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Yes, read my above comment, I would not be surprised at a ticket sales dropoff on the level of TDKR. (And I don't want to hear about the shooting, my IMAX matinee showing the day after the shooting was still absolutely packed, so the idea that everyone was scared away is off-base IMO. Its mixed WOM played just as much a part in its drop from TDK, if not more - I say more.)

I'd buy that. If general WOM is like my initial reactions of "It was...good? I guess?" it would affect the legs. The ~22% admissions drop from TDK to TDKR would take AoU to a $483m total. Still big, of course, but just further illustrating how much of a phenomenon TA1 was (both in terms of up-front demand, and WOM).

I am not fanboy spinning, I found AoU a bit of a letdown and have no personal investment in defending it. I do think people are kind of off the mark in treating this as a disaster, but I am not trying to mount a fanboy defense of it. I can understand why it's performing below expectations, it did feel kind of empty to me. The spark is just not there, in the film or in the audience reaction. (My Sunday audience was already less enthusiastic than my opening night audience.) I am just legitimately curious at the best weekdays movies have pulled without a ton of people being off school and/or work. Jandrew, you have made great points. I won't do this anymore, because you're absolutely right. I can't just impose one calendar. I was just playing around because I was curious.

Again, will be the second biggest Tuesday that wasn't an OD, a holiday, or had any benefit of kids being out of school and/or adults off work. Between TA1 and IM3. Not saying this as positive spin, I am genuinely interested in what films had the biggest "normal" weekdays where everyone was in school or at work, and there was nothing special to boost it (like The Vow's first Tuesday falling on Valentine's Day). It seems to be: TA1 $17.7M AoU $13-13.2M IM3 $11.3M THG $10.34M (unless some schools were off that week?) SM1 $9.96M Sniper(!) $9.92M ROTSith $9.9M TPOTChrist(!!) $9.28M TA1 (second Tues) $8.48M IM2 $8.38M If THG was indeed boosted by some schools/colleges being out that week, then #10 is DOFP with $8.2M. (Or if any schools or colleges were already out the week after Memorial Day to boost DOFP's first Tuesday, then #10 would be TPM with $8.18M.) (And wow that Sniper pulled a nearly $10M Tuesday, in January, with everyone back in school/work after that Monday. I only realize now how crazy that was.)

Out of curiosity, I looked at BOM's non-holiday Monday list, and here's what it looks like if you take out legitimate "summer weekdays" (June-August, when schools are actually out), and Mondays during Christmas/winter break, spring break, Thanksgiving week, Veteran's Day, or any other Mondays that would be boosted by people being off school or work. 1. TA1 $18,989,999 2. Revenge of the Sith $14,352,807 3. AoU $13,228,555 4. Shrek 2 $11,512,320 5. IM3 $11,267,610 6. SM1 $11,034,785 7. Phantom Menace $10,881,272 8. Hunger Games $10,823,788 9. Attack of the Clones $10,660,341 10. SM3 $10,285,268 And I'm not sure about THG; since not everybody does spring break the week after Easter, could that have benefited from some people being off school? (If you discount THG, The Passion of the Christ moves to 10th, and that was over a month before Easter, so AFAIK nobody was off school/work on that Monday...) Also, still amazing that over half of the biggest full schoolday/workday Mondays predated 3D or (any significant) IMAX. And if you adjust for inflation, it goes: TA1 Sith Menace SM1 Shrek 2 Clones Matrix Reloaded Passion AoU SM3 Weekend frontloading has certainly increased over time; of the biggest nobody-off Mondays by admissions, 8 predate 3D, only three happened in the last decade, and only two happened in the last 5 years. So as those big May OWs have gotten bigger, they seem to have sucked more business out of Monday. (Perhaps the increase in aggregate seating capacity per day for big openers siphons off weeknight spillover business? Similar to how internal frontloading has increased due to more screens and more seats leading to fewer sellouts and less spillover into Sat/Sun?)

You didn't specify. For all I knew you were going to watch the special editions. It ain't worth it; even if the picture quality isn't as good on the original versions (boo for dumping old laserdisc versions on DVD) you should watch the films as they were to all of us who grew up on them before 1997.

For Age of Ultron, I paid $13.50 for a Friday night, and $13 for a Sunday afternoon matinee. Not for IMAX or 3D or PLF...just for regular 2D.

They better be the original versions. If you're going to watch the original trilogy, actually watch the ORIGINAL trilogy.

Marcie was a-dork-able before a-dork-able was even a word, so I can give them a pass.

