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Wonder Woman continues to prove strong with its legs. It has achieved the 4th best fourth weekend among comic book films, essentially on par or above films that opened to significantly larger amounts. It has dropped lighter coming out of an inflated Father's Day weekend than some films did heading into an inflated Memorial Day weekend. Best 4th Weekends for Live Action Comic Book Movies Title (Year) — Fourth Weekend Gross (Drop from Third Weekend) Marvel’s The Avengers (2012) — 36.7 million (-34.1%)* Spider-Man (2002) — 28.5 million (-36.7%)* The Dark Knight (2008) — 26.1 million (-38.8%) Wonder Woman (2017) — 25.2 million (-39.0%) Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) — 21.7 million (-44.2%)* Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017) — 20.9 million (-39.7%)* Iron Man (2008) — 20.4 million (-35.8%)* Iron Man 3 (2013) — 19.3 million (-46.0%)* The Dark Knight Rises (2012) — 19.0 million (-46.9%) Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) — 17.2 million (-31.5%) Deadpool (2016) — 16.7 million (-46.2%) Iron Man 2 (2010) — 16.5 million (-37.6%)* Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014) — 16.2 million (-36.6%) Captain America: Civil War (2016) — 15.4 million (-53.3%)* Batman (1989) — 15.1 million (-21.5%) Spider-Man 2 (2004) — 15.0 million (-39.4%) Spider-Man 3 (2007) — 14.3 million (-50.6%)* Doctor Strange (2016) — 13.7 million (-22.7%)** Men in Black (1997) — 12.4 million (-35.1%) Suicide Squad (2016) — 12.2 million (-41.3%) Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014) — 11.9 million (-28.7%)*** 300 (2007) — 11.4 million (-42.4%) Man of Steel (2013) — 11.4 million (-45.0%) Thor: The Dark World (2013) — 11.1 million (-21.9%)** *Memorial Day Weekend **Thanksgiving Weekend (U.S.) ***Labour Day Weekend (Canada/U.S.) Peace, Mike
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With weekend estimates, Wonder Woman has officially joined the 3+ multiplier club, sitting at a multiplier of 3.08 after only 4 weekends. That seems incredible looking back - I don't think anyone expected this. It needs to hit ~$365 million to best the multipliers of GOTG (3.53) and Spider-Man (3.52), to have the best comic book film multiplier of the modern era. If Wonder Woman can hit ~$369 million, it would also be the best multiplier for a $40M+ opener since Batman in 1989. GOTG Vol. 2 also sits at a strong 2.60 multiplier off a huge $146.5 million opening weekend. Live Action Comic Book Film Multipliers for $40+ million Openers Rank / Title (Year) / Opening Weekend Gross (Multiplier) Marvel’s The Avengers (2012) — 207.4 million (3.00) Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) — 191.3 million (2.40) Captain America: Civil War (2016) — 179.1 million (2.28) Iron Man 3 (2013) — 174.1 million (2.35) Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) — 166.0 million (1.99) The Dark Knight Rises (2012) — 160.9 million (2.79) The Dark Knight (2008) — 158.4 million (3.38) Spider-Man 3 (2007) — 151.1 million (2.23) Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017) — 146.5 million (2.60)^ Suicide Squad (2016) — 133.7 million (2.43) Deadpool (2016) — 132.4 million (2.74) Iron Man 2 (2010) — 128.1 million (2.44) Man of Steel (2013) — 116.6 million (2.50) Spider-Man (2002) — 114.8 million (3.52) Wonder Woman (2017) — 103.3 million (3.08)^ X-Men: The Last Stand (2006) — 102.8 million (2.28) Iron Man (2008) — 98.6 million (3.23) Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014) — 95.0 million (2.73) Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) — 94.3 million (3.53) The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014) — 91.6 million (2.21) X-Men: Days of Future Past (2014) — 90.8 million (2.58) Logan (2017) — 88.4 million (2.56) Spider-Man 2 (2004) — 88.2 million* Thor: The Dark World (2013) — 85.7 million (2.41) X2: X-Men United (2003) — 85.6 million (2.51) Doctor Strange (2016) — 85.1 million (2.74) X-Men Origins: Wolverine (2009) — 85.1 million (2.11) Rest of list: *Wednesday Opener (thus not comparable) **Tuesday Opener (thus not comparable) ^So Far - Box Office Run Not Yet Complete Peace, Mike
