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For lordman it's an equation. Above 80 percent on RT+under 300m at the box office. If it has both those factors, it is automatically pretentious.

There's a difference between a couple of people who just dislike a very popular movie (Hell, I know people that dislike the Shawshank Redemption and Raiders of the Lost Ark, two near perfect movies for what they are IMO) and a very vocal subgroup of people who try to shape the narrative around a film as "overrated" or "pretentious" or something like that, and if you check the discourse around La La Land, that's happening. When it becomes a cohesive opposition around a theme, whether it be a movie winning too many Oscars, or being copycat, or being overhyped by critics, or being a fraud of some sort, or being something that pretentious people like to be "cool" (check all the posters saying that about Mad Max, for example), I call that a backlash, specifically when it tries to drown out previous glowing remarks. I mean, it's kind of an intangible thing that pretty much everyone on these boards have used for the eight years I've been on here. Why is this suddenly a debate?

That's not what I meant and you know it, come on.

Damn, that blows. James Brown died on Christmas day, too, and he's one of the greatest ever. Really shitty to lose another. Also, La La Land floored me. Unreal movie. I don't get the inexplicable backlash to it. Then again, I don't get the inexplicable backlash to Whiplash either, considering I haven't seen a better movie in theaters since. I'd watch Chazelle direct someone reading the phonebook after these two movies. Brilliant talent.

In Florida, kids were in school all week this week, and will be off the entire week of the 2nd to 6th. I don't know if that's regular throughout the country, but I'm sure at least a few states are gonna do it. This year's calendar might line up well for the first week of January to see better than usual post holiday drops.

Can we have a separate category for miniseries/TV movie? There's way too much good to have to squeeze in The Night Of and OJ with things like Mr. Robot and GOT and all those drama shows. There's plenty of options this year.

Anecdotal evidence, but that trailer gets insane buzz every time I've seen it. South Florida loves Denzel, though. I think it'll do fairly well throughout the holidays and do 70+ at the box office. Maybe 5 or 6 mill on Sunday.

Every dude in my family has had a phase where they bleach their hair blonde, including me. Weird times. My dad is 73, and he still has a full head of bleached blonde hair. One of my older brothers looks EXACTLY like Guy Fieri, so that's pretty much worse case scenario.

@MrPink I told you once and I'll say it again: Get on Tinder, my friend.

I'm banking on untitled PG-13 comedy to keep the season afloat. Also, that Six Billion Dollar Man movie ain't happening. But anyway, the big commercial Christmas releases are usually fairly mediocre every year. It's Oscar stuff that breaks out at the box office and delivers quality and it's been like that for years over this weekend. Just this weekend, I expect La La Land to boom, and Fences to stun people, and Hidden Figures to do great in mid-level release. Plus, you've got Patriot's Day, Silence, and other expansions to boost the box office and deliver the goods coming through over the next couple of weeks. Daddy's Home, Joy, Concussion, and Point Break wasn't a murderer's row last year, and this year will add up to better than that at the BO. Same with classic commercial and critical smashes like Parental Guidance, 47 Ronin, and Walter Mitty.

Says movie will only appeal to sci-fi junkies and then projects it to be a bonafide WW hit? Mixing your signals there, buddy.

MBTS and pretty much every film in the top ten had a crappy Saturday increase too, FWIW. Weather and shopping may have held the weekend days down. Amazing Friday for this but didn't hold that great over the weekend.

Oh yea, absolutely uncharted waters. I was saying this in the 450 club thread. Because it's a spinoff and more adult, that points to it being more frontloaded. But others in this topic have made a great argument for it being LESS frontloaded. This shit currently has a Kal/Deadline esque range. If it lands anywhere between DH 1 OW and BvS OW 125 to 166, I wouldn't be surprised. Huge range.

That's one example. One example does not equal evidence.

With a weekend IM from the preview of 4.5, only slightly less than TFA, this does 130.5 OW. That means baumer's club would be looking real good, FWIW. And honestly, I think its multiplier from preview might be even worse. I'd love for someone to explain to me how an adult-oriented spinoff for the fans will be more backloaded than the broadly appealing TFA. I just don't get it.

Quick spoiler-free thoughts: Thought it was really good. The strongest moments of this are stronger than TFA or pretty much most blockbusters of the past five years. Edwards' has a spectacular visual sense. But also this movie, especially the first half, feels chopped to shit in the editing room at times. I know that seems like a cliche complaint cuz the reshoots, but man alive can you feel some production problems on screen. Feels like it replaced 10 minutes of character development with 10 minutes of plot exposition or action, at least. Still great time.

It gets really complicated. This is much more for fans, and also much less for kids and families. But spinoffs are unpredictable and the snowstorm and holiday season add in very large variance.

30 mill previews would translate to about 65 mill opening day and 140 opening or so. 450 would be pretty close but likely with that. I think since this is more adult and more anticipated it does more like 27/55 for a 130 weekend and 420 or so total.

I think this does under 30 5 day and I have for awhile. The trailer views and social media numbers are completely mediocre, and absolutely zero people I know are talking about it. I think it does 16/24/ and finishes at 60 domestically.

Viggo's had a good week but I still think that Edgerton shows up on the day of, with Hanks just outside. Viggo's by no means a lock even with the two big precursors. I don't think Garfield is that much of a lock, either. Hell, I wouldn't be stunned if Adam Driver pulls it out of nowhere, but it's unlikely.

That's a real shame. I personally found his Texas cop better than Bridges (and I liked Bridges!)

For what it's worth, that's huge for both Fences and Hidden Figures. They needed this, and they got it. Patel looking like our third lock in SA. Hedges and Grant are absolutely favorites, but I wouldn't be stunned if we woke up to Foster/Shannon either.

Boston Film Critics and New York Online today! I saw Boston goes Manchester and NYFCO goes Moonlight. BFCA goes La La Land.

Hmm. Hugo was a PG children's adventure film that doubled as a whimsical, thoughtful look on the power of 1910s silent film production. It really didn't have an audience at all - way too intellectual and artsy for what kids want, but not exactly something that was gonna get the Departed/Goodfellas audience either. They're selling this as an intense drama/thriller appealing to a fairly regular adult audience. So not sure I agree with that.

Huh, it sounds fascinating and challenging to me, and like something that only a genius like Marty could get approved and done. Just because not every review is saying "This is going to win all the Oscars and is a perfect movie!!" doesn't mean it can't be a fascinating film. But apparently, reviewers are just bought off to like his movie.