Stan Lee is basically the director emeritus of Marvel, he's a figurehead, I assume he's on the board of directors, but it's not like he has anything to do with day-to-day operations. He's just the grand old man of the company.

So basically, WB switched Pan and Vacation.

2012, or 2013? The last week of April 2013 was much more dead than 2012 was.

I'm not trying to determine how well past films would have done in China. I have no idea how well anything in the past would have done in China. For example, if Pirates 4 had come out today instead of in 2011, even with unfavorable exchange rates it could well have still gotten to a billion if it did really well in China. What I am trying to say is that the amount of tickets sold by past films like Jurassic Park, The Lion King, Harry Potter 1 and so forth, when multiplied by the current ticket prices in each market and converted to USD at today's exchange rates (unfavorable they may be) would adjust to over $1B as well. The North American, Western European and Japanese markets were stronger then; Latin America, Eastern Europe and Asia have grown, but the former "first world" markets have shrunk (and business for American imported films in Japan has generally fallen from 90s-00s levels). My point was more about how some of the films in 2010-12, when the 3D boom was at its biggest and the dollar was at its weakest, may not have sold enough tickets to get to $1B with things being as they are today. I am not trying to marginalize Furious 7 - with 2013 exchange rates it might have already been at $1.25B. The exchange rates are making it harder for films to reach $1B, so something like Furious 7 doing it now is definitely a big achievement. I really should have put my observations in a different thread, actually - they have nothing to do with Furious 7.

With the re-release in 2011, yes. But Harry Potter 1 was the closest miss in first run. Though even without adjusting for OS market inflation, HP1 would be well over $1B now, with domestic inflation and OS exchange changes (the dollar was even stronger in 2001). I am pretty sure TLK's original WW admissions would also be $1B today. Same for Jurassic Park (first run), the first two Lord of the Rings movies, Star Wars Episode I, and Shrek 2. And possibly Independence Day, Spider-Man, and/or Chamber of Secrets (DOM inflation + peludo's exchange-adjusted OS bring them very close to $1B, but I'm not sure if OS market ticket price inflations would bring them over the $1B mark when exchanged to USD. Probably?) On the flip side, The Dark Knight, Alice in Wonderland, Toy Story 3, Pirates 4, Skyfall and Hobbit 1 would not be $1B today. (Skyfall would be the closest, followed by TDK, then TS3. Hobbit wouldn't even be $900m, and Pirates 4 came out when the dollar was at its absolute weakest and would be something like $850m if peludo's exchange adjustments are correct.)

Stylish? Hell yeah. Faithful to the source material? Jury's out on that one. Yes, I defend the movie as being enjoyable despite being completely off the rails, but Danny DeVito as the Phantom Elephant Scissorhands of the Sewers is not faithful to the source material in any way, shape or form. But that's not saying I hate him - Tim Burton's Penguin is still one of the most utterly fucked-up villains in a non-R-rated mainstream blockbuster, and I cannot believe Burton got away with what he got away with. It's like the Frollo stuff in Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame, the success of a previous film or films gave the filmmakers license to pull off something you'd think executives would have vetoed before the word "go."

Most R-rated horror/slasher movies over the past several decades have been targeted at teens who are too young to get in without a parent or guardian. They've still always found a way to get in.

I keep forgetting that Jewel of the Nile was even a sequel to Romancing the Stone. And here's one I should have brought up earlier: Son of the Mask. Oh my god, what is that shit I don't even. (That was also the first movie I noticed to come to video after only 3 months - back then, that only happened for stuff that completely bombed at the BO.)

I believe that memo is a fake. For example, the second page says Tron: Ascension is coming out two days after Muertos. That would never happen.

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Neverending Story III is at least as insulting to the original as Phantom Menace.

But Tron 3 coming out two days after the Pixar movie? That is suspicious, that kind of stuff never happens. Ever.

Likely fake. I thought DisneyToon was basically dead, so why would they have future work scheduled up to 2020? Also, there is another supposed leaked page saying that the Indy film is coming in December 2017. There have not even been any rumblings about a script, I can't see them locking in a date that soon when there has been no movement on it. Oh, and the other page also says Tron: Ascension is releasing on November 24, two days after it says this is coming out. That would never happen - no studio would ever release two tentpoles on the same weekend, not even Disney.

There is a good chance that memo is fake. But yeah, I think they have no choice but to age them in real time. Unless they recast Dash and Violet, which would be a dumb idea that Brad would almost certainly not be on board with. Seeing that they aged Andy up and got the same actor, I am sure the same thing will happen here.

This may well be a hoax.

I have read that this may well be a hoax.