MikeQ

Here is my updated list of multipliers for all films (Friday openers) that opened to $70+ million. I've added IT to the list - there are now 103 films that have ever opened to $70+ million. (I'm sorry the formatting sucks - the forum still doesn't (and I guess never will, now) retain formatting, so all of my italicizing of years, bolding of multipliers, etc, aren't retained and makes the list harder to read - too much info to go back and add the formatting manually each time I post.) Despicable Me 3 has now entered the top 10 multipliers (with a 3.63 multiplier), knocking Finding Dory (with a 3.60 multiplier) out of the top 10. Thus, animated films still dominate this list (6 of the top 10 are animated films). Wonder Woman sits at a 3.99 multiplier, and technically will end its run there slightly below a 4.0 multiplier. For the purposes of the list, I round up for all films when the third decimal is a 5 or greater (e.g. if the multiplier is 3.625, it rounds up to a 3.63 multiplier). Wonder Woman will soon hit 3.995, which would normally entail rounding up to 4.00, but that doesn't seem right when it is a milestone like hitting a 3.0 or a 4.0 multiplier. Thus, it will end with a 3.99 multiplier - incredible in itself, and represents the only comic book film in the top 10. Best Multipliers Ever for $70+ Million Opening Films (Friday Openers): 1. Avatar (2009) — 77.0 million (9.73) 2. Finding Nemo (2003) — 70.3 million (4.84) 3. Zootopia (2016) — 75.1 million (4.55) 4. Wonder Woman (2017) — 103.3 million (3.99)^ 5. Inside Out (2015) — 90.4 million (3.94) 6. American Sniper (2015) — 89.3 million (3.92) 7. Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) — 248.0 million (3.78) 8. Toy Story 3 (2010) — 110.3 million (3.76) 9. The Incredibles (2004) — 70.5 million (3.71) 10. Despicable Me 3 (2017) — 72.4 million (3.63)^ ^Run Not Yet Complete Peace, Mike

I presumed from the get-go that Blade Runner 2049 was going to do relatively so-so (poorly relative to budget) at the box office, and was just happy we were getting a well-financed sequel made by a top notch director to enjoy. I mean, the original has become a cult classic among film fans, but it wasn't some huge phenomenon (and from what I understand, pretty widely disliked when the theatrical version opened). With that being said, this will be the highest opening film for Villeneuve. Peace, Mike

Villeneuve is a hot director right now and on a roll in terms of critical reception of his films. His last three films (Sicario, Arrival, and now Blade Runner 2049) have been perhaps his most critically acclaimed. Both Sicario and Arrival nabbed multiple Oscar nominations. And to have created a Blade Runner sequel that has somehow received great reviews, when the original is considered by many to be the greatest sci-fi film of all time, is pretty remarkable in itself. Metacritic Score: Blade Runner 2049 — 82 Sicario — 82 Arrival — 81 Incendies — 80 Prisoners — 74 Maelstrom — 66 Polytechnique — 63 Enemy — 61 Rotten Tomatoes Score: Arrival — 94% (8.3 rating) Sicario — 94% (8.0 rating) Incendies — 92% (7.9 rating) Blade Runner 2049 — 91% (8.4 rating) Polytechnique — 85% (7.0 rating) Prisoners — 81% (7.3 rating) Maelstrom — 80% (6.7 rating) Enemy — 75% (6.7 rating) Peace, Mike

I have read at least a few reviewers that have said you don't need to watch the first before seeing the film. For example, Peter Debruge at Variety says: I have also read some other comments from reviewers that say you do not have to have watched the first, but that it will make the film better if you have. Peace, Mike

The reviews are glowing and have me very excited to see the film. I've been reading some of my favourite reviewers/publications (skipping over plot points or spoilers) to see what they think - Debruge at Variety says: No review from the NYTimes yet - I'd love to read Dargis' take on the film, but I'll be happy to read what Scott thinks too if he ends up the reviewer. Peace, Mike

Also, @The Pumpkin Spice Panda created a club for IT outgrossing Gravity ($274M) domestically. I explained in detail why I thought there was a very slim chance of that happening, and now I may have to eat some serious crow (and I will gladly do so). It only needs a 2.34 multiplier (based on the estimated weekend gross of $117.15M) to pass that mark, so it looks likely, unless the legs are frontloaded due to the huge opening weekend. Mad props to Panda either way. Peace, Mike

