miketheavenger

Thanks for clearing that up. I'm still wondering whether you think Doctor Strange will be released in China since it's also about "magic".

It certainly hurt it, but the damage had already been done at that point. It probably would've earned $10-15m more without Jungle Book. Wouldn't have changed the general perception of its run IMO.

Lack of competition didn't help BvS, but I agree.

IMO 6m+ for SS and 5m+ for SP would be very solid.

Then again, if anybody would've told you at the beginning of the year that Deadpool was going to be the sixth-biggest film of the year domestically, you would've called them totally crazy. Following box office has been awesome this year so far despite the painful realization that mid-level movies seem to die out. But the shocking runs from movies like Deadpool and Pets were awesome to follow.

I know we've moved on already, but I just wanted to thank baumer and the other mods and admins for this announcement that was unfortunately really necessary. Hopefully that will clear the threads up. Box Office-wise, it would be shocking if Pets would actually become Illumination's biggest film, but its chances certainly have increased with this weekend's great hold.

IMO ID4's $306.2 million is the goal for SS to become Will Smith's biggest movie domestically. WW it won't come close, though.

Trying to get this thread back on the right track, I apologize for my mistake earlier. Of course it's SS´s and GOTG's second Monday, not their third. But their drops are still pretty similar, so it doesn't change the fact that this is a solid number for it. If it has a halfway decent drop this weekend, it'll crack $300 million and will probably end up between $305-310 million, which is impressive and a lot closer to BvS's total than anybody could've predicted at the start of the year.

No, it's not. As August goes on, more and more schools start their business again. A 60% drop on a third Monday is decent. GOTG dropped 63% on its third Monday IIRC. Oh, and good number for SP.

Hopefully SP can mirror Bad Moms' staying power a bit. This year needs some leggy films.

Will be very interesting to see how Pets 2 will perform. I'm really not sure. Pets obviously has fantastic WOM, but its total will already be so high that it'll be really hard for it to increase IMO.

Same thing with Spectre. IIRC Martian and Mockingjay 2 were the only "real" 200-299m grossers last year.

June 2017 would've been an absolte bloodbath, but Bad Boys 3 already moved and World War Z 2 and Uncharted will get delayed, too. At this point, I'm only willing to do a Top 5: 5. Despicable Me 3: $310m 4. Spider-Man: $330m 3. Beauty and the Beast: $360m 2. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2: $440m 1. Episode VIII: $760m

Civil War definitely had pretty bad legs. The fact that it'll fall just short of IM3 domestic total despite opening $5m higher is kind of baffling considering its better reception and IM3 having bad legs, too.

Firstly, Man of Steel actually had 3D. Secondly, you're missing the point. Most people agree that the openings for the DCEU have been great, but BvS and SS's legs (MOS had okay-ish legs) are definitely bad/horrendous. Yes, rush factor has something to do with it (see Civil War), but word-of-mouth plays the biggest role. Look at Deadpool, which opened with roughly the same as SS, yet will finish with a $50m+ higher total. Why? Because it had great WOM. To your last paragraph. No, not everything is fine because the poor reception to the DCEU movies so far will result in the sequels to those films doing much worse (if they even make them). The point is that while DCEU movies can still have good/great OW's, their poor reception doesn't bode well for potential sequels.

Not Jungle Book, because that movie's awesome. One of the best of the year IMO.

I'm just frustrated that Pets (and Jungle Book) will keep Deadpool from finishing in the domestic Top 5 for the year. Oh well, you can't have everything.

Or Peter Berg.

It's Deadline, so the answer should be clear.

While I agree that $40m is probably too high, I also can't see it missing $30m. It'd be ridiculously front-loaded if it missed a X10 from previews.

The Friday-to-Friday drop should be pretty nasty, but I think it'll avoid a 70% weekend drop. However, with that Thursday I also can't see it going much higher than $43m. Firday jump obviously will be the key.

It's a shame that Gibson pretty much destroyed his career with his behaviour. Most directors would dream about having a movie the quality of Braveheart or Apocalypto.

As @Baumer loves Doryalready said, this is a normal/expected number. No need to panic in either direction. IMO sub-65% drop for the weekend is the goal.

I think we should wait for the second and third weekends before we make such claims. It's possible, but right now I'm thinking it finishes $15-20m under. That could change after the next couple of weeks though as I said.