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Eh, I think Ridley Scott thinks he knows the film will be "revealing" that Deckard is a replicant "one way or the other", but I feel like it's not going to be quite as cut and dry as he is saying. Scott has strongly insisted that Deckard is a replicant, so we all know his views on this. Earlier Villeneuve has said: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/blade-runner-2049-is-harrison-fords-deckard-a-replicant-957417 https://www.polygon.com/2017/5/8/15580958/blade-runner-2049-rick-deckard-replicant Villeneuve has also said (I can't remember where I read it/what interview) that he will "address" the mystery (of whether Deckard is a replicant or not), and also that he loves doubts, mystery, shadows, etc. So, maybe Villeneuve is just being purposefully vague so as to not have to answer the question, but something about his answers tell me that he acknowledges the importance of allowing a film like this to sit in the grey. We may get some "answers", but I suspect there will still be a lot of interesting questions thematically. Peace, Mike
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Using grim's projection for the weekend, Wonder Woman will jump over Iron Man and Iron Man 2 to become the 15th highest grossing comic book film by the end of Sunday. It will also hit a 3.0 multiplier by the end of tomorrow (Saturday) and join the 3+ multiplier club. A terrific performance at the box office, no doubt about it. Highest Grossing Comic Book Films Marvel’s The Avengers (2012) — 623.4 million The Dark Knight (2008) — 534.9 million Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) — 459.0 million The Dark Knight Rises (2012) — 448.1 million Iron Man 3 (2013) — 409.0 million Captain America: Civil War (2016) — 408.1 million Spider-Man (2002) — 403.7 million Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017) — 377.2 million^ Spider-Man 2 (2004) — 373.6 million Deadpool (2016)— 363.1 million Spider-Man 3 (2007)— 336.5 million Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) — 333.2 million Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) — 330.4 million Suicide Squad (2016) — 325.1 million Iron Man (2008) — 318.4 million Iron Man 2 (2010) — 312.4 million Wonder Woman (2017) — 293.2 million^ Man of Steel (2013) — 291.0 million The Amazing Spider-Man (2012) — 262.0 million Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014) — 259.8 million Batman (1989) — 251.2 million Men in Black (1997) — 250.7 million X-Men: The Last Stand (2006) — 234.4 millon X-Men: Days of Future Past (2014) — 233.9 million Doctor Strange (2016) — 232.6 million ^As of Thursday June 22nd Peace, Mike
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I have been looking forward to this for a while, but the featurette has definitely increased my anticipation levels. The only thing that irks me about this is Jared Leto. I apologize to the Leto fans out there, but man does he really rub me the wrong way. He makes me feel the opposite of excited, and I wish that wasn't the case. Peace, Mike
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I wouldn't be totally set on those Wed/Thur numbers. I mentioned in the other thread with the Tuesday numbers that Wonder Woman's drop was typical given some comparisons: Increases on Tuesday post-Father’s Day Captain America: Civil War: +9.2% X-Men: Apocalypse: +15.1% Avengers: Age of Ultron: +19.9% X-Men: Days of Future Past: +20.2% Clearly, the Tuesday increases were muted. Well, looking at those same films, they went on to have what appear to be muted Wednesday drops as well: Wednesday Drops post-Father's Day Captain America: Civil War: -14.8% X-Men: Apocalypse: -21.7% Avengers: Age of Ultron: -18.9% X-Men: Days of Future Past: -16.7% So, I think you could be exactly right with Wonder Woman dropping 25% on Wednesday, but I guess I wouldn't call it a foregone conclusion, given that Wonder Woman's Tuesday increase was "only" 13%. Peace, Mike
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Here are some increases for films on the Tuesday after Father's Day (some comparisons for Wonder Woman and for Cars). Looks like Tuesday increases are generally muted. Wonder Woman's increase looks pretty typical given this, and likely impacted somewhat by Transformers previews. Increases on Tuesday post-Father’s Day Captain America: Civil War: +9.2% X-Men: Apocalypse: +15.1% Avengers: Age of Ultron: +19.9% Finding Dory: +18.5% Inside Out: +24.3% How To Train Your Dragon 2: +16.8% Peace, Mike