Looking at the past few years' first non-labour day weekend of September (the equivalent to this weekend), many films fell in the high 40% and 50+% range on Sunday. Maybe WB's projected 55% drop on Sunday isn't totally unreasonable, given that Hurricane Irma slammed into Florida today. *shrug* Ultimately, I don't think it really matters though, because $117+ million for the weekend is bonkers for a horror film in September. Incredible opening weekend. Peace, Mike

Stunning opening day for IT. To beat the previous September opening weekend record in it's opening day is remarkable. Also, the movie is excellent. Full, emotionally and thematically resonant, and with strong, fully realized central characters. The actors playing the kids were great, and their interactions felt grounded and real. And while horror preferences vary (as there is such a diversity of horror films), I found its horror elements to be a very satisfying mix of different horror techniques and surprising in great ways (I want to specify more here, but I'll have to do it in the spoiler-allowed review thread). I can't remember the last time I saw a horror film that felt so pleasantly rich and where I felt invested to such a degree. I look forward to Part 2. Peace, Mike

Wonder Woman will soon pass milestones that I didn't think it could necessarily hit not too long ago. Not only has it passed The Hungers Games and Civil War, but tomorrow it will pass Iron Man 3 and enter the top 20 grossing films of all time domestically. Tomorrow it will also enter the top 5 grossing comic book films of all time, behind only the two Avengers movies and the two Dark Knight movies. And the one that I was fairly certain it couldn't quite accomplish, hitting a 4x multiplier, looks like it could happen now. It needs to hit a smidgeon over $413M to do so. Thus it needs a little more than $4M more to hit a 4 multiplier. It sits at a 3.96 multiplier right now. As so many have said, a truly phenomenal run. Peace, Mike

Sure, the size of the opening is a factor that will play into what legs the film has, which is one of the reasons why I list the opening weekends of the films along with their multiplier. I, and others, have talked about this (and other factors that influence legs) months ago when I first started tracking GOTG Vol. 2's legs, and then Wonder Woman's legs, relative to other comic book films. I'm not going to keep comparing Wonder Woman only to her fellow $100+ million openers, because Wonder Woman became the leggiest $100+ million opener over a month ago! Before that it also easily became the leggiest major ($40+ million opening) comic book film since Batman in 1989! I could keep reiterating those points, or look to further benchmarks for fun. I think the list makes Wonder Woman look exceptionally strong as other posters have pointed out. It is an exceptional run for its genre, and I've spent pretty much its whole run praising its box office performance and breaking down how well it compares to other comic book films. Peace, Mike

Wonder Woman just keeps on chugging, and has achieved the fourth best multiplier of any $70+ million opener ever, passing Inside Out (3.942 vs 3.941). Best Multipliers Ever for $70+ Million Opening Films (Friday Openers): Rank / Title (Year) / Opening Weekend Gross / Multiplier 1. Avatar (2009) — 77.0 million (9.73) 2. Finding Nemo (2003) — 70.3 million (4.84) 3. Zootopia (2016) — 75.1 million (4.55) 4. Wonder Woman (2017) — 103.3 million (3.94) 5. Inside Out (2015) — 90.4 million (3.94) 6. American Sniper (2015) — 89.3 million (3.92) 7. Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) — 248.0 million (3.78) 8. Toy Story 3 (2010) — 110.3 million (3.76) 9. The Incredibles (2004) — 70.5 million (3.71) 10. Finding Dory (2016) — 135.1 million (3.60) Peace, Mike

Good solid hold for 'Annabelle: Creation' - its drop compares favourably to comparable sequels and even the first Annabelle: Insidious Chapter 2: -65.7% The Conjuring 2: -63.2% Annabelle: -57.3% Annabelle: Creation: -55.7% Peace, Mike

If WrathofHan's projection works out, and 'Annabelle: Creation' drops 63-66% this coming weekend, that seems normal to me for big horror sequels/prequels. The Conjuring 2 dropped 63% in its second weekend, and Insidious Chapter 2 dropped 66% in its second weekend, after both opening to $40M. Peace, Mike

