we re-released every film that made over, lets say $800m, and people went and they crossed $1B they'd all be as deserving? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I dont see any problem with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted August 21, 2013 Author Share Posted August 21, 2013 JP4 has a HUGE potential. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 JP4 could make $150M in China. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omario Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 One of the greatest movies of all time...of ALL TIME! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robertron Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I dont see any problem with that.It just makes reaching $1B seem like nothing then. It doesn't stay as the milestone to reach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDC1987 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 It's not a true $1B gross. All these years later with 3D doesn't qualify (in my eyes) as a $1B film.Films like Avatar, Alice, Titanic, Batman - all of these are true $1B films as they made the Bil in their original runs. ..aaaaaaand they made $1,000,000,000 because of higher ticket prices and in some cases 3D. Seriously, did you have a lobotomy before posting that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Only JP, not TPM! The numbers are quite easy: Phantom Menace did 920 million in 1999, with 431 in US. Adjusting for inflation in USA, 692 million (I do not consider 3D re-release). Just adjusting in USA, the WW number would be 1.180 billion. Considering that OS number was a bit higher than DOM and the same inflation than USA, the WW number would be today over 1.4 billion (and without 3D or expanding markets). Jurassic Park adjusts to 703 million in USA without re-release, nearly the same number than TPM. Both movies are very close and both deserve MUCH more than many others to be considered global breakouts. To reach a billion is an inflation matter, but it is a fact that Jurassic Park and Phantom Menace were quite bigger than today 1-1.1 billion movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) So if we re-released every film that made over, lets say $800m, and people went and they crossed $1B they'd all be as deserving? The demand is what rules. Maybe in 30 years many children who were not born in 1994 would like to see again Lion King at theaters and if it get re-released it can manage another 200 million WW like it did last year. Star Wars managed another 138 million in 1997 (245 adjusted) and nobody denies that its total gross is 460 million. Another movies are not able to mobilize so many people. A movie gross can never be closed with the initial run. Maybe we are not used to re-releases, but I see them as valid as an initial release. And just a question: what do you think is better, 975 million of Harry Potter in 2001 or 1.024 of Alice in Wonderland in 2010? Alice had the best exchange rates ever and Harry Potter the worst. Everything is relative. WW numbers are a bit tricky. You say movies over 800: Independence Day, Fellowship of the Ring, Spider-man and Harry Potter 2 were bigger than every movie WW, excepting top 4 (Avatar, Titanic, Avengers and DH2). And I have doubts with DH2... Edited August 22, 2013 by peludo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moviedweeb Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 So if we re-released every film that made over, lets say $800m, and people went and they crossed $1B they'd all be as deserving?There are few movies in that range that could make $200m WW with a rerelease and those that can deserve it, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druv10 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) With 2 days in China, it's up to 993M WW. Universal's first billion dollar film and a great milestone for an amazing movie. Edited August 22, 2013 by druv10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilusha Bandara Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 JP4 could make $150M in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Violence Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Bear in mind that movies were re-released all the time in the pre-home video era. Gone with the Wind was reissued in 1947, 1954, 1961, 1967, 1971, and 1974, with some less frequent re-releases in the home video era. The Wizard of Oz was reissued in 1949, 1955, 1970, and 1971, and again had some occasional re-releases after video came along. The Sound of Music was reissued in 1973 and 1978. The Godfather was reissued in 1973, less than a year after the original release. And it was uncontroversial to count all the releases together for record purposes--that's how GWTW was able to keep the title of "highest grosser of all time" until The Sound of Music, even though some other films beat GWTW's initial release by a wide margin (Ben Hur made well over twice as much on its initial release as GWTW did on its). "Highest-grossing initial release" was an important record too, but it wasn't the end-all-be-all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druv10 Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Exhibitor Relations @ERCboxoffice2m JURASSIC PARK 3D grossed an enormous $28.8M in China over 6 days. Int'l total is $44.5M, $89.9M worldwide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Again, underreported ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 Jurassic Park 3D added $2.3m for $69.1m and has amassed $52.1m after 20 days in China where it is Universal’s second biggest release behind Fast 6 and Steven Spielberg’s biggest hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted September 15, 2013 Share Posted September 15, 2013 Jurassic Park 3D reached $53.8 million from China, where it has grossed the lion's share of its $71.1 million overseas total. It is Universal's second biggest film in the market, only trailing this summer's Fast & Furious 6.Jurassic Park 3D has grossed $116.5 million worldwide. The film will open in its last two territories, Argentina and Portugal, on October 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...