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  1. They could do it as a trilogy. First movie would be focused on Arthas as a human defending his kingdom and his fall to the Undead, end it with the Burning Legion arrival and destruction of Dalaran. Second movie would focus on the Night Elves (Tyrande/Illidan/Furion being the leads with some Jaina and Thrall that we would have seen in the first movie) and their fight against the Burning Legion (bring Arthas and the Undead with them to give more weight to the ennermy) with the alliances with the Orcs/Taurens/Humans. End with their victory at the World Tree. Final film would be the story of The Frozen Throne expansion, Arthas ascension to the Lich King, Sylvanas rebelling against his influence and Illidan/Kael'Thas vs Maiev to finish in the Illidan vs Arthas fight at the Frozen Throne. So many great characters and stories (though not widly original but all is in the execution). But before the first movie had to be a success (and probably the second since there will be a Warcraft 2 movie) and I think it will be. Just because I want it since I love the Warcraft universe (and want sequels) and that could be a starter of great video games movies (really interested in Uncharted/Mass Effect, eventually Starcraft or Diablo if Blizzard wants to continue). Excited to see the probable trailer from Comic-con (hope they'll release online too, that seems to be a trend this year). Though it probably won't do 1B$ WW, I can see it push to 700M, maybe 800M, not more. Around 200M DOM and 500-600M OS should be possible. Universal will bet big on this since it will be one of their biggest movie of the year, they gave it the prime JW spot (though Warcraft is no Jurrasic movie). And they will want to go big on this one to even approach a little their incredible 2015 results
  2. There is probably some recount going on at Universal to be sure they beat the second week-end record
  3. And sadly, I didn't really followed it, I was absorbed by Orange is the new black AND the Steam sales games I bought. I saw JW Thursday night though. Add GoT finale yesterday night (today for me) and E3. This week-end and week is quite huge on the entertainment side.
  4. Not many sci-fi blockbuster are as big in their first outing though. I guess the original Star Wars is a good example, it dropped from 460M$ to 290M$ so 40% lost, that's big. But that was so many time ago, the cinema has nothing to do between then and now. Anyway, -40% on Avatar would put it at 456M$. I see it around 450M$ for now so that corresponds to that.
  5. Well for one time, this is not based on American hours. Bond is English first so I guess that's fitting to do it in the day there. Plus, maybe Sony wants it to be at a decent hour in Japan too (kidding I don't know when it would make it and Japan isn't the main market of Bond). 12pm EST is too late for the evening news, they need a little time to prepare a thing, they won't put something having happened 1 hour before.
  6. Disney is the only one to have put a big movie IIRC. And it's the first spin-off of Star Wars, not Episode VIII. Doesn't change the problem though and probably someone will move if Avatar makes the date. I remember having heard a fall shooting debut but it doesn't seem to be the case. Also, I don't know how it works on the contracts thing but Zoe Saldana is in a lot of high profile projects now and should start to shoot Star Trek 3 soon (if it's really released in 2016). I guess there's time before GOTG 2 shooting though. For a December 2016 release and considering he'll shoot 3 movies back-to-back, Cameron needs time for the shooting and mostly the post-production.
  7. 1) Avengers Age of Ultron 1.8B (550M DOm + 1.25B OS) 2) Star Wars The Force Awakens 1.5B (600M DOM + 900M OS) 3) Minions 1B (350M DOM + 650M OS) 4) Bond 24 990M (250M DOM + 740M OS) 5) Furious 7 960M (270M DOM + 690M OS) 6) Mockingjay Part 2 900M (450M DOM + 450M OS) 7) Jurassic World 780M (230M DOM + 550M OS) 8) The Good Dinosaur 735M (255M DOM + 480M OS) 9) Kung-Fu Panda 3 700M (150M DOM + 550M OS) 10) Ant-Man 660M (270M DOM + 390M OS) 11) Pan 655M (225M DOM + 430M OS) - This has the potential to do more than we could think IMO, it will probably tend to the epic like Maleficent, it has a star power with Jackman and mostly, it'll be WB's biggest summer film (or even of the year) so they'll go big on it. And WB aren't bad at marketing in general. 12) Tomorrowland 630M (195M DOM + 435M OS) 12) Mission Impossible 630M (180M DOM + 450M OS)
  8. As to the question of the thread, I don't think AoU is locked to win in all fronts. It has the most chances but DOM, Star Wars is a true competitor with 3D, inflation, the "return of the franchise and of the OT characters" effect. AoU could decrease a little from the first too (as often with sequels to massive successes). OS and WW, Star Wars isn't as big so Avengers has probably more chances to win there but Star Wars is kind of untested with the new internationnal markets and it can be huge there too.