I can't speak to the 'Annabelle' movies, as I haven't seen them. But 'The Conjuring' films are great, for me, because of Ed and Lorraine Warren, who are such well-developed, likeable, and generous characters - their relationship/partnership with each other feels foundational to the films. Additionally, both of the films explore and exploit the insecurities of different working class families, and interweave those stories with old school Christian/religious horror motifs. Though fundamentally they are simple stories, they feel fresh and really work. And James Wan is an excellent director - very, very good at his craft, at least with these films. He knows how to create building tension and atmosphere, but is also good at crafting good jump scares (which is a skill I value highly). Overall, the films feel different from most horror movies for me, in that they are very good horror films, but in some ways they also kind of just feel like films that happen to be of the horror genre. Peace, Mike

Summer RT Watch Update: Added the openers from this weekend and last weekend. 'Annabelle: Creation' and the wide-expanding 'Detroit' prove 'Fresh', while the rest fall in the 'Rotten' range. The "Fresh" vs "Rotten" ratio isn't looking so great, with 17 fresh and 20 rotten so far this summer. Though we've had quite a few stinkers, at least there have been some real "cream of the crop" this summer in terms of critical reception. According to BOM's updated release schedule (indicating what will open wide), only 5 more wide-release films of the summer to go: The Hitman's Bodyguard Logan Lucky All Saints Birth of the Dragon Leap! This will make for 42 wide-release films this summer, exactly the same as last summer. 2017 Summer Films RT Watch (Wide-Release — May/June/July/August) 1. The Big Sick — 98% — 8.3 rating 2. Baby Driver — 94% — 8.0 rating 3. War for the Planet of the Apes — 93% — 8.1 rating 4. Dunkirk — 93% — 8.7 rating 5. Spider-Man: Homecoming — 92% — 7.6 rating 6. Wonder Woman — 92% — 7.5 rating 7. It Comes At Night — 88% — 7.4 rating 8. Girls Trip — 88% — 6.9 rating 9. Captain Underpants — 86% — 6.9 rating 10. Detroit — 84% — 7.5 rating 11. Megan Leavey — 83% — 6.7 rating 12. Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 — 82% — 7.1 rating 13. Atomic Blonde — 76% — 6.5 rating 14. Alien: Covenant — 71% — 6.4 rating 15. Annabelle: Creation — 68% — 6.2 rating 16. Cars 3 — 68% — 6.1 rating 17. Despicable Me 3 — 61% — 5.7 rating 18. 47 Meters Down — 55% — 5.5 rating 19. The Dinner — 51% — 5.6 rating 20. The Glass Castle — 50% — 6.2 rating 21. Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets — 50% — 5.5 rating 22. Rough Night — 48% — 5.4 rating 23. Everything, Everything — 47% — 5.4 rating 24. Kidnap — 38% — 4.5 rating 25. Snatched — 35% — 5.1 rating 26. Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales — 29% — 4.7 rating 27. King Arthur: Legend of the Sword — 28% — 4.6 rating 28. Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Long Haul — 20% — 4.2 rating 29. Baywatch — 19% — 4.0 rating 30. The Dark Tower — 18% — 4.1 rating 31. Wish Upon — 18% — 3.8 rating 32. The House — 17% — 3.6 rating 33. All Eyez on Me — 16% — 4.3 rating 34. The Mummy — 16% — 4.2 rating 35. Transformers: The Last Knight — 15% — 3.3 rating 36. The Nut Job 2: Nutty by Nature — 11% — 3.8 rating 37. The Emoji Movie — 8% — 2.5 rating (Last summer half of the 42 wide-release films tracked were “rotten” on RT, only 10 of the films had an 80+%, and only one film had an 8.0+ average rating) Peace, Mike

About $580,000 more than Spider-Man's equivalent weekend, and at $402.2M total domestic Wonder Woman now sits ~$200,000 above Spidey cumulatively (after trailing behind it previously). Assuming Wonder Woman performs in a normal range through next Monday-Sunday (and doesn't get a huge theatre loss and fall off a cliff next weekend), it should pass Spidey's $403.7M total next weekend. Peace, Mike

