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Wtf. Joker has a 68% ?!?!? I thought it had like 85+... Fuck off critics and your blind love for marvel / woke nonsense. I mean you are telling me with a straight face that Ant Man 2 is better than Joker??? Seriously? Birds of Prey is the worst shit ever with hardly any redeeming qualities. Mulan is another overrated trash that somehow is certified fresh. Both rotten tomatoes and critics need to just go to hell. So furious with these entitled fuck faces.
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GODZILLA vs. KONG | March 31 2021 | Adam Wingard to direct
marveldcfox replied to grim22's topic in Box Office Discussion
Why is Legendary and WB being so stupid? Just to satisfy the ego of Dennis? Dune is the one that should be going to HBO max, as it won't make money at all in theaters. It would have bombed badly even if things were normal. GvK has some potential at the box office especially overseas territories. That and it is the type of movie made for the big screen aka IMAX. I know KOTM flopped, but this has Kong. There is some value to this. If things normalize, this can do 120M domestic and 300+ OS. Even if things don't normalize, it can do 200M WW. There I potential depending on when things get back to track. Can't say the same about Dune. In normal conditions it would have struggled to crack 250M WW. Now, eveb 100M WW will be a tall task. It is simple not appealing movie at all to the wider public. Just the the worst kind of big budget movie. -
Yup, I always expected this to be a kingsman2/sherlock Holmes 2 situation. Decrease domestically, but similar numbers overseas. However, pandemic, last minute change in plans, marketing and what not, has totally destroyed this franchise. This was the movie that was supposed to somewhat help theatres, but it has tanked. I don't think any studio is going to release anything big anytime soon. Also, I have a gut feeling that WW84 is going to do nothing for Hbo max. Hence, all this exercise will be in vain. All around disaster.
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Haha. Who knew it would be so uneventful!
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You can check out my posts last year. I said many times that WW2 was not going to match the original in North America. That movie may not have opened huge, but it had great legs and went past 410+. Very few solo superhero movies do that kind of number with first outing. It absolutely peaked or did the best it possibly could have. It had potential to grow in overseas markets, but clearly the audience didn't like it as much as the North Americans did. They just bought into the hype and checked it out. Next up Aquaman 2. Will do equal or slightly worse than original no matter what the reviews say. Sherlock Holmes 2/kingsman 2 style.
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That was expected. 1) Covid-19 is still keeping folks away from theatre. The biggest hits in China and Japan would have done much more if not for the present situation. 2) WB screwed up the marketing really bad by constantly delaying it and then deciding to release it with only 3 weeks of campaign time. 3) The trailers were kinda meh compared to the first. 4) Overseas audience especially Asia didn't like the first movie all that much to return for a second time. Still, I expect the wom to be good on this, so that it can take advantage of Christmas and new year to match if not beat the original in some markets.
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Done shooting for 2020. More shootings in 2021 and 2022. Avatar2 will release in 2023.
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The thing with MCU so far has been that they were making movies on fresh properties/characters. If decent, fans and public came in numbers to watch them. F4 has a lot of stigma surrounding it and frankly is coming too soon after the last debacle. Unless it is truly exceptional, the casual fans & general public won't be coming in big numbers. Maybe the hardcore f4 fans will come, but they have some really unrealistic expectations. Everyone has an opinion about how it should be. Frankly, they hold this franchise at a very high pedestal, which in today's day and age is laughable. Many better things and characters have come since then. I am not quite sure, marvel can take a property with so much stigma and turn it around into a 800+M WW hit. You don't magically go from 170+M WW to 800+M WW just because you are now part of Disney/MCU. And that's after assuming the movie is good. At its peak, F4 did 330M. Best case scenario for this is 500-600M WW. Also, I am fully aware of spiderman films. With all the pre release exposure, buzz, hype, mcu connection and great reviews, it did 15M less than spiderman3 2007. It would have easily done 1+B if public & fans weren't burnt after SM3, amazing spiderman 1&2. Those movies were miles better than F4 yet there was some stigma. F4 is in a much worse situation.