  9. It will probably have the logo at the beginning. The Marvel logo for the movies from other studios (it's not a Marvel Studios after all). In the promos I doubt it, the movie opens in 4 weeks and we already have a lot of trailers and spots. If they didn't feature the Marvel logo, I doubt it will have it ever. But that's fine, let's not confuse people as why a Marvel movie from Disney isn't in the MCU, it is already enough complicated with Fox and Sony and their heroes (I already heard people wishing for some Batman/Iron Man crossover so a lot of people aren't aware of the studio situation). And the movie seems to sell itself, no need of Marvel. The Incredibles/Nemo comparison might be a really good one and I hope it turns out to be like that. This movie looks really good.
  10. This should stay to summer IMO. In November and December, there will be the first Star Wars spin-off and Avatar 2 probably (one of them will go to November, they won't be both in the same month). Too much SF of similar style (mostly Star Wars). In the summer, they are kind of alone on this segment, the blockbusters are mainly superhero stuff.
  11. October is already a good month IMO. That's kind of the pre-holiday season of November-December which have bigger movies due to holidays/Thanksgiving and just tradition I guess. October doesn't limit the BO as Gravity has proven. February isn't a dumping month anymore. Lego this year, Jupiter Ascending next year, the Valentine's Day week-end, they put big films there. March and April are now a pre-summer and it will become more and more the case in the coming years. After Cap 2 this year in April and THG in March 2012, we have Fast 7 in April 2015 and mainly Batman vs Superman in March 2016. WB put their biggest film of the year (and probably the biggest of 2016 from all studios except if Avatar 2 can do a 2016 release) in March so if that's not a big month, I don't know what it is. September and January stay kind of empty. It's the retunr to work/school months so it's not that good to go to movies I guess. Also, they are the limits between the Spring/Summer period (February to August now) and the Fall/Winter (October to December). It will probably be invaded by studios in a few years as were March, April and October.
  12. Tons of games have a plot and can be interesting to see as a film. Warcraft, Assassin's Creed, Mass Effect, The Last of Us or Uncharted are very interesting projects. This is awful... Space Invaders can have something in relation to the game easily enough I think (I'm still a lot doubtful on the project but...). This and Battleship had nothing to do with the game (this even less I suppose, a epic sci-fi movie from Tetris seriously Hollywood). Even Angry Birds seems a better fit for a movie. Go full ridiculous or go home !! Though numbers are for sequels normally and this won't have sequels.
  13. They have enough cash in theory I suppose but there isn't really a price. Fox can ask what they want or even totally refuse. Also, I'm not sure Marvel actually wants to spend money for the X-Men and FF as they don't really need them, they're doing incredibly fine without them and the movies are planified for a long time. Although, the FF would be pretty easy to incorporate in the universe and would be great with the cosmic side. Plus, the X-Men would be weird in the MCU, why the mutants would be doing "war" with humans whereas the Avengers and all are celebrated by everyone ? Fox will likely have this problem if they want to mix FF and X-Men
  14. This comic-con was really disappointing in annoucements from DC and Marvel for sure but I didn't expect something from Lucasfilm on Episode VII. I don't think they will do that with conventions and all, just a press release could do it and that seems to be the trend that takes all studios for their announcements (I doubt Marvel will wait a year for SDCC 2015 to announce its Phase 3 slate, DC will maybe wit for its slate but not sure...). However, if they want, they could give the title in SDCC 2015 (July 2015), Star Wars Celebration (April 2015) or even D23 (August 2015), that still large considering the release date. I would say Celebration 2015 or a press release.