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I see both sides to the conversation around Wonder Woman's Friday increase (<70% or 70+% increase). My instinct is to say that we continue to get deeper into June/the summer, more kids get off school, and so Wonder Woman is very likely to only increase 60-65% this coming Friday. But this is also what my instinct told me last Friday (and I posted as such), and then Wonder Woman totally made me look wrong by increasing 80% compared to 71% the Friday prior! So... I'm once again hesitant to predict another 70+% increase on Friday, and I expect a softer Friday increase. But what the hell do I know! Heh. I also wonder how Transformers 5 opening on Wednesday will impact the landscape of the week for the rest of the films compared to if it was a Friday opener. Or if it changes anything at all - I don't know. Peace, Mike
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It could be that Cars 3 is just not going to hold as well as films like Finding Dory and Inside Out, but I think at least part of it has to do with it being more of a Father's Day type film, and this at least seems evident looking at how it played out over the weekend. Cars 3 dropped 5.8% on SAT and then 15.2% on SUN, which compares favourably to: Inside Out, which dropped 9.7% on SAT and then 18.5% on SUN. Finding Dory, which dropped 16.6% on SAT and then 24% on SUN. This is just a rudimentary look, and one could make the argument that this just isn't the greatest drop for Cars 3 regardless, but it does seem that Cars 3 had more of a boost from Father's Day. So it seems like a logical conclusion to me that Cars 3 would drop harder on Monday to "correct" or account for this. Peace, Mike
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It's a pretty standard drop, I would say, looking at past films that increased on Father's Day Sunday: The Mummy: -70.6% (after increasing 1.4% on Sunday) Civil War: -66.2% (after increasing 4.4% on Sunday) San Andreas: -70.5% (after increasing 1.3% on Sunday) Mad Max: Fury Road: -68.5% (after increasing 8.8% on Sunday) Avengers: Age of Ultron: -69.6% (after increasing 2.9% on Sunday) Godzilla: -68.6% (after increase 0.9% on Sunday) Iron Man 3: -71.7% (after increasing 9.5% on Sunday) Peace, Mike
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Transformers: The Last Knight | 6/21/2017 | Big Budget, Weak OW?
MikeQ replied to Neo's topic in Box Office Discussion
There are a couple reviews posted on Rotten Tomatoes, for those interested: If there's a movie worse than this set for release this year, let's hope the distributor has the good sense not to do it. June 20, 2017 | Rating: 1/5 | Full Review… Daniel M. Kimmel New England Movies Weekly Military-Industrial Uncomplicated...Despite the theme that "Magic does exist" ("It was found long ago. Inside a crashed alien ship"), The Last Knight is all mirthless jokes and thrill-less mayhem. June 20, 2017 | Rating: .5/4 | Full Review… Peter Canavese Groucho Reviews Peace, Mike -
Transformers: The Last Knight | 6/21/2017 | Big Budget, Weak OW?
MikeQ replied to Neo's topic in Box Office Discussion
I'm aware of that. I'm not sure what your point is? I was indicating that for as long as I can remember, I thought the title was something it wasn't. Peace, Mike -
Transformers: The Last Knight | 6/21/2017 | Big Budget, Weak OW?
MikeQ replied to Neo's topic in Box Office Discussion
So, this goes to show how much I don't pay attention to the Transformers movies, but today my mind was blown when looking at the films on box office mojo and realizing that the third film of the series is called "Dark of the Moon" and NOT "Dark Side of the Moon". I have always thought it was the latter. I even thought BOM had made a typo with the title until I looked it up elsewhere. Peace, Mike -
The list again with Wonder Woman's actual weekend gross just to illustrate how stunning it is again (would have been an exceptional third weekend and corresponding drop even without a Father's Day boost). Best 3rd Weekends for Live Action Comic Book Movies Title (Year) — Third Weekend Gross (Drop from Second Weekend) Marvel’s The Avengers (2012) — 55.6 million (-46.0%) Spider-Man (2002) — 45.0 million (-36.9%) The Dark Knight (2008) — 42.7 million (-43.2%) Wonder Woman (2017) — 41.3 million (-29.5%) Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) — 38.9 million (-50.0%) Iron Man 3 (2013) — 35.8 million (-50.7%) The Dark Knight Rises (2012) — 35.7 million (-42.5%) Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017) — 34.7 million (-46.9%) Captain America: Civil War (2016) — 32.9 million (-54.7%) Iron Man (2008) — 31.8 million (-37.8%) Deadpool (2016) — 31.1 million (-44.9%) Spider-Man 3 (2007) — 29.0 million (-50.1%) Iron Man 2 (2010) — 26.4 million (-49.3%) Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014) — 25.6 million (-38.0%) Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) — 25.1 million (-40.4%) Rest of list: The list for best 4th weekends -- where will Wonder Woman fall I wonder? Best 4th Weekends for Live Action Comic Book Movies Title (Year) — Fourth Weekend Gross (Drop from Third Weekend) Marvel’s The Avengers (2012) — 36.7 million (-34.1%) Spider-Man (2002) — 28.5 million (-36.7%)* The Dark Knight (2008) — 26.1 million (-38.8%) Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) — 21.7 million (-44.2%)* Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017) — 20.9 million (-39.7%)* Iron Man (2008) — 20.4 million (-35.8%)* Iron Man 3 (2013) — 19.3 million (-46.0%)* The Dark Knight Rises (2012) — 19.0 million (-46.9%) Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) — 17.2 million (-31.5%) Deadpool (2016) — 16.7 million (-46.2%) Iron Man 2 (2010) — 16.5 million (-37.6%)* Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014) — 16.2 million (-36.6%) Captain America: Civil War (2016) — 15.4 million (-53.3%)* Batman (1989) — 15.1 million (-21.5%) Spider-Man 2 (2004) — 15.0 million (-39.4%) Rest of list: *Memorial Day Weekend **Thanksgiving Weekend (U.S.) ***Labour Day Weekend (Canada/U.S.) Peace, Mike
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Just stunning for Wonder Woman. It has the fourth best 3rd weekend among comic book films. Wonder Woman’s third weekend bests the third weekends of Age of Ultron, Iron Man 3, The Dark Knight Rises, GOTG Vol. 2, and Civil War, despite those films opening higher by $88 million, $70.9 million, $57.6 million, $43.2 million, and $75.8 million, respectively. Best 3rd Weekends for Live Action Comic Book Movies Title (Year) — Third Weekend Gross (Drop from Second Weekend) Marvel’s The Avengers (2012) — 55.6 million (-46.0%) Spider-Man (2002) — 45.0 million (-36.9%) The Dark Knight (2008) — 42.7 million (-43.2%) Wonder Woman (2017) — 40.8 million (-30.3%) Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) — 38.9 million (-50.0%) Iron Man 3 (2013) — 35.8 million (-50.7%) The Dark Knight Rises (2012) — 35.7 million (-42.5%) Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017) — 34.7 million (-46.9%) Captain America: Civil War (2016) — 32.9 million (-54.7%) Iron Man (2008) — 31.8 million (-37.8%) Deadpool (2016) — 31.1 million (-44.9%) Spider-Man 3 (2007) — 29.0 million (-50.1%) Iron Man 2 (2010) — 26.4 million (-49.3%) Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014) — 25.6 million (-38.0%) Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) — 25.1 million (-40.4%) Spider-Man 2 (2004) — 24.8 million (-45.2%) Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016) — 23.4 million (-54.5%) Suicide Squad (2016) — 20.9 million (-52.1%) Man of Steel (2013) — 20.7 million (-49.8%) 300 (2007) — 19.9 million (-39.6%) Batman (1989) — 19.2 million (-36.0%) Men in Black (1997) — 19.0 million (-36.7%) Logan (2017) — 17.8 million (-53.3%) Doctor Strange (2016) — 17.8 million (-58.7%) X2: X-Men United (2003) — 17.3 million (-56.8%) The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014) — 16.8 million (-52.7%) Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014) — 16.7 million (-41.4%) Peace, Mike
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Updated RT watch: All Eyez on Me ends up being one of the worst reviewed wide-release films of the summer so far. And Cars 3 ends up fresh (even if not enthusiastically so), meaning that Pixar's only "rotten" film is still just Cars 2. 2017 Summer Films RT Watch (Wide-Release — May/June/July/August) Wonder Woman — 92% — 7.6 rating It Comes At Night — 87% — 7.4 rating Captain Underpants — 85% — 6.8 rating Megan Leavey — 82% — 6.7 rating Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 — 81% — 7.1 rating Alien: Covenant — 71% — 6.4 rating Cars 3 — 65% — 6.2 rating 47 Meters Down — 55% — 5.6 rating Rough Night — 52% — 5.6 rating The Dinner — 51% — 5.6 rating Everything, Everything — 48% — 5.5 rating Snatched — 36% — 5.1 rating Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales — 29% — 4.7 rating King Arthur: Legend of the Sword — 28% — 4.6 rating All Eyez on Me — 24% — 4.3 rating Baywatch — 19% — 4.0 rating Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Long Haul — 18% — 4.2 rating The Mummy — 16% — 4.3 rating (Last summer half of the 42 wide-release films tracked were “rotten” on RT, and only 10 of the films had an 80+%.) Peace, Mike