It looks like Wonder Woman will make more this weekend than Spider-Man did in the entire week (at the equivalent week in its run). Looking at maybe ~$500,000 more this weekend alone than Spidey made. Wonder Woman, with estimates, is only trailing $227,000 behind Spidey on day 71 (in terms of total domestic gross), and she should be ahead of Spidey by the end of the weekend. Peace, Mike

Wonder Woman has already outdone Spider-Man for Week 10 of their runs with the Thursday gross yet to be reported for Wonder Woman: Wonder Woman: $3.342 million (without Thursday’s gross); likely ~$3.6 million with Thursday Spider-Man: $3.248 million Wonder Woman is thus pulling close to Spider-Man, and should be able to “pass” it very soon in terms of following their respective runs day-to-day. In weeks 11 and 12, Spider-Man dropped -61% and -58.5%, respectively. Thus, Wonder Woman has the potential to pull ahead considerably in the next two weeks and catch its $403.7 million total relatively soon. With theatre counts up for this next week (Fri-Thu), Wonder Woman is losing about 26% of its theatres, a sizeable chunk, but which compares very favourably to Spider-Man which lost a whopping 62% of its theatres in the same week. Spidey went on to lose over 50% of its remaining theatres the week after, too. If Wonder Woman sticks around well enough and also gets a Labour Day boost, it could make a push for the top 5 grossing comic book films. But this would just be icing on the cake. It will easily pass Spider-Man to become the highest grossing origin solo CBM, which is an exceptional run. Highest Grossing Comic Book Films (sorry the formatting isn't very readable, the forums still don't retain my original formatting for me ) I’ll add that Wonder Woman currently sits at a 3.88 multiplier - that multiplier (with a $100+ million opening and a $400+ million gross) is, again, simply incredible for a comic book film. It could also realistically end up obtain the 4th or 5th highest multiplier ever for any film that opened to $70+ million, depending how leggy it is through Labour Day weekend: Best Multipliers Ever for $70+ Million Opening Films (Friday Openers): Peace, Mike

I think the chances of Dunkirk having a 35% drop or better this weekend are looking really good. Like I've said before, I do expect this to have some strong legs through August. I have Wonder Woman pegged at around a $2.3 million weekend, and thus passing $400M total on Tuesday. I can't foresee it passing the $400M mark on Monday, unless it pushes closer to $2.6 million for the weekend. Peace, Mike

RT Watch Update: Atomic Blonde ends up the thirteenth wide-release film of the summer that achieves “Certified Fresh”. I wasn’t sure if Transformers could be “dethroned” as the worst reviewed film of the summer, but The Emoji Movie has easily done so. So far this summer, we have 15 “Fresh” vs 16 “Rotten” films - almost identical to the 50/50 breakdown of last summer. The upside of this summer is that we have more very “cream of the crop” films (four 8+ rating films vs only one total last summer). The downside is that we have a slew of stinkers as well. According to BOM, there are 15 more wide-release films of the summer (opening in August): The Dark Tower Kidnap Detroit (expanding wide) Annabelle: Creation The Glass Castle The Nut Job 2: Nutty by Nature The Adventurer’s The Hitman’s Bodyguard Logan Lucy All Saints Birth of the Dragon Crown Heights A Gentleman Leap! Tulip Fever Annabelle: Creation is looking like it could end up being one of the better reviewed films of the summer, as with 13 reviews in, it sits at 100% with an 8.2 average rating. However, this is a small sample of reviews for now. Once Detroit expands, and I add it to the list, it will also be one of the better reviewed films of the summer, as it sits at 95% (with a 7.9 average rating) with 61 reviews. It remains to be seen if we’ll have any other jewels, in terms of critical reception, in the last month of the summer season of movies. 2017 Summer Films RT Watch (Wide-Release — May/June/July/August) The Big Sick — 98% — 8.3 rating Baby Driver — 95% — 8.0 rating Dunkirk — 93% — 8.7 rating War for the Planet of the Apes — 93% — 8.1 rating Spider-Man: Homecoming — 92% — 7.6 rating Wonder Woman — 92% — 7.5 rating It Comes At Night — 88% — 7.4 rating Girls Trip — 87% — 6.9 rating Captain Underpants — 86% — 6.9 rating Megan Leavey — 83% — 6.7 rating Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 — 82% — 7.1 rating Atomic Blonde — 74% — 6.4 rating Alien: Covenant — 70% — 6.4 rating Cars 3 — 68% — 6.1 rating Despicable Me 3 — 61% — 5.7 rating 47 Meters Down — 55% — 5.5 rating Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets — 52% — 5.6 rating The Dinner — 50% — 5.6 rating Rough Night — 48% — 5.4 rating Everything, Everything — 47% — 5.4 rating Snatched — 35% — 5.1 rating Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales — 29% — 4.7 rating King Arthur: Legend of the Sword — 28% — 4.6 rating Diary of a Wimpy Kid: The Long Haul — 20% — 4.2 rating Baywatch — 19% — 4.0 rating Wish Upon — 19% — 3.8 rating The House — 19% — 3.7 rating All Eyez on Me — 16% — 4.3 rating The Mummy — 15% — 4.2 rating Transformers: The Last Knight — 15% — 3.2 rating The Emoji Movie — 7% — 2.3 rating (Last summer half of the 42 wide-release films tracked were “rotten” on RT, only 10 of the films had an 80+%, and only one film had an 8.0+ average rating) Peace, Mike

Thanks, I will do that. Peace, Mike

Unfortunately, I already tried that when it first stopped working after the update. I just tried it again for good measure - no luck. The exact same lists/materials of mine that I would copy and paste before the update don't retain the formatting as they used to pre-update, for whatever reason. I really appreciate the help though. I'm sure it's a confluence of things that is not making it work. It is frustrating, but maybe it's a sign telling me I post too many lists and stuff anyway. Heh. Peace, Mike

Can we revert back to the old forum then? I kid... I made the assumption that since everything kept properly formatted before the update, that this was something that could be done. If you are able to figure something out, I would be so very grateful. If not, I understand. Thanks, Tele Peace, Mike

Dear admins/mods (@Squadron Leader Tele, @Water Bottle, @Stutterng baumer Denbrough), Can we pretty, pretty, please (ever-so-kindly) re-instate format retention for formatted stuff that is copy and pasted? Whenever I paste any of my info/lists since the update, the formatting (bold, italics, colours, etc) is still lost, which makes it really cumbersome to have to re-do all of the formatting within the post. It makes a big difference. Peace, Mike

Best 4th Weekends for Live Action Comic Book Movies Title (Year) — Fourth Weekend Gross (Drop from Third Weekend) Marvel’s The Avengers (2012) — 36.7 million (-34.1%)* Spider-Man (2002) — 28.5 million (-36.7%)* The Dark Knight (2008) — 26.1 million (-38.8%) Wonder Woman (2017) — 24.9 million (-39.6%) Avengers: Age of Ultron (2015) — 21.7 million (-44.2%)* Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 (2017) — 20.9 million (-39.7%)* Iron Man (2008) — 20.4 million (-35.8%)* Iron Man 3 (2013) — 19.3 million (-46.0%)* The Dark Knight Rises (2012) — 19.0 million (-46.9%) Guardians of the Galaxy (2014) — 17.2 million (-31.5%) Deadpool (2016) — 16.7 million (-46.2%) Iron Man 2 (2010) — 16.5 million (-37.6%)* Captain America: The Winter Soldier (2014) — 16.2 million (-36.6%) Captain America: Civil War (2016) — 15.4 million (-53.3%)* Batman (1989) — 15.1 million (-21.5%) Spider-Man 2 (2004) — 15.0 million (-39.4%) Spider-Man 3 (2007) — 14.3 million (-50.6%)* Doctor Strange (2016) — 13.7 million (-22.7%)** Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017) — 13.5 million (-39.3%) Men in Black (1997) — 12.4 million (-35.1%) Suicide Squad (2016) — 12.2 million (-41.3%) Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014) — 11.9 million (-28.7%)*** 300 (2007) — 11.4 million (-42.4%) Man of Steel (2013) — 11.4 million (-45.0%) Thor: The Dark World (2013) — 11.1 million (-21.9%)** *Memorial Day Weekend **Thanksgiving Weekend (U.S.) ***Labour Day Weekend (Canada/U.S.) Peace, Mike