  15. I think shooting is scheduled to start this fall for one year (3 movies back to back). And it has never been so planned. We haven't heard of actual shooting, they have booked the actors for this time and all (btw Paramount should want to shoot Star Trek 3 in this time, that will bother them)
  16. They have played nicely. With announcing Incredibles 2, everyne is happy about that and focused on it. Cars 3 ? Nobody cares
  17. Isn't it the message of 75% of the animated movies by the way ?
  18. The Incredibles 2 is trending on Twitter, don't know if it has been said. This announcement has been waited for years.
  19. The Incredibles 2, awesome ! Pixar has finally decided to do the only sequel that people actually ask from them. I hope Brad Bird will return. For the date, IIRC there is nothing planned after Dory in June 2016 (which is on the same day than Dragons 3 so could move but I think Dragons will move first), right ? So they can put it in their 6/16/2017 slot I suppose, perfect to put the big sequel in summer. The Dias De Los Muertos movie can be in November 2017 more fitting considering where is the holiday. Or they can put it in 2018 and put Cars 3 before (Cars 3, Incredibles 2 and Los Muertos are their only confirmed movies right ?) but I think that won't go well with people who complain against sequel (Cars being the worst).
  20. Cars 3 don't care !! The Incredibles 2, is that true ? EDIT : Apparently, Bird isn't sure yet. I suppose he'll come back after Tomorrowland. I see The Incredibles 2 in June 2017 or maybe November 2017. Would be 2 or 2.5 years after Tomorrowland, it's doable I think, especially because Tomorrowland will be ready earlier (it was delayed from December 2014 but I think it's more for scheduling reasons than delay in the production).
  21. Hopefully this is a sign that they will release The Incredibles 2 one day. Come on, it's the only movie from Pixar where the majority of people actually wants a sequel
  22. They're unsure for DOM but I think the top 5 WW has really a lot of chances to look like that. Fast 7 can maybe enter it with passing 800M$ and if Minions suffers a lot of the spin-off effect. MI5 will do less (or roughly the same) than the previous one IMO and Ghost Protocol is below 700M$. The release date so close of SW doesn't help it for a subtancial increase IMO and it would need it for a top 5 position. Breakouts ? We can't predict them, that's the thing . But will have to be a really big breakout to enter the Top 5 WW
  23. DOM, the two movies from Disney will be in first positions but which first ? and which second ? I don't know for now. Avengers 2 is the safest choice but if SW7 is great, it can go really high. We speak of the sequel trilogy to the OT, after everyone thought SW over and without Lucas for the first time. The MCU is fine but this is not a saga with the status that has Star Wars. Also, the December opening is just perfect for a movie like SW if it's not a bad movie (and I don't think it will be a bad movie, even if it doesn't go to the level of the best SW, it can still be pretty good). Avengers 2 is also likely to drop as often with the sequels to huge success but this has quite some hype so not sure. Plus, Catching Fire hasn't dropped finally. I think both of them will be pretty close. After the two juggernauts (likely to be both above 500M$), we have MJ2 as third (around 430M$). After, it's a lot more difficult to see : Minions, Bond 24 will be big but enough to be 4th and 5th ? Not sure, Inside Out, The Good Dinosaur, ... can go high too. These places will be around 350M$ surely. OS, that's the same problem. Avengers 2 will be huge and will certainly increase, maybe passing the billion OS. Star Wars seems smaller on this but in fact, the last movie has been released in 2005. Since then, OS markets have really changed and we can't really predict how SW will be received in the new movie market. For the rest, Bond should pass or be close to the billion, same for MJ2 and Minions. What I see WW (for now and considering not a big breakout of SW OS) : Avengers 2 - 1.8-2B$ Star Wars 7 - 1.5B$ Bond 24 - 1-1.1B$ Mockingjay 2 - 950-1.05B$ Minions - 850-900M$
  24. As Sheldon says "Heroes gradually lowered the quality season by season til we were grateful it ended" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc5wwl1kjP4
  25. Actually it's not really that desperate. NBC has some success now : The Blacklist, The Voice for example. They have good ratings. ABC and FOX are in a position way more difficult than NBC this year. Obviously, CBS is always at the top. Btw, in 2015, NBC has the Superbowl, will the pilot be aired in post-Superbowl ?
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