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I wouldn't say the RT score, the statement I was making was more on the concept of originality in Hollywood these days and how hard it is to compete with all of these remakes and stuff. And yeah, if the audiences continue to devour the remake and reboot slop that's put in front of them I'll call them out for the pigs that they are. Go ahead and join them in it and enjoy the sixth remake of Alice in Wonderland in 40 years with your grand kids.

Deserving? Debatable. Beauty & the Beast is 70%, I wouldn't call that mediocre though I guess it isn't stellar. The bowing down to Disney is definitely moreso on the part of the audience members that eat it up like the sheep they are, though. Critics don't matter as much in that sense.

Imagine forgetting the countless remakes in the years before that were praised for doing relatively nothing new with plot or atmosphere besides "Woah guys look its that movie from when you were a kid but in LIVE ACTION with CGI ANIMALS"

What I was leaning more towards is I feel like a film that is essentially a remake should be looked at a bit more critically than your average film. The reason for this is because any film that is remade needs to prove why it needed to be remade. The whole "Rotten Tomatoes" era of criticism is a really weird one, though. A lot of Mulan reviews don't really seem to be doing that, and of course a wide array of geek culture will eat this one up just like they do the rest of them. As for the nostalgia dependent part, that is more on the audiences. Still, it is 100% the film industry's fault for creating it as the expectation that masses have when it comes to adaptations and remakes. Sorta at the risk of derailing this thread though, so I'll stop with the doom and gloom.

The idea of a nostalgia driven industry isn't a "theory" it's a reality. Just look at the upcoming production slates for major studios and the past few years of box office. Far from a "theory" as you call it.

Tenet being ambitious is obviously subjective, and I didn't say everyone should love it, but "Disney remake with heart" is a laughable statement from the company that is a literal embodiment of corporate greed and nostalgia pandering. And yeah, I know WB is a soulless money hungry company as well, but at least they're doing something different here and there. It wasn't really me comparing the movies to each other on quality, that is going to be subjective. I just figured so called "film critics" would be more critical on a rehash. Because I would hope overtime audiences and critics would get tired of being force fed the exact same characters and storylines, made to look "new and innovative" all because they changed mediums. Pretty much every Disney live action remake is just this. The very notion of "bowing down to Disney" and "becoming corporate zombies" is pretty much exactly what the film industry has shifted towards, so I'm gonna disagree there. It's franchise film after franchise film with little variety these days. The industry relied so much on nostalgic and pre-existing IP's that they've created an industry that basically can't thrive without "familiar" products. It basically alienates anyone whose "personal interests and tastes" don't match up with the status quo, so there's that.

The fact that Tenet has a lower score on RT than Mulan just superficially bugs me. I can't help but think it says a lot about this industry now- or at least its "critics" You have an original, well made, ambitious film that truly tries to do something new and a soulless cash crab copypasta project from a corporation who is attempting to monopolize the industry and the latter has a higher scores from whatever hole RT pulls their "critics" from. I'm not saying everyone had to love Tenet or anything, I just dislike Disney's live action copypasta #20 is somehow more revered right now.

$21M if it's the 3-day, $32M if it's the whole week worth of shows. but tbh I have no fucking clue

Saw the trailer for the trailer with Tenet... why didn't they just have the full trailer show with it instead?

I loved it. Still processing everything but the set pieces were amazing, score was great, and John David Washington and Robert Pattinson were fantastic. It's definitely Nolan's most ambitious venture, and the craft behind this is too damn good not to appreciate. The third act might be the best big budget climactic chaos I've seen. I see why a few critics and audiences are a bit disenchanted. If you went into this expecting a sleeper sequel to Inception I could definitely see those people being disappointed. The two films are extremely different and I get the idea comparing them was mostly just hype/promoting.

Looking forward to this and The Suicide Squad for sure. Love the tone of the trailer, definitely in-store for an honest to god mystery Batman film!

Did not think I would be reminded of Blackhat this year... or any year...

Ugh I can't wait to see this fucking film

Gotta say I didn't see this one coming. Scott is a really popular artist so it'll be good marketing for sure.

A quick Google search of the film is showing a good amount of audience reviews . It's showing me 30 right now, I'm not going to click for fear of spoilers to see how many seem legitimate but it looks like the special screenings actually happened. First glance says it looks like a big winner quality wise. Hell even if it isn't "top tier" Nolan it may end up getting points just for the novelty of being the first thing people have seen on the big screen since March.

If this actually happens I'm there for it. There is a drive-in 45 minutes away from me. If they play it, I'm gonna give my windshield a fresh clean and watch this Nolan epic from the comfort of my driver's seat. Apparently the theater has been doing no contact ticketing as well so I can just pay for it online and show them the receipt on my phone through the window.

I’ve always thought that it would be a good idea to go back to the old “slow rollout” release style. Hypothetically it could create interest among people that feel they are missing out which in turn drives more hype and more people in the seats. You would have to push the streaming/Blu-ray releases back from their current 3 month after standard to at least 6 months or something. These days a lot of people will just shrug and say “ah it’ll be on *streaming service* in a couple months” but if you change that up maybe they’d be less willing to wait if they are hearing good things. Though Hollywood likes that instant gratification even if it could be more fruitful in the long run so I doubt if this style is adapted it would last very long after the pandemic subsided.

I'm not sure what it is but the posters are giving me TDK vibes. I think its the dark blue/grey city background with the sparks and flames behind the lead, but I am taking it as a good thing.

Looks extremely promising so far. Can’t wait to see the actual film. As for box office, that’s definitely one hell of a budget. Even more so when you consider Washington and Pattinson are probably less expensive actors than the likes of DiCaprio/McConaughey/Bale among Nolan’s previous huge budget films. Inception adjusted is around $340M adjusted and with many less premium screens than this will likely get so that’s a good number to aim for. Depends on the films quality (which I’m sure will be great) and moreso marketing. Inception’s marketing campaign was brilliant back in the day.

Toy Story 4 is having some awesome legs! After it’s opening I didn’t expect it to pass TS3 and thought it might not even make it to $400M but I’ll be damned if it isn’t holding in there strong. It should play well through the rest of the month and will probably get the usual Disney Labor Day boost.

I was iffy on seeing Hobbs & Shaw tbh but I wouldn’t mind catching this trailer in good quality and then staring at Vanessa Kirby for a couple hours.

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SMFFH opened on discount Tuesday with no preview shows and extremely limited midnight shows. In addition to that a lot of dumbass college students that come to the bar I work at didn't think it was coming out till this weekend after the surprise when I told them I saw it today. I think it's doing well over $200M through Sunday. Fuck I wouldn't be surprised if the gross went up tomorrow. No preview gross to inflate opening day. It's been years since we've seen that.

Deadline said Infinity War's first Friday was $95M before the real analysts